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The Black Stone of Allah
    #14195521 - 03/28/11 01:54 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Should I not be alarmed that one billion people pray to a meteor fragment every day? What exactly is it again that I am supposed to respect about religion?


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Re: The Black Stone of Allah [Re: OrgoneConclusion] * 1
    #14195529 - 03/28/11 01:55 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

is it shiny?


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Re: The Black Stone of Allah [Re: learningtofly]
    #14195573 - 03/28/11 02:06 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

What religion would that be? Please don't say scientology....


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Re: The Black Stone of Allah [Re: Age_of_Reflection] * 1
    #14195590 - 03/28/11 02:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Age_of_Reflection said:
What religion would that be? Please don't say scientology....



The black stone of Allah is a key component of Buddhism.


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Re: The Black Stone of Allah [Re: learningtofly]
    #14195602 - 03/28/11 02:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Oh. Forgive me, lol. Almost never fail to make myself look dumb when I post.


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Re: The Black Stone of Allah [Re: learningtofly]
    #14195603 - 03/28/11 02:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You should respect religion in the sense that you do not disturb them during their rituals and do not trash talk them for their faith. Nobody (well, some might, but you can always slam the door or tell these people to fuck off if they are bothering you BUT ONLY AFTER you politely ask them to keep to themselves) should be bothering you, so don't bother them. Play nice and get along, even if you disagree. We should all have that respect for each other.


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Re: The Black Stone of Allah [Re: learningtofly]
    #14195702 - 03/28/11 02:33 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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learningtofly said:
is it shiny?




Yes. I guess that explains it then.


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Re: The Black Stone of Allah [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14195740 - 03/28/11 02:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)


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http://dubaimetro.eu/featured/7271/%E2%80%9Cmekkah-metro%E2%80%9D-marks-a-green-hajj-for-pilgrims

Progress Towards A ‘Green Hajj’
The concept of a ‘Green Hajj‘ has already been discussed here at GreenProphet following the UN-backed Muslim Seven Year Plan which announced plans to encourage Muslims to be more environmentally friendly. Although there was talk of printing Qur’ans on sustainably sourced paper, reducing energy consumption at mosques and places of worship, many were cynical as to whether these plans would ever materialize. However, this year for the first time ever, pilgrims will be able to reduce their carbon footprint during hajj by travelling between Mecca’s holy sites via a very green form of public transport- the train.


Im stoned.. :stoner:


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Re: The Black Stone of Allah [Re: orison319]
    #14195774 - 03/28/11 02:52 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Does this tie into the 2001 Monolith?

"My God! It's full of bacon!" ~ Dr. Dave Bowman


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Re: The Black Stone of Allah [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14196276 - 03/28/11 06:20 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:awehigh:


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Re: The Black Stone of Allah [Re: orison319]
    #14196296 - 03/28/11 06:33 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It's a sign of Allah's covenant with man.
they don't worship the rock, the revere it as a symbol.
Much like Christians respect rainbows.

Note: very few modern Muslims consider that rock to be more than a special historical artifact. Think Last Supper- important but not Holy.


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Re: The Black Stone of Allah [Re: Joolz]
    #14196395 - 03/28/11 08:07 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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You should respect religion in the sense that you do not disturb them during their rituals and do not trash talk them for their faith.


I agree with not physically disturbing/verbally harassing them during their rituals, but why should I not trash talk them for their faith? Why should stupid rituals/beliefs get respect if they are part of a major religion? :osama:



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It's a sign of Allah's covenant with man.
they don't worship the rock, the revere it as a symbol.
Much like Christians respect rainbows.

Note: very few modern Muslims consider that rock to be more than a special historical artifact. Think Last Supper- important but not Holy.



Christians don't kiss rainbows, nor do they pray to them every day; this is just a stupid, pointless ritual. :arabs:

:sheepie:


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Re: The Black Stone of Allah [Re: Joolz]
    #14196779 - 03/28/11 10:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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You should respect religion in the sense that you do not disturb them during their rituals and do not trash talk them for their faith. Nobody (well, some might, but you can always slam the door or tell these people to fuck off if they are bothering you BUT ONLY AFTER you politely ask them to keep to themselves) should be bothering you, so don't bother them. Play nice and get along, even if you disagree. We should all have that respect for each other.



Who said they aren't bothering anyone? Look at how many kids die as a result of faith healing in the christian community. Should we just let them kill their kids because they believe that prayer will work despite any evidence?

I think that you have totally screwed up the meaning of "have respect for someone." A person is not the sum of their ideas, so I can criticize an idea all I want without disrespecting the person. You have set a double standard because you want them to be respected/sheltered by denying me the ability to criticize them. What kind of world would we live in if people just kept their mouth shut?


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Re: The Black Stone of Allah *DELETED* [Re: Poid]
    #14196795 - 03/28/11 10:59 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Reason for deletion: fuck it, i'm staying out of this one too



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Re: The Black Stone of Allah [Re: Kid_Orgo]
    #14196807 - 03/28/11 11:03 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Tolerance means letting other people's stupid beliefs and rituals (that don't affect you in any way) slide without comment.


Point being?


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Re: The Black Stone of Allah [Re: Poid]
    #14196825 - 03/28/11 11:07 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The point being that you can't just assume you are correct and they are wrong by taking a "default" scientific position on a matter. A lot of people fail to recognize that science and even materialism are just as much religions as christianity or islam


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Re: The Black Stone of Allah [Re: learningtofly]
    #14196836 - 03/28/11 11:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I don't think that was his point, I think he was trying to tell people that they should respect religions.


I don't consider science to be as much a religion as Christianity or Islam.


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Re: The Black Stone of Allah [Re: Poid]
    #14196842 - 03/28/11 11:12 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I don't think that was his point, I think he was trying to tell people that they should respect religions




No, I was saying that "respecting" something and "going out of your way to trash-talk it" are not an exhaustive list of the options.


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Re: The Black Stone of Allah [Re: Poid]
    #14196849 - 03/28/11 11:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You put faith in the scientific method and the works produced by it don't you? You're quite dogmatic about it. Wouldn't you say that science "has the answers?"


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Re: The Black Stone of Allah [Re: learningtofly] * 1
    #14196916 - 03/28/11 11:34 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Wouldn't you say that science "has the answers?"




I know you weren't talking to me but I don't think science has the answers, science is the most rational method to figure out the answers to many things.

I leave "religion" to cover things that can't be known one way or the other.


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