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NikoK
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The Biological Function of Endogenous Penis
#14199031 - 03/28/11 05:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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10 characters
Seriously.
Edited by NikoK (05/04/12 09:12 AM)
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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: NikoK]
#14199144 - 03/28/11 06:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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This was written after an experience both my girlfriend Margaret Falvo and I, Niko 3.33g of mushrooms, with the realization that Terrence had sent me his message to share with the rest of the world
Yeah man, drugs are intense. But they're drugs, most people take them so they can believe some wacked out shit for a few hours. Once sober though, one should check them self...
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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: Tropism]
#14199161 - 03/28/11 06:06 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Our society has labelled these entheogenic plants as drugs. Though I never use psychedelics in a recreational manner. Always asking for growth and knowledge.
You seeing mushrooms as a drug denotes you probably don't have the mental cognizance to derive importance from this thesis.
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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: NikoK]
#14199188 - 03/28/11 06:11 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I don't know why you keep repeating your address but I live like 5 minutes from you lol. I'll have to finish reading your theory tomorrow because my eyes are itching for sleep right now. I actually know a guy named Niko but last time I checked he lived off the far side of lakeport road.
REALLY weird here though and I kid you not I just remembered a dream where I ran into Niko and he lived on St. Paul street.. The dream got pretty bizarre after that and didn't really revolve around him though but that's REALLY weird man. I'll check back in tomorrow.
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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: Midnight_Toker]
#14199208 - 03/28/11 06:15 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Definitely the same Niko that is amazingly weird. I moved onto St Paul St almost two months ago..
Let the thought process continue its exponential growth...
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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: NikoK]
#14199219 - 03/28/11 06:16 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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What was the name of the school/program you went to on Queenston street a few years back?
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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: Midnight_Toker]
#14199232 - 03/28/11 06:18 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Whats up John I know your mustang anywhere
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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: NikoK]
#14199236 - 03/28/11 06:19 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Lmfao that's so awesome dude I'm gonna PM you my msn!
Edit: OK you aren't accepting PMs so I'll finish reading your theory and catch up with you tomorrow. Have a good one dude.
Edited by Midnight_Toker (03/28/11 06:29 PM)
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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: NikoK]
#14199291 - 03/28/11 06:31 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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NikoK said: Our society has labelled these entheogenic plants as drugs. Though I never use psychedelics in a recreational manner. Always asking for growth and knowledge.
You seeing mushrooms as a drug denotes you probably don't have the mental cognizance to derive importance from this thesis.

Entheogenic plants are drugs because that is the category they logically fall under. They certainly aren't useful for sustenance if you try and eat them as food...
When googling what defines a drug, one of the first three responses is...
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A drug, broadly speaking, is any substance that, when absorbed into the body of a living organism, alters normal bodily function.
Have you heard of Google? It's the shit.
I don't think your post is suited to this forum. Try this one.
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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: NikoK]
#14199304 - 03/28/11 06:35 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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NikoK said: Our society has labelled these entheogenic plants as drugs. Though I never use psychedelics in a recreational manner. Always asking for growth and knowledge.
You seeing mushrooms as a drug denotes you probably don't have the mental cognizance to derive importance from this thesis.
okay, so what special top-secret definition of "drug" are you using? When you're changing words arbitraril for emotional appeal, its always helpful to clue others in before proceding to use them in conversation, as.... there's no communication if we don't know what you're saying.
By definition psychadelic mushrooms surely are drugs. I fail to see whether you attribute their utility to recreation or spiritual insight, growth, has to do with anything. (since when do drugs not allow insight, growth?)
I'm not too familiar with it, so maybe I'm missing something, but McKenna and the stoned ape stuff always seemed a bit pointless to me. Just nice stories. You can imagine any sort of vanciful backstory to the world's phenomena, but I fail to see the utility of choosing a complicated convuluted one. There's a reason physicists define F=ma rather than F=ma+1 -1, and its because there's no point adding layers of complexity. Neither of those equations has any particular fidelity at representing the "way things really are"- they're simply useful relationships regardless of what actually goes onto make the universe tick the way it does.
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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: johnm214]
#14199700 - 03/28/11 07:41 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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His claim is that since they are plants, they are somehow not drugs... when in fact they are plants which contain CNS active alkaloids (AKA drugs)
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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
#14199741 - 03/28/11 07:46 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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ugh, if that's true, that's just a ridiculous argument.
Seeems it is emotionally unappealing to him to have to consider whatever connotation he attaches to the word "drugs" in concert with psilocybin-containing mushrooms, so he redefines the terms to avoid confronting his emotions. What rubbish- Hiding from yourself 101- If I put this blindfold on does the world disapear? 
If your going to make up words to make yourself feel better, at least choose one that doesn't allready mean something so you don't confuse others into thinking you might actually have an idea to convey.
In other words, I've now decided I am asdflakjb, which I've decided means "best person ever, all time, forever and ever". This will help me feel better about myself
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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: johnm214]
#14200131 - 03/28/11 08:39 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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When we compare this to the 12 pitch format of the chromatic scale and how it's tone rows are determined.
The 12 tones are arbitrary and this pretty much applies to Western music, and for that matter, relatively recent western music. There is nothing inherent about them that makes them special. I have found a few other issues in your so-called theory that don't make any sense so if I were you I'd consider addressing that.
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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: NikoK]
#14498627 - 05/23/11 11:44 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well I've taken a lot of opinions and advice from several biologists and PhDs about the nature of the article and an approach to take.
http://boards.420chan.org/psy/res/444042.php
Within the thread there is a marine biologist who states he personally loves the thesis and there are others who agree as well. I think we need to take a more subjective approach to this.
It's currently under review by UNESCO, and it seems to give a great basis as to DMT's true biological function.
Thesis: http://www.chemistry2011.org/participate/ideas/show?id=289
Event: http://www.chemistry2011.org/participate/activities/show?id=1162
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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: NikoK]
#14499180 - 05/23/11 01:50 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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NikoK said: Our society has labelled these entheogenic plants as drugs. Though I never use psychedelics in a recreational manner. Always asking for growth and knowledge.
You seeing mushrooms as a drug denotes you probably don't have the mental cognizance to derive importance from this thesis.
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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: learningtofly]
#14499435 - 05/23/11 02:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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learningtofly said:
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When we compare this to the 12 pitch format of the chromatic scale and how it's tone rows are determined.
The 12 tones are arbitrary and this pretty much applies to Western music, and for that matter, relatively recent western music. There is nothing inherent about them that makes them special. I have found a few other issues in your so-called theory that don't make any sense so if I were you I'd consider addressing that.
I think the greeks were onto something though when they created 'western music theory'. For instance, anthropologists have discovered that children all over the world, regardless if their region/country that they are from incorporates western music theory or not, all children seem to hum the notes in the pentatonic scale at a very young age.
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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: NikoK]
#14499632 - 05/23/11 03:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I see you have been working on your theory quite a bit man, it's pretty compelling and more solid than when you first posted it, but I'll have to read it a couple times more to make sense of the math. You need to break it down in laymen's [moreso than you've already tried to] for people like me.
You'd sure be fun to trip with though, lol. I keep hearing about you through other people, that's probably not a good thing though.. Anyway PM me any time man, I'll smoke you a J!
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Re: The Biological Function of Endogenous N,N-Dimethyltryptamine [Re: NikoK]
#14501344 - 05/23/11 09:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I don't want to rain on your parade dude, but this looks like a bunch of dog whistle nonsense. It does not follow or come together at all. Pineal gland subconscious? Where did you get that from, Descartes? It sounds like you have been reading too much McKenna.
If need something to believe in, try looking around you.
But this shit you've written here, is pure obscurity.
A person can get themselves lost in this kind of crap.
Edited by xFrockx (05/23/11 09:23 PM)
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Re: The Biological Function of Endogenous N,N-Dimethyltryptamine [Re: xFrockx]
#14501784 - 05/23/11 10:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Amazing Insight Into the Stoned Ape Theory [Re: andrewss]
#14501789 - 05/23/11 10:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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andrewss said:
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NikoK said: Our society has labelled these entheogenic plants as drugs. Though I never use psychedelics in a recreational manner. Always asking for growth and knowledge.
You seeing mushrooms as a drug denotes you probably don't have the mental cognizance to derive importance from this thesis.

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