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    #14205033 - 03/29/11 05:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

What's the point of having a work ethic? Ever since I was a kid, I've been told that having a work ethic is a good thing, but I can't see why that is true.

What do you think?


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Diploid]
    #14205042 - 03/29/11 05:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

It can be great if applied to improving your lot in life, which it generally does I think.


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: DieCommie]
    #14205096 - 03/29/11 06:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, the hardest working humans: slaves and peasant farmers and coal miners and such, are really riding high.


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14205100 - 03/29/11 06:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Im not sure if I would call that work ethic...

In any case, do you think their lot in life would be the same if they didnt work so hard?


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InvisibleDiploidM
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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Diploid]
    #14205961 - 03/29/11 08:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

As far as I can tell, a work ethic mostly helps the wealthy who own the means of production and get the most benefit from someone who is dedicated to and sacrifices for their work.

It seems like a sheeple mentality. What a great thing for a wealthy business owner to have employees who think it's "good" to work hard. Kinda like a bank teller who gets shot trying to thwart a bank robber who's about to steal what amounts to a profitable insurance company's money.

Makes no sense to me.


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1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Diploid]
    #14206035 - 03/29/11 08:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I admit I dont have good work ethic when it comes to jobs that are less than 10 dollars an hour.

I just cant care enough.


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Diploid]
    #14206094 - 03/29/11 09:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Diploid said:
As far as I can tell, a work ethic mostly helps the wealthy who own the means of production and get the most benefit from someone who is dedicated to and sacrifices for their work.

It seems like a sheeple mentality. What a great thing for a wealthy business owner to have employees who think it's "good" to work hard. Kinda like a bank teller who gets shot trying to thwart a bank robber who's about to steal an what amounts to a profitable insurance company's money.

Makes no sense to me.




Work ethic is what allows lower class people to move up in class, and middle class people to at least stay the same. This is still pretty meaningless imo considering I don't believe in free will.


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Diploid]
    #14207696 - 03/30/11 03:14 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Some of the hardest working people I've known were business owners, doctors, lawyers and scientists.


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Freedom]
    #14207707 - 03/30/11 03:19 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I always thought work ethic was the want and willingness to do a job and do it correctly to the best of your own ability.


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Weltall]
    #14207914 - 03/30/11 05:45 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Weltall said:
I always thought work ethic was the want and willingness to do a job and do it correctly to the best of your own ability.




To me, work ethic is taking the time and effort to "do it right," whatever that may mean in any context.

I don't cut corners on tasks, I hate it when people do. While I might not always get it right, it won't be for lack of trying on my part.

Same feeling applies for a job.

Maybe it's shameful to be a working "sheeple," but I think being bad at your job or not trying are more shameful.

It might be a bit different because I'm an engineer and there is professional pride (and people's lives) at stake, but I'd like to think I'd be just as dedicated if I was a cashier, being friendly and ringing up people's groceries.

EDIT: Showing up on time every day looking nice, too. It says "I give a fuck about what I do here, the money you're paying me isn't wasted"


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Kid_Orgo]
    #14207989 - 03/30/11 06:27 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

my work ethic isnt working :sad:

could any1 suggest a good work ethic ethic?


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Kid_Orgo] * 1
    #14208045 - 03/30/11 06:55 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Showing up on time every day looking nice, too. It says "I give a fuck about what I do here, the money you're paying me isn't wasted"

And the owner of the firm says "Thanks for so completely swallowing your brainwashing that you actually take pride in amplifying my wealth as you get a fair wage no where near what I get". :yesnod:


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1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Diploid]
    #14208436 - 03/30/11 09:19 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Diploid said:
Showing up on time every day looking nice, too. It says "I give a fuck about what I do here, the money you're paying me isn't wasted"

And the owner of the firm says "Thanks for so completely swallowing your brainwashing that you actually take pride in amplifying my wealth as you get a fair wage no where near what I get". :yesnod:




Without the business owner they would be unemployed.


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: 4896744]
    #14208446 - 03/30/11 09:22 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

What does that have to do with the price of tea?


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2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Diploid]
    #14208453 - 03/30/11 09:23 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Being employed is a good thing.  Or, more accurately, having the choice of being employed or not is a good thing.


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: DieCommie]
    #14208476 - 03/30/11 09:35 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yea Work ethic is complete and utter bullshit.  Its just an way for employers to make the employee feel like their not pulling their weight, while in reality they are making not even 1% of what the fat ass spider solitaire playing boss is making by just sitting on his ass.  YES WORK ETHIC IS COMPLETELY IMPORTANT.


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Obey]
    #14208520 - 03/30/11 09:46 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I hate working, & I'm glad I don't have to work. :mexican:

:slaves:


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It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.


Edited by Poid (03/30/11 09:59 AM)


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Poid]
    #14208611 - 03/30/11 10:08 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I remember being shocked when I got my first job at 16, working at a movie theater.  No one had any work ethic, yet I busted ass.  We all got paid the same regardless.

I still bust my ass at any job I get, but it gets me nowhere.  All my bosses like me, I get good references, but it's like I am expending energy I don't absolutely NEED to to expending.  Pulling other peoples weight at a minimum wage job gets you nowhere.

If I could bust my ass in college, everything would be worthwhile.

Oh well...

Work ethic pays off in some ways while in others it's almost a huge waste of time.


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Diploid]
    #14208661 - 03/30/11 10:17 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, I agree. They say don't bite the hand that feeds you, but more often it just seems like an excuse to be alright with being an economic slave.

Money is power in this society and a good many boss' will do their best to abuse that power.


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Re: Work Ethic [Re: Grapefruit]
    #14211275 - 03/30/11 06:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Because I choose to not be a piece of shit human being, and I like my job.


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