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wutthe4k
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Extracting DMT - Possible Mistakes
#14205639 - 03/29/11 07:54 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Is it possible for SWIM to make a mistake when extracting DMT and then die or become hospitalized after smoking the product?
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Re: Extracting DMT - Possible Mistakes [Re: wutthe4k]
#14205686 - 03/29/11 08:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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lol.
well, there are flamable ingredients in it, so there is a potential for an explosionn or fire if not careful. There are harmful chemicals that can burn your skin and ruin your furniture if again not used carefully.
And if you don't do the process cleanly and safely you can burn your throat and lungs with an unclean product.
I wouldn't say you can die from it or anything but there certainly are health risks. Some of the ingredients are toxic and carsenogenic.
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Re: Extracting DMT - Possible Mistakes [Re: Dosile Kouki]
#14205771 - 03/29/11 08:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah, I was thinking that. I figured as long as it smelled like "synthetic plastic" and fit the description/picture, that it would be alright. I'm still a little nervous though. I've never done dmt before and I know that when you do it, you appear to other people like you're dead because you don't move and turn white or whatnot. My friends don't want to trip-sit because they're concerned that I'll look like I'm dying and then actually die after they shrugged it off.
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Re: Extracting DMT - Possible Mistakes [Re: Dosile Kouki]
#14205779 - 03/29/11 08:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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There is always a chance....
But MOST of the time... No
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Re: Extracting DMT - Possible Mistakes [Re: wutthe4k]
#14205874 - 03/29/11 08:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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wutthe4k said: Is it possible for SWIM to make a mistake when extracting DMT and then die or become hospitalized after smoking the product?

Properly extracted, the short answer is "NO." I'm assuming you personally produced the product in question. No one is in a better position than you are to determine the quality of the steps and the care taken during the extraction process. Again, properly extracted there should be NO harmful element in your spice whatsoever and therefore absolutely nothing to be concerned over.
If in doubt, vaporize only a minuscule amount as a test.
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Re: Extracting DMT - Possible Mistakes [Re: Nature Boy]
#14206117 - 03/29/11 09:11 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I always had questions about pharmauasca regarding this.
Like when taking an MAOI, wouldn't even trace amounts of the chemicals used for extraction cause some serious damage? The MAOI really dampens your enzymes' abilities to get rid of the bad shit you ingest from what I understand. Or at least it seems to potentiate the effects of things, so wouldn't some excess naphtha or some shit in the DMT really fuck you up when taking it that way??
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Re: Extracting DMT - Possible Mistakes [Re: Shpongle1] 1
#14207869 - 03/30/11 05:07 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Wow...again, NO!
The enzyme pathway in your gut which is suppressed (MAO) by MAOI's is HIGHLY SPECIFIC and has nothing to do with metabolizing, destroying, excreting or absorbing any organic or inorganic chemical (naphtha or NaOH) which might have found its way in microscopic amounts into your DMT. In any event, properly extracted DMT contains NONE of the reagents or solvents unless you are incredibly stupid or sloppy.
Jeez. I can't believe some of these questions. You probably ingest far more contaminants in your every-day life from contact with processed food, pesticide sprayed vegetables, cleaning products, cosmetics, city air, pumping gasoline, driving behind a bus, etcetera than you will in a lifetime of taking properly extracted DMT orally or vaporized once in a while.
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Re: Extracting DMT - Possible Mistakes [Re: Nature Boy]
#14207894 - 03/30/11 05:27 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks for taking the time to respond to such a pathetic question posed by such an ignorant asshole as myself. You always wake up so irritated??
Edit: I appreciate the info but I didn't think it was that retarded of a question. Better safe than sorry in any event.
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Edited by Shpongle1 (03/30/11 05:28 AM)
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Re: Extracting DMT - Possible Mistakes [Re: Shpongle1]
#14210680 - 03/30/11 05:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shpongle1 said: Thanks for taking the time to respond to such a pathetic question posed by such an ignorant asshole as myself. You always wake up so irritated??
Edit: I appreciate the info but I didn't think it was that retarded of a question. Better safe than sorry in any event.
Sorry...but I think it is incumbent on all persons to be fully familiar with the risks, mode of action, dosage, route of administration, and other details regarding their recreational drug(s) of choice. While I do have a certain amount of patience, it is not unlimited. This is BASIC information you could have easily discovered for yourself, and frankly, the answer to your particular question flowed naturally from, and was answered by, the post immediately above it.
So, yeah, in the grand scheme of things it was your laziness and failure to appreciate the fact that your question need not even have been asked that was moderately irritating.
I GREATLY encourage people to be fully informed. But hey, how about a small investment in your own time - do your own homework once in a while instead of taking the easy way out and demanding to be spoon fed.
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Re: Extracting DMT - Possible Mistakes [Re: Nature Boy]
#14210890 - 03/30/11 05:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nature Boy said:
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Shpongle1 said: Thanks for taking the time to respond to such a pathetic question posed by such an ignorant asshole as myself. You always wake up so irritated??
Edit: I appreciate the info but I didn't think it was that retarded of a question. Better safe than sorry in any event.
Sorry...but I think it is incumbent on all persons to be fully familiar with the risks, mode of action, dosage, route of administration, and other details regarding their recreational drug(s) of choice. While I do have a certain amount of patience, it is not unlimited. This is BASIC information you could have easily discovered for yourself, and frankly, the answer to your particular question flowed naturally from, and was answered by, the post immediately above it.
So, yeah, in the grand scheme of things it was your laziness and failure to appreciate the fact that your question need not even have been asked that was moderately irritating.
I GREATLY encourage people to be fully informed. But hey, how about a small investment in your own time - do your own homework once in a while instead of taking the easy way out and demanding to be spoon fed.
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Re: Extracting DMT - Possible Mistakes [Re: wutthe4k]
#14210913 - 03/30/11 05:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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wutthe4k said: My friends don't want to trip-sit because they're concerned that I'll look like I'm dying and then actually die after they shrugged it off.
Your friends are retards.
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Re: Extracting DMT - Possible Mistakes [Re: Nature Boy]
#14211190 - 03/30/11 06:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nature Boy said:
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Shpongle1 said: Thanks for taking the time to respond to such a pathetic question posed by such an ignorant asshole as myself. You always wake up so irritated??
Edit: I appreciate the info but I didn't think it was that retarded of a question. Better safe than sorry in any event.
Sorry...but I think it is incumbent on all persons to be fully familiar with the risks, mode of action, dosage, route of administration, and other details regarding their recreational drug(s) of choice. While I do have a certain amount of patience, it is not unlimited. This is BASIC information you could have easily discovered for yourself, and frankly, the answer to your particular question flowed naturally from, and was answered by, the post immediately above it.
So, yeah, in the grand scheme of things it was your laziness and failure to appreciate the fact that your question need not even have been asked that was moderately irritating.
I GREATLY encourage people to be fully informed. But hey, how about a small investment in your own time - do your own homework once in a while instead of taking the easy way out and demanding to be spoon fed.
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I do know about my drugs of choice hombre. Never fuckin done DMT, it was out of curiosity. You didn't need to even respond if it was going to stress you out so much.
And btw, no, the post above did not answer my question. You responded that properly extracted DMT doesn't have that shit. Obviously. Sometimes shit happens. I've never extracted it, if or when I do, I clearly will not allow this to happen. My question was hypothetical. Chill the fuck out woman. Glad you recognized what seeerious business this is though. Totally understandable getting this worked up about a post you could've easily ignored.
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Re: Extracting DMT - Possible Mistakes [Re: Shpongle1]
#14211373 - 03/30/11 07:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shpongle1 said:
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Nature Boy said:
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Shpongle1 said: Thanks for taking the time to respond to such a pathetic question posed by such an ignorant asshole as myself. You always wake up so irritated??
Edit: I appreciate the info but I didn't think it was that retarded of a question. Better safe than sorry in any event.
Sorry...but I think it is incumbent on all persons to be fully familiar with the risks, mode of action, dosage, route of administration, and other details regarding their recreational drug(s) of choice. While I do have a certain amount of patience, it is not unlimited. This is BASIC information you could have easily discovered for yourself, and frankly, the answer to your particular question flowed naturally from, and was answered by, the post immediately above it.
So, yeah, in the grand scheme of things it was your laziness and failure to appreciate the fact that your question need not even have been asked that was moderately irritating.
I GREATLY encourage people to be fully informed. But hey, how about a small investment in your own time - do your own homework once in a while instead of taking the easy way out and demanding to be spoon fed.
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I do know about my drugs of choice hombre. Never fuckin done DMT, it was out of curiosity. You didn't need to even respond if it was going to stress you out so much.
And btw, no, the post above did not answer my question. You responded that properly extracted DMT doesn't have that shit. Obviously. Sometimes shit happens. I've never extracted it, if or when I do, I clearly will not allow this to happen. My question was hypothetical. Chill the fuck out woman. Glad you recognized what seeerious business this is though. Totally understandable getting this worked up about a post you could've easily ignored.
You getting worked up over his post getting worked up is providing me many s
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Re: Extracting DMT - Possible Mistakes [Re: Shpongle1]
#14211428 - 03/30/11 07:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shpongle1 said: Never fuckin done DMT, it was out of curiosity.
Well, if nothing else, at least I got the N00BSlayer part right. 
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Re: Extracting DMT - Possible Mistakes [Re: Nature Boy]
#14211790 - 03/30/11 08:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nature Boy said:
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Shpongle1 said: Never fuckin done DMT, it was out of curiosity.
Well, if nothing else, at least I got the N00BSlayer part right. 
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You're extra cool cause you've done DMT. Big ups for that accomplishment.
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Edited by Shpongle1 (03/30/11 08:52 PM)
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Re: Extracting DMT - Possible Mistakes [Re: HarryL]
#14212371 - 03/30/11 10:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've never heard this - looking to try it soon. You don't really turn white and look like death, do you?
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Re: Extracting DMT - Possible Mistakes [Re: Vesrah]
#14212608 - 03/30/11 11:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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During my last extraction I accidentally sucked up some NaOH water (I'm using a stubborn 10ml oral syringe). I squirted it back into the quart jar, then sucked up some more naptha and squirted that back into the quart jar as well in an attempt to clean out the syringe. I haven't tested the product yet and it's been bugging me in the back of my mind. Is this an acceptable amount of contamination (however irresponsible that may sound)?
Would it be foolish to assume that because no purple made it into the 1/2 pint jar, no NaOH transferred either?
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Re: Extracting DMT - Possible Mistakes [Re: Psynthetic]
#14212961 - 03/31/11 01:12 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I don't do my own DMT, but you sound find psy^^
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Re: Extracting DMT - Possible Mistakes [Re: Shpongle1]
#14213028 - 03/31/11 01:34 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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shpongle you should show more respect to Nature Boy , he has done great things here at the shroomery and helped alot of people.
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Re: Extracting DMT - Possible Mistakes [Re: Dosile Kouki]
#14213073 - 03/31/11 01:59 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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DosileFlynn said: shpongle you should show more respect to Nature Boy , he has done great things here at the shroomery and helped alot of people.
That doesn't mean someone deserves respect from someone if the second someone is offended by the first someone because first someone came off offensive and second someone was pissed.
Got it?
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Re: Extracting DMT - Possible Mistakes [Re: Joolz]
#14213096 - 03/31/11 02:09 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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one needs to know their place in certain situations, sir.
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Re: Extracting DMT - Possible Mistakes [Re: Dosile Kouki]
#14213167 - 03/31/11 02:54 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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DosileFlynn said: one needs to know their place in certain situations, sir.
I'm a grown ass man, and I'd be damned if I was going to accept bullshit from someone just because they think they have the right and deserve respect. I bet someone number two feels the same way.
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Re: Extracting DMT - Possible Mistakes [Re: Joolz]
#14213177 - 03/31/11 02:56 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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You should take the blue pill, sir.
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Re: Extracting DMT - Possible Mistakes [Re: Dosile Kouki]
#14213820 - 03/31/11 08:51 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I guess a better question here would be what happens to sodium hydroxide and naptha upon ignition?
Naptha is lighter fluid. Anyone who smokes anything with a lighter inhales fumes from combusted naptha, carbon dioxide.
Sodium hydroxide upon ignition breaks down into individual elements. Sodium deposits itself on to whatever surface Hydrogen and oxygen disipate into the air.
These contaminates, if present, are not going to be present in any harmful amounts. You eat more contaminates everyday eating processed food..
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Re: Extracting DMT - Possible Mistakes [Re: Joolz]
#14214219 - 03/31/11 10:52 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Joolz said:
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DosileFlynn said: one needs to know their place in certain situations, sir.
I'm a grown ass man, and I'd be damned if I was going to accept bullshit from someone just because they think they have the right and deserve respect. I bet someone number two feels the same way.
You're both right. I've seen his name before and he stood out as someone who was doing good things and I did/do have respect for what he's done. Just didn't have respect for the childish way he handled a simple, hypothetical question that popped into my head.
Who cares though. This is a message board. If anyone is really getting THAT worked up over this shit that the next day they're still offended they need to really prioritize they're life.
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