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OfflineAldous
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Missile on Baghdad market was American, hard evidence shows
    #1419816 - 03/31/03 02:20 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

This is from prof. Glen Rangwala from Cambridge, driving force behind CASI, who discovered the Blair report about the Iraki threat was just a copy/paste from a student's research paper. In this piece, he gives hard evidence that the missile fired on March 27 at the Shu'ala marketplace in Baghdad was a Tomahawk missile, despite Rumsfeld's denials.

"It seems that the US and UK government are still claiming that the 28 March bombing of Shu'ala marketplace, which is being reported as having killed 62 people, could have been the result of malfunctioning Iraqi air defence equipment. (see, eg, Donald Rumsfeld's interview yesterday).

Shards from the fuselage of the missile were recovered by a local resident, and have been found contain a code number, MFR 96214 09. This was reported by Robert Fisk, "In Baghdad, blood and bandages for the innocent", 30 March 2003:

"The missile was guided by computers and that vital shard of fuselage was computer-coded. It can be easily verified and checked by the Americans - if they choose to do so. It reads: 30003-704ASB 7492. The letter "B" is scratched and could be an "H". This is believed to be the serial number. It is followed by a further code which arms manufacturers usually refer to as the weapon's "Lot" number. It reads: MFR 96214 09."

An analysis has been sent to me that points out to me that "MFR" is code in defence contracts for "manufacturer". 96214 is a manufacturer identification number, a so-called "Cage Code".
Cage codes can be checked on the site: http://www.gidm.dlis.dla.mil/bincs/begin_search.asp
96214 is the cage code for Raytheon Company, a Texas-based military supplier that manufactures parts for Tomahawk missiles.

See for example their press release of 27 March 2003, "Raytheon Tactical Tomahawk Penetrator Variant Successfully Completes Inaugural Test Flight".

There seem to be 4 possibilities:

- that the shard did not come from the missile that hit Shu'ala marketplace.
- that Robert Fisk is having us on.
- that the Iraqis successfully smuggled a missile in from Texas which they then fired at the Baghdad market.
- that the missile that hit Shu'ala market place was made in Texas and fired by US forces.

I hope this helps clarify the relevant likelihoods."


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Re: Missile on Baghdad market was American, hard evidence shows [Re: Aldous]
    #1419858 - 03/31/03 02:45 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Didn't ever have a doubt.... :smirk:

63 more iraqis "liberated", couple million more to go! :tongue:


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Re: Missile on Baghdad market was American, hard evidence shows [Re: Aldous]
    #1419881 - 03/31/03 03:03 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

What the fuck are you doing, Aldous? You're actually posting hard, irrefutable evidence! Detailed, specific, evidence! What the hell has gotten into you? Don't you know that we don't do that around here? We prefer to cite plagiarized graduate student papers and the sociopathic ravings of FoxNews. And when people challenge us we call them big stupid poopyhead liberals and then run away.


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Re: Missile on Baghdad market was American, hard evidence shows [Re: EchoVortex]
    #1419892 - 03/31/03 03:13 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah! :mad:
...read the forum rules...


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Re: Missile on Baghdad market was American, hard evidence shows [Re: Aldous]
    #1420217 - 03/31/03 07:22 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I have no clue as to whether it was a US missle or not. If this info (markings) can be found by one, it can be found by many.

Now, I wouldn't be surprised if it is a US missle, but hey, it's war and shit happens.


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Re: Missile on Baghdad market was American, hard evidence shows [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1420448 - 03/31/03 09:57 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Shit happens huh?


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Re: Missile on Baghdad market was American, hard evidence shows [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1420708 - 04/01/03 01:03 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

shit happens

Yeah, look at you


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Re: Missile on Baghdad market was American, hard evidence shows [Re: EchoVortex]
    #1420782 - 04/01/03 01:54 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Look at YOU


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Re: Missile on Baghdad market was American, hard evidence shows [Re: friartuck]
    #1420849 - 04/01/03 02:35 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Dude(y), do you like to be beligerant for the sake of being bligerant? Look at who Echo was responding to.


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Re: Missile on Baghdad market was American, hard evidence shows [Re: EchoVortex]
    #1421007 - 04/01/03 04:41 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Golly! What a witty and cutting response.

How could I not have seen the error of my ways before this?

*snort*


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Re: Missile on Baghdad market was American, hard evidence shows [Re: Skikid16]
    #1421111 - 04/01/03 07:05 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

it's doobie, he hasn't made an intelligent post since he's been here. Hell even Alex makes more sense, if that's possible.


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Re: Missile on Baghdad market was American, hard evidence shows [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1421452 - 04/01/03 01:15 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

makes sense!! I was wondering this whole time "why would Iraq fire a missle from the Persian Gulf, OVER Kuwait, into their own country? and what ship would it have been fired from? and why hit Kuwait instead of an American ship?" this makes alot more sense. especially since there was no warning siren, because it came in so low, like cruise missles do. It still could have been British tho , no?


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