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Re: First time at WBS monotubs, tell me how they look [Re: Doc_T]
    #14208775 - 03/30/11 10:42 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Should I be misting at all? or is that when I start fruiting stage?  Also when do I know to start the tub in fruiting conditions?

Thanks again for all the help




You will rarely need to mist during colonization, but you can if needed.
I cover the tub with a bag (not sealed) to prevent drying.

During fruiting, you spray rather than mist. Don't be a pussy, spray the block down good- then let it evaporate.
Let it get a bit dry, then re-wet it to capacity about once a day or so, as needed.




So if you are using wax paper as a casing, you remove it, spray the substrate surface, then replace it?  How would the substrate surface effectively "dry" if you are using a wax paper casing?


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Of course, then there's the problem of eating vermiculite. On the bright side, it makes your poop and teeth glitter.  Just pretend it's christmas.
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Those mushrooms are fine.  Your friend is a pussy.
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Re: First time at WBS monotubs, tell me how they look [Re: M11]
    #14208968 - 03/30/11 11:19 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

you dont need to mist with the wax paper, and you replace the wax paper every couple of days, and remove once pinset comes in.


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Re: First time at WBS monotubs, tell me how they look [Re: biologys]
    #14209532 - 03/30/11 01:15 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I have heard of people using it through fruit development.  I only use mine until the pin set comes in.


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Of course, then there's the problem of eating vermiculite. On the bright side, it makes your poop and teeth glitter.  Just pretend it's christmas.
-RR

Those mushrooms are fine.  Your friend is a pussy.
-RR

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Re: First time at WBS monotubs, tell me how they look [Re: M11]
    #14224472 - 04/02/11 01:13 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

UPDATE!!!

there is dew all over the surface of the substrate "block" and little knots are forming, here are some new pics, I am a litttle concerned about this yellowing forming in different areas of the tub.  They are mainly around the edges.  Anything to worry about?  If not I just got my lighting wired up and I can put the tub in fruiting conditions at any given moment.  Just still wondering about this coloration on the substrate.  Here are the pics



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Re: First time at WBS monotubs, tell me how they look [Re: fungalEntropy]
    #14224484 - 04/02/11 01:17 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

myc secretes metabolites to break down the substrate so it can consume it, no worries fruit that thing..


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Re: First time at WBS monotubs, tell me how they look [Re: biologys]
    #14224504 - 04/02/11 01:22 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

So your 100% on those are metabolites in the pics and I should put that baby under this 6500k 15 watt CFL bulb right now?!?!  Say the word and she's underway


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Re: First time at WBS monotubs, tell me how they look [Re: fungalEntropy]
    #14224512 - 04/02/11 01:24 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yep, definately metabolites..and ready to be fruited.. give it light and FAE


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Re: First time at WBS monotubs, tell me how they look [Re: biologys]
    #14224526 - 04/02/11 01:28 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Awesome, thanks for the help still new at this and first time doing tubs so I'm excited will keep updated as the weeks go by :laugh:  Shout outs to everyone that helped


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Re: First time at WBS monotubs, tell me how they look [Re: biologys]
    #14224796 - 04/02/11 04:18 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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myc secretes metabolites to break down the substrate so it can consume it, no worries fruit that thing..



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Re: First time at WBS monotubs, tell me how they look [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #14295019 - 04/15/11 11:04 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

UPDATE: TRICH!?!?!

Here are some recent pics just taken a couple of minutes ago.  I look in the tub today and there are green fuzzy spots on the substrate....  I just don't know how the tub goes from being fully colonized (built up immunity from contams) then just BAM trich?  It's been in fruiting conditions for about a week now tell me your opinions here are some pics



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Re: First time at WBS monotubs, tell me how they look [Re: fungalEntropy]
    #14295112 - 04/15/11 11:26 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

*Bump!*

I need to know if this tub needs to go! asap I don't know if it's trich but if it is I don't want to hangin out in my house.


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Re: First time at WBS monotubs, tell me how they look [Re: fungalEntropy]
    #14295520 - 04/15/11 12:59 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

That spot looks suspicious, but I would hang on to it a little longer.  Keep an eye on it.  If any signs of green show -toss immediately.


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Of course, then there's the problem of eating vermiculite. On the bright side, it makes your poop and teeth glitter.  Just pretend it's christmas.
-RR

Those mushrooms are fine.  Your friend is a pussy.
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Re: First time at WBS monotubs, tell me how they look [Re: M11]
    #14300096 - 04/16/11 09:06 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Looks like bruising to me, keep on truckin'.


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Re: First time at WBS monotubs, tell me how they look [Re: afrosheen]
    #14300137 - 04/16/11 09:21 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

u shure that looks like bruising?  I know psicocybes can bruise green as I had them do it before but why would it be bruising.  I don't think I touched it much but one time one of those stupid asian beetles found it's way into my box and it was a struggle to get it out, can the substrate bruise from lack of water or something.  I got it under 12/12 light cycle and it was fully colonized before I fruited it.  Which is why I am confused to see these unhealthy looking spots on my sub.  How will I know for sure if it's trich?  Is there any smell associated with it and what does it look like exactly?  What do you think I should do?


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Re: First time at WBS monotubs, tell me how they look [Re: fungalEntropy]
    #14300205 - 04/16/11 09:48 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Doesn't look like a trich pattern at all. What you're seeing is subsurface bruising caused by drying or misting.

It's common to have a nice, fluffy upper layer of aerial mycelium poking up over the entire surface, then you mist a few times, it dries a few times, and becomes this strange layer that looks like a latex coating. That's what I'm seeing here. As that coating forms and collapses, there may be ridges of aerial mycelium getting squashed underneath it, which will bruise. It's natural and nothing to worry about.

Trust me, if you were to see trich forming, it'd be super white puffs first (separate or joined) that grew too fast. Trich "sticks together" generally and will show up in an isolated area to begin with. As it matures it'll turn dark green during the spore production phase. It will also be on the outside of the substrate, not hidden under the skin.


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Re: First time at WBS monotubs, tell me how they look [Re: afrosheen]
    #14300644 - 04/16/11 12:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

For sure man, I do hope it is just bruising, as the day progresses the green spots are spreading.  About that latexy surface yeah it turned that way after I sprayed it for the first time that's normal though that's good.  Yah man I've never seen this green shit before, except when I picked em before so that's why I'm trippin on this.  I'll post another couple pics tomorrow and hopefully we're still golden.  When should pins start showin up?  This puppies been in fruiting mode for over a week now.


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Re: First time at WBS monotubs, tell me how they look [Re: fungalEntropy]
    #14300898 - 04/16/11 01:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

spreading of green spots usually isnt good but good luck.  stay golden mushyboy


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Re: First time at WBS monotubs, tell me how they look [Re: drosmoka]
    #14300972 - 04/16/11 01:25 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

i always wondered why it turned to that 'latexy surface'.
thanks for clearing that up!


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Re: First time at WBS monotubs, tell me how they look [Re: Fungal growth]
    #14301317 - 04/16/11 02:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yo you guys say trich is dark green and starts as white puff balls in one specific area then expands from that starting point?  I googled images of trichoderma mold and it does look very dark green.  The green in my tub is a lighter green and they appeared at different spots on the substrate not a specific area.  There was also no white puff balls before the green showed up.  Again, I'll take some more pics tomorrow and see what everyone thinks.


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Re: First time at WBS monotubs, tell me how they look [Re: fungalEntropy]
    #14301483 - 04/16/11 02:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

ime the trichy dichy starts on un- or weakly colonized
areas. i don't recall ever seeing it start on healthy myc
and grow out from there.
trich is like a white scab, that usually turns green in
the center within 24 hrs.


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