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DMT vs PCP
    #14193746 - 03/27/11 06:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Which is more insane, DMT breakthrough or whatever the equivalent of a K-hole is for PCP in terms of visuals, weirdness, and general intensity.

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Re: DMT vs PCP [Re: Ginto]
    #14193811 - 03/27/11 06:53 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Though I have experience with neither, my guess is that PCP would be on a higher intensity level as far as just being "fucked up" but that a DMT breakthrough would be far more meaningful.

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Re: DMT vs PCP [Re: Ginto]
    #14193830 - 03/27/11 06:57 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I've done my fair share of DMT (although I've only broken through once), but I've only done less than OBE amounts of PCP so I can't contribute on much there, but I'm gonna say that personally I think PCP is "weirder" and more intense than DMT in roughly equivalent trips, however I'm pretty sure you're going to black out from PCP at much lower proportional doses than you would from DMT, giving it lower potential.

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Re: DMT vs PCP [Re: Lunaria]
    #14194174 - 03/27/11 07:59 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

DMT wins this easily and I didn't even breakthrough on it. Don't get me wrong, PCP is still very intense, but not as much as what you hear in urban legends and on TV.

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Re: DMT vs PCP [Re: WingedWatcher] * 1
    #14194394 - 03/27/11 08:33 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I can only assume they have equally infinite potential for insanity


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Re: DMT vs PCP [Re: Ginto]
    #14194430 - 03/27/11 08:37 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

apples and tomatoes.


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Re: DMT vs PCP [Re: piracetam]
    #14194479 - 03/27/11 08:44 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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apples and tomatoes.




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Re: DMT vs PCP [Re: Ginto]
    #14194520 - 03/27/11 08:49 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Mail me a few doses each of PCP and DMT, I will write you an extremely detailed report comparing the differences.

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Re: DMT vs PCP [Re: Cynosure]
    #14194523 - 03/27/11 08:50 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

DMT is a psychedelic PCP is a dissociative. So I would go with DMT

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Re: DMT vs PCP [Re: Cakk]
    #14194649 - 03/27/11 09:07 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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DMT is a psychedelic PCP is a dissociative. So I would go with DMT




that doesn't really say anything.
that's like saying, "the maserati is a car, but the richard mille tourbillon is a watch. I choose the watch."


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Re: DMT vs PCP [Re: piracetam]
    #14194673 - 03/27/11 09:13 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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DMT is a psychedelic PCP is a dissociative. So I would go with DMT




that doesn't really say anything.
that's like saying, "the maserati is a car, but the richard mille tourbillon is a watch. I choose the watch."




Not even close, psychedelics and dissociatives are two different kinds of mind altering drugs and a lot of people prefer one kind over the other. Cars and watches are completely different things.


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Re: DMT vs PCP [Re: muistrue]
    #14194694 - 03/27/11 09:16 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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piracetam said:
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Cakk said:
DMT is a psychedelic PCP is a dissociative. So I would go with DMT




that doesn't really say anything.
that's like saying, "the maserati is a car, but the richard mille tourbillon is a watch. I choose the watch."




Not even close, psychedelics and dissociatives are two different kinds of mind altering drugs and a lot of people prefer one kind over the other. Cars and watches are completely different things.




That's what I'm trying to say a dissociative works way differently on your body then a psychedelic and for a breakthrough(going to a reality beyond this world) I would go with DMT which is the most potent psychedelic man can find/produce at this point in time.

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Re: DMT vs PCP [Re: muistrue]
    #14194703 - 03/27/11 09:18 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Hmm well I heard on PCP holes you can think you are another person with entire memories of the persons life and stuff, that sounds crazy.

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Re: DMT vs PCP [Re: Cakk]
    #14194707 - 03/27/11 09:18 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

dmt is not the most potent psychedelic.. perhaps the most powerful, but not the most potent.
pcp is a different animal altogether. it's onset is similar, but effects and duration are much different.


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Re: DMT vs PCP [Re: Cakk]
    #14194714 - 03/27/11 09:19 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Cakk said: I would go with DMT which is the most potent psychedelic man can find/produce at this point in time.




That isn't quite true. Off the top of my head LSD and Salvinorin A are both many many times more potent than DMT.


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Re: DMT vs PCP [Re: muistrue]
    #14194729 - 03/27/11 09:21 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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FractalDust said: Cars and watches are completely different things.




not necessarily, both examples I gave are precision machines and are rather pricy.
we can make several qualitative correlations between the two, but the functions are different, hence my analogy in reference to pcp
and dmt.

had both, they are both intense, but different effects.


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Re: DMT vs PCP [Re: piracetam]
    #14194736 - 03/27/11 09:22 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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dmt is not the most potent psychedelic.. perhaps the most powerful, but not the most potent.
pcp is a different animal altogether. it's onset is similar, but effects and duration are much different.




Elaborate on potency vs powerful? Potency being in how long it lasts or what?

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Re: DMT vs PCP [Re: Cakk]
    #14194750 - 03/27/11 09:24 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

potency is a function of binding affinity, but in layman's terms, effect per unit mass.


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Re: DMT vs PCP [Re: Cakk]
    #14194761 - 03/27/11 09:25 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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piracetam said:
dmt is not the most potent psychedelic.. perhaps the most powerful, but not the most potent.
pcp is a different animal altogether. it's onset is similar, but effects and duration are much different.




Elaborate on potency vs powerful? Potency being in how long it lasts or what?




Potency would be effect by weight, in which case it's definitely not true. A DMT-sized dose of LSD would be a psychedelic ass-kicking so indescribably insane that you'd never fully come down from it.

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Re: DMT vs PCP [Re: piracetam]
    #14194782 - 03/27/11 09:28 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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piracetam said:
potency is a function of binding affinity, but in layman's terms, effect per unit mass.




O thanks for enlightening me.  The word I was looking for was powerful.(In terms of visuals, and moving away from this reality)

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