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You people take yourselves way too seriously.
#14197380 - 03/28/11 11:39 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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All your problems are petty and unimportant.
I'm depressed. I have anxiety. Oh my girlfriend this, my boyfriend that, oh, am I gay? oh, am I a skitzo?
Why do you need to have all these categories for yourself? I think it is mostly because of overinflated self importance.
Do you like to cling to the things that make you special? The real unique YOU?
You are nothing.
You are not a big deal. Nothing you care about is a big deal.
You are gonna come and go quicker than a fart. Stop watching so many commercials, and realize that your problems don't matter.
I would think this would be somewhat understood in a psychedelic community.
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Re: You people take yourselves way too seriously. [Re: domite]
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domite said: All your problems are petty and unimportant.
I'm depressed. I have anxiety. Oh my girlfriend this, my boyfriend that, oh, am I gay? oh, am I a skitzo?
Why do you need to have all these categories for yourself? I think it is mostly because of overinflated self importance.
Do you like to cling to the things that make you special? The real unique YOU?
You are nothing.
You are not a big deal. Nothing you care about is a big deal.
You are gonna come and go quicker than a fart. Stop watching so many commercials, and realize that your problems don't matter.
I would think this would be somewhat understood in a psychedelic community.
I understand this concept but it does not change anything. I want to let go and I know I need to but knowing that doesnt change anything.
Tell me how to let go and I will try. I wish I could.
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Re: You people take yourselves way too seriously. [Re: domite] 2
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so what's the cure for over inflated self importance?
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Go away if it doesn't matter, or are you here to save us?
Peoples problems are unimportant, they should just get over themselves? Let's see an example: let's say a guy borders on clinical retardation but holds himself in high regard...that guy would go into the world thinking he is the shit, being smug, telling people how they should live their lives and what they should do because he can't grasp the concept that not everybody is the same as him and not everybody has the same life experience, he would over-simplify concepts he couldn't understand. Now this guy would in no way be capable of reaching the goals he sets for himself in life because he is both dumb as a brick and over appreciates his abilities. Now wouldn't it be better in the long term if this guy began talking about how retarded he is instead of letting other people see it? If he is able to see it than he might be able to do something about it, like educate himself some and lower his ambitions instead of wandering aimlessly trough life from disappointment to disappointment. It's the same really with people with anxiety/depression/and whatever, the only thing though is that being a moron of galactic proportions hardly leaves room for empathy or insight for that matter, also it's incurable which is kinda good for global amusement.
See what I did there?
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Re: You people take yourselves way too seriously. [Re: 13.step]
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nihilism , isn't it great to wallow in it
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Re: You people take yourselves way too seriously. [Re: Beanhead]
#14197871 - 03/28/11 01:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm trying to be helpful.
And it's not nihilism, it's perspective. But i guess you are saying it can't be taught? I really think anything can be. I think when you can see all of that and smile at it, you wont be caught up in yourself.
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Re: You people take yourselves way too seriously. [Re: domite]
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Re: You people take yourselves way too seriously. [Re: domite]
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domite said: I'm trying to be helpful.
And it's not nihilism, it's perspective. But i guess you are saying it can't be taught? I really think anything can be. I think when you can see all of that and smile at it, you wont be caught up in yourself.
you've got it all figured out don't you?
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Re: You people take yourselves way too seriously. [Re: domite]
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You sound like...

and that's not a good thing.
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Does he sound like a broken picture or is it just my browser?
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Re: You people take yourselves way too seriously. [Re: 13.step]
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So you can't suggest that people's problems come from having to much self importance without being seen as a self important D-bag?
I think the idea behind the message is muddled if you present it with kid gloves. "you are nothing" is not meant as an insult, despite what we are taught.
Also It's not about a "cure" to a way of thinking, its about the scale that you place things on. If you really do understand the scale of your life in respect to the scale of the universe, and your emotional responses don't match up to that, you really should be able to pinpoint where that disconnect is happening.
If there is a cure, I would say it would be to apply with brutal honesty the sense of scale that Mushrooms make so clear across the enirety of your life, with constant vigilance. Obviously a humbling process.
Thats why I chose to present my message in such a way. I don't think me spelling out my idea here will really grab people's attention, or help them change. This entire endevor needs to be initiated emotionally, I was trying to get my hooks in that.
The thing with the internet is that peoples first assumption is that others are here to gratify the ego first and foremost. Next time, more smilies
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Re: You people take yourselves way too seriously. [Re: domite]
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Actually it is a good concept you have there. Except,you are teaching it the wrong way. Actually you are not teaching anything at all,you are just presenting things from the perspective of one guy who has detached himself from it`s ego.And you are doing that in a really disturbing way. What you say is true my friend,yet it is something that cannot be thaught. Knowledge absorbed in one`s mind is sucked up by the ego. True wisdom comes from inside. True wisdom happens in the conciousness. You can`t just let go.Say abracadabra my ego is gone. It is actually a tricky thing to do.
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Re: You people take yourselves way too seriously. [Re: Damkina]
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I think you are right actually, most depressed people would be better off with a slap in the face rather than a hug better. Not that you can actually tell someone that because everyone wants to follow the latest thing that's gonna make them feel worthy and important and make all their dreams come true. Most psychotherapy, spirituality and religious thinking is actually based on this which is a horrible trick coming from commercialization, they earn more money (give donations, or remember tithes?) by giving people what they want to hear (heaven, enlightenment, the power to attract all the women, happiness, chakra cleansing, blablablabla), Of course it's all bullshit bullshit bullshit and will do nothing to snap you out of you depressed day dream.
Most of the time depression is based on three things vanity, hope and fervent belief. All of which are consistently undermined by reality. It's not until I found ideas not built around placation and promise of future peace that I actually managed to grow up a little and snap myself out of these three things (at least to some extent). Of course it's a message most don't want to hear and that's kinda the point. Fact is if you want to snap yourself out of it you have to let go of your dreams and take a u-turn to face reality.
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Re: You people take yourselves way too seriously. [Re: Grapefruit] 1
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I would tell you that you that you probably have a handful of neurons left all of them loosely interconnected, but I don't know you so I can't know for sure. If you don't know somebody with a mental illness and haven't suffered trough one then please SHUT THE FUCK UP, or alternately, if that isn't an option for you, go fuck yourself in a sustained manner.
Mental illness isn't a public matter, it's private and if you're not involved shut it. And don't think that just because you where sad when your fucking kitty/parrot/dog or even a loved one died you know what depression is cause you don't, go tell someone with a knife to his throat to snap out of it, see how that plays out. Give us the word depression back...stop using it every time a fart comes out the wrong way...fucking normal people these days...
Ok...got hate out...that should keep me happy for a while...it's pretty infuriating though, it's hard as it is to suffer from a mental illness with all the stigma surrounding it, nevermind the actual suffering part, to add insult to injury everyone thinks because they have a brain and use it they know what's up. Go harass diabetics already and give us a break, tell them to man up their god damned lazy pancreases and to not go all hyperglycemic every time they have sweets, most of us are fine when we eat sugar, they're just pussies right? And what's up with all the foot business, my foot don't rot off...
Let heated argument start...
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Re: You people take yourselves way too seriously. [Re: Anonymous #1]
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Re: You people take yourselves way too seriously. [Re: domite]
#14204683 - 03/29/11 04:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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domite said: All your problems are petty and unimportant.
I'm depressed. I have anxiety. Oh my girlfriend this, my boyfriend that, oh, am I gay? oh, am I a skitzo?
Why do you need to have all these categories for yourself? I think it is mostly because of overinflated self importance.
Do you like to cling to the things that make you special? The real unique YOU?
You are nothing.
You are not a big deal. Nothing you care about is a big deal.
You are gonna come and go quicker than a fart. Stop watching so many commercials, and realize that your problems don't matter.
I would think this would be somewhat understood in a psychedelic community.
So if you realize this, why not grab the gun?
Obviously you think there is something to live for, or else you would of just killed yourself. Nothing matters right? Or maybe everything matters?
Life is serious business brah
PS. I like how you talk about our problems when the real issue is you. You say "all of your problems are petty and unimportant" well, thats to YOU, I actually care about my problems, so maybe you're the one who doesn't matter, because you don't care.
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Re: You people take yourselves way too seriously. [Re: 13.step]
#14204735 - 03/29/11 04:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I agree I am not talking about serious mental illness. I meant the vast majority.
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Re: You people take yourselves way too seriously. [Re: Grapefruit]
#14204755 - 03/29/11 05:01 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Perhaps the problem is too much sand in the vagina?
The whole culture sanctifies this "i'm a piece of shit the whole world revolves around" mentality and we all eat it up.
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Re: You people take yourselves way too seriously. [Re: domite]
#14204766 - 03/29/11 05:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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You make a compelling argument chap.
Oh wait, no you don't. Infact, you probably have much sand in your vagina.
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Re: You people take yourselves way too seriously. [Re: Uzziel]
#14206244 - 03/29/11 09:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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i get what the OP is saying except i would say it's not taking yourself seriously, but it's taking life too seriously. instead of getting so worked up over your problems realize that life is short and in the grand scheme of things your problems don't matter, so why let it get in the way of enjoying yourself.
i of all people know it's easier said than done though.
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Re: You people take yourselves way too seriously. [Re: bigmike7104]
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Infact, you probably have much sand in your vagina.

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Re: You people take yourselves way too seriously. [Re: FishOilTheKid]
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Re: You people take yourselves way too seriously. [Re: domite]
#14209118 - 03/30/11 11:45 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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domite said: All your problems are petty and unimportant.
I'm depressed. I have anxiety. Oh my girlfriend this, my boyfriend that, oh, am I gay? oh, am I a skitzo?
Why do you need to have all these categories for yourself? I think it is mostly because of overinflated self importance.
Do you like to cling to the things that make you special? The real unique YOU?
You are nothing.
You are not a big deal. Nothing you care about is a big deal.
You are gonna come and go quicker than a fart. Stop watching so many commercials, and realize that your problems don't matter.
I would think this would be somewhat understood in a psychedelic community.
i think a lot of people would be better off if they stopped trying to compare themselves to other people by putting themselves into categories/labels/etc., like you said. you are you, nothing else, nothing more, now just figure out what that means in the grand scheme and you can get on with your life.
another problem i see is that people are constantly looking for something other than themselves to solve their problems. sure advice, drugs, lovers, etc. can help you, but they wont make you happy.
its hard to get these things across without sounding like an elitist, as this thread shows.
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Re: You people take yourselves way too seriously. [Re: Grapefruit]
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Oh, ok, sorry if I was an ass and insulted you, I agree about that to some extent... there is a line where problems stop being just problems and cross over into mental illnesses and disorders, all major mental illnesses and i think all disorders have a biological background, so it just doesn't work to think it away...if you're healthy then yeah, you could potentially try to get over your problems with your own will-power.
OP is still a tard though, i don't think you're taking yourself to seriously if you are complaining about schizophrenia, or severe anxiety for that matter...what? relax and let the voices do their thing?
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Re: You people take yourselves way too seriously. [Re: 13.step]
#14210491 - 03/30/11 04:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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this thread is balls
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Re: You people take yourselves way too seriously. [Re: 13.step]
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Yeah, exactly. Obviously you saw yourself in what I said from the start.
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Re: You people take yourselves way too seriously. [Re: bigmike7104]
#14212469 - 03/30/11 10:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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bigmike7104 said: i get what the OP is saying except i would say it's not taking yourself seriously, but it's taking life too seriously. instead of getting so worked up over your problems realize that life is short and in the grand scheme of things your problems don't matter, so why let it get in the way of enjoying yourself.
i of all people know it's easier said than done though.
this... I agree OP. Honestly I have nearly no stress in my life, am never angry, and would generally describe my mood as "content". It's not because I don't have problems, or challenges in my life, it's because of the way I look at my situation. Is it worth getting angry, or being stressed due to things in life you have no control over?
"All your problems are petty and unimportant" <-- This is simply untrue. There are many "important" things/problems we all face in our lives. The way we react and deal with them is the problem...ahh if only people could relax.
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Re: You people take yourselves way too seriously. [Re: Anthony917]
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stress is a waste of time. be happy that your breathing right now or that your not an amputee. or even live in certin areas of the world where you'd get ass raped or killed. who cares about stupid shit. that dumb shit will be time taking up out of your life that you will never get back. i know shit sucks sometimes but all you can do is smile smile smile
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Re: You people take yourselves way too seriously. [Re: domite]
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Probably, yeah, I talk a lot about my disorder, but I think you'll find I never made a thread about it and I never complain, I take it as it is and go from there. When someone comes and tells me to just get over it and not take myself to seriously my blood boils.
You probably don't understand what being ill means...and that's ok but don't have a dumb opinion about something you can't grasp.
Sorry, I'll probably need to loose my ego and all will be fine...
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Re: You people take yourselves way too seriously. [Re: 13.step]
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domite said: So you can't suggest that people's problems come from having to much self importance without being seen as a self important D-bag?
I think the idea behind the message is muddled if you present it with kid gloves. "you are nothing" is not meant as an insult, despite what we are taught.
Also It's not about a "cure" to a way of thinking, its about the scale that you place things on. If you really do understand the scale of your life in respect to the scale of the universe, and your emotional responses don't match up to that, you really should be able to pinpoint where that disconnect is happening.
If there is a cure, I would say it would be to apply with brutal honesty the sense of scale that Mushrooms make so clear across the enirety of your life, with constant vigilance. Obviously a humbling process.
Thats why I chose to present my message in such a way. I don't think me spelling out my idea here will really grab people's attention, or help them change. This entire endevor needs to be initiated emotionally, I was trying to get my hooks in that.
The thing with the internet is that peoples first assumption is that others are here to gratify the ego first and foremost. Next time, more smilies 
Ah I look and think about my problems as they are superficial and in the grand scheme of things what does it matter?
I think it's a coping mechanism.
Besides i'll never be happy before I can improve the world around me or try to solve it's problems... So really how can you be happy with all the rape, murder, politricks, imbecile education, hunger, diseases and ignorance that is EVERYWHERE... OP to me it seems like you've never had problems and can't really understand what other people are going trough. Yes, in the end it's all superficial but if you have little emotional intelligence you could probably relate or understand.
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Re: You people take yourselves way too seriously. [Re: domite]
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I would think this would be somewhat understood in a psychedelic community.
What, general apathy concerning the mysterious nature of the miraculous?
Some come away from the psychedelic experience with a sense of urgency do to the issues that you outlined not a sense of, 'oh, nothing matters.'
Although in my experience it seems to be one of two ways with the 'psychedelic community.'
We are nothing. Or... We are everything.
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Re: You people take yourselves way too seriously. [Re: Beanhead]
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Beanhead said: Besides i'll never be happy before I can improve the world around me or try to solve it's problems... So really how can you be happy with all the rape, murder, politricks, imbecile education, hunger, diseases and ignorance that is EVERYWHERE... OP to me it seems like you've never had problems and can't really understand what other people are going trough. Yes, in the end it's all superficial but if you have little emotional intelligence you could probably relate or understand.
i believe you can be happy in general and still feel sad and care for all the problems that other people face. especially problems that have been here forever and probably won't ever fully go away.
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Re: You people take yourselves way too seriously. [Re: XUL]
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Tell me how to let go and I will try. I wish I could.
ill tell you how to let go, forget about letting go in the first place.
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Re: You people take yourselves way too seriously. [Re: zZZz]
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Tell me how to let go and I will try. I wish I could.
ill tell you how to let go, forget about letting go in the first place.
And never say "but, but... I can't" because then you just started the cycle again.
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Re: You people take yourselves way too seriously. [Re: zZZz]
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^exactly. trying to hard to let go means you haven't yet let go
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