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LC with or without GE holes
    #14204152 - 03/29/11 02:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Read the tek on LC with light corn syrup and self healing knock up hole. But it didn't mention anything about a GE hole.
Are the GE holes not necessary for an LC.


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Re: LC with or without GE holes [Re: mabachko]
    #14204161 - 03/29/11 02:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Drill hole and stuff a nice wad of polyfil in.
Just dont tip or shake the LC.


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Re: LC with or without GE holes [Re: esquaredx]
    #14204186 - 03/29/11 02:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

nah.. GE is essential for colonization.. so yeah.. you need one.. just keep the polyfil or tyvek dry..


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Re: LC with or without GE holes [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #14204204 - 03/29/11 03:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i use a bandaid to cover the drill/inoculate hole.  works well.  just replace it then after each time you use the lc.


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Re: LC with or without GE holes [Re: badlydrawnboy]
    #14204232 - 03/29/11 03:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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i use a bandaid to cover the drill/inoculate hole.  works well.  just replace it then after each time you use the lc.




not anywhere near what we are talking about.. hahaha


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Re: LC with or without GE holes [Re: badlydrawnboy]
    #14204255 - 03/29/11 03:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I made a self healing hole with silicone but I wasn't thinking about GE and the Tek didn't mention it so I wasn't sure if I needed one or not using the corn syrup?
Guess I'll add one tomorrow.


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Re: LC with or without GE holes [Re: mabachko]
    #14204289 - 03/29/11 03:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

it doesnt really matter what the medium is.. the mycelium needs to have gas exchange, but it also thrives with a very high PPM ratio of CO2.. a lil 1/4 inch hole should do just fine for you :laugh:


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Re: LC with or without GE holes [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #14204314 - 03/29/11 03:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks


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Re: LC with or without GE holes [Re: mabachko]
    #14204324 - 03/29/11 03:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

dont thank me.. thank Sexy Sax Man


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Re: LC with or without GE holes [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #14204332 - 03/29/11 03:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I hope thats not you BLOWING a Sax, Ha


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Re: LC with or without GE holes [Re: mabachko]
    #14204364 - 03/29/11 03:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Just a little tip for you regarding making GE holes for LC jars.

I use quart jars for my LCs (specifically grain LCs).  I place the self-healing injection port (RTV silicone) on one side of the lid and the tyvek hole on the opposite side of the lid.  This will enable you to suck up your LC with a syringe without making your tyvek (polyfill) wet, which increases risk for contaminants.  All you do is tip the jar down toward the self-healing injection port and it keeps your polyfill/tyvek from getting wet. 

Nothing extra or fancy.  Just a little tip when you make your lids. 

This LC lid design differs from my regular grain quart jars.  I usually put the self-healing injection port in the middle of my grain jars to make spraying the LC evenly over the rye easier. 

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Re: LC with or without GE holes [Re: mabachko]
    #14204367 - 03/29/11 03:30 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I hope thats not you BLOWING a Sax, Ha




I cant believe you have not seen that video
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Re: LC with or without GE holes [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #14204461 - 03/29/11 03:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks M11. I'm using 1/2 pints for this round, & have a hole in the center, But when I grow up to qrts I'll keep that in mind.

Never seen the video.


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Re: LC with or without GE holes [Re: mabachko]
    #14204469 - 03/29/11 03:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i put the link right there.. lol.. click the blue words.. it will take you to youtube.. it is soooooooooooooooooo funny..


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Re: LC with or without GE holes [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #14204509 - 03/29/11 04:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

lol


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Re: LC with or without GE holes [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #14205653 - 03/29/11 07:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Quote:

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i use a bandaid to cover the drill/inoculate hole.  works well.  just replace it then after each time you use the lc.




not anywhere near what we are talking about.. hahaha




instead of using tyvek or polyfill to cover the drilled hole in the lid of the liquid culture, i place a bandaid across the lid, covering the hole(s).  this allows gas exchange and keeps contaminants out.  understand?


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Re: LC with or without GE holes [Re: badlydrawnboy]
    #14205750 - 03/29/11 08:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I understood it the first time badlydrawnboy.


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Re: LC with or without GE holes [Re: mabachko]
    #14205780 - 03/29/11 08:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

but a bandaid isnt exactly a good filter for contams.. it wouldnt completely seal the hole.. unless you were using the circular type bandaids..


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Re: LC with or without GE holes [Re: badlydrawnboy]
    #14205786 - 03/29/11 08:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I have used band-aids successfully as well.  I was told by many it wouldn't work.

:shrug:

I do feel way cooler using tyvek though.  :rolleyes:


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Re: LC with or without GE holes [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #14205801 - 03/29/11 08:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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but a bandaid isnt exactly a good filter for contams.. it wouldnt completely seal the hole.. unless you were using the circular type bandaids..




nah, covers just fine.  :heart:


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Re: LC with or without GE holes [Re: M11]
    #14205805 - 03/29/11 08:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Polyfil is a couple dollars a bag.
There is never a time to use a damn bandaid unless your broke ass poor, and in that case you should stop doing this hobby.
Go get some polyfil.... Done


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Re: LC with or without GE holes [Re: M11]
    #14205808 - 03/29/11 08:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I originally asked the question due to the fact that the Tek used an airport syringe to allow air exchange when knocking up.
After thinking about it, I wasn't sure if the self healing hole would allow for GE.


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Re: LC with or without GE holes [Re: esquaredx]
    #14205816 - 03/29/11 08:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Polyfil is a couple dollars a bag.
There is never a time to use a damn bandaid unless your broke ass poor, and in that case you should stop doing this hobby.
Go get some polyfil.... Done




And tyvek is free if you know where to look (post office -USPS priority envelopes).


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Those mushrooms are fine.  Your friend is a pussy.
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Re: LC with or without GE holes [Re: mabachko]
    #14205822 - 03/29/11 08:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

How would a self healing port allow GE when it "self heals" shut?
Its common sense right there that silicone will prevent GE, and you need a whole new hole with either tyvek or polyfil. :facepalm:

And tyvek sucks.


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Re: LC with or without GE holes [Re: esquaredx]
    #14205839 - 03/29/11 08:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

If you are only using one polyfil hole as both your GE and injection port, how do you keep your LC from running out of that single port when you draw it into a syringe?


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Re: LC with or without GE holes [Re: M11]
    #14205867 - 03/29/11 08:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I never said that.. Put your Silicon port on one side,
and your nice little polyfill on the other.
I just love polyfill :shrug: Easy as hell to work with
and you can use it for a bunch of shit.


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Re: LC with or without GE holes [Re: esquaredx]
    #14205915 - 03/29/11 08:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I never said that.. Put your Silicon port on one side,
and your nice little polyfill on the other.
I just love polyfill :shrug: Easy as hell to work with
and you can use it for a bunch of shit.




Alright.  Gotcha. 

Whatever works works.  I just like my tyvek lids because now since they have been made, all I have to do put them on the jars and tighten the lid ring.  Completely reusable for at least 20 times.  Kinda depends on how thick your silicone injection ports are though.  I made the silicone pretty thick on both sides of the lid. 

Maybe I will give polyfill a try this summer.  I have a big old bag of it I have used for my monos.  It has lasted years.


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Re: LC with or without GE holes [Re: esquaredx]
    #14205937 - 03/29/11 08:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

IDK, maybe presure builds up enough to expand the knock up hole enough for GE.
I not making a statement. I was asking


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Re: LC with or without GE holes [Re: mabachko]
    #14205969 - 03/29/11 08:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:highfive:


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Re: LC with or without GE holes [Re: esquaredx]
    #14206163 - 03/29/11 09:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Fuck.  That would explain why my LCs stalled at about the same stage.


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