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Moonshine acceptability 1
#14194642 - 03/27/11 09:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I was watching the Discovery Channel show "American Treasures" the other week and the hosts of the show drank moonshine with the people they were interviewing. At the end of the segment, the people they were interviewing brought out some moonshine and poured everyone a taste and they all sipped on it. And the guy who narrated before and after that clip, talked about it as if they had a beer or something. He talked about it matter of factly and didn't talk about the incident with any sense of doing something naughty at all. But they were all in possession of an illegal substance and then ingested that illegal substance. Don't get me wrong. I like moonshine just fine. But I just found it strange that people are so comfortable with an illegal product. Like those hosts would never smoke pot on TV.
I just thought it was kinda weird.
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Re: Moonshine acceptability [Re: Learyfan] 1
#14194653 - 03/27/11 09:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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yeah its weird, but that just shows our societies choice of intoxicants is very out of wack
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Well the illegality of home-brew and distilling varies from state to state. But I gotta say I really moonshine, especially with some added fruit like strawberry!
It's been awhile though...you know it isn't to hard to make the stuff. More people should get back into the craft.
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Re: Moonshine acceptability [Re: Learyfan]
#14194972 - 03/27/11 10:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I know distilling liquor is illegal in the US but I'm pretty sure drinking it is not. They probably weren't doing anything wrong by sipping on that because they weren't the ones who actually distilled it.
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Re: Moonshine acceptability [Re: muistrue]
#14194985 - 03/27/11 10:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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iv never had good shine
just juged white lightning
not the same right??
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Re: Moonshine acceptability [Re: Micawber]
#14195081 - 03/27/11 10:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Pretty sure White Lightening is the 'shine equivalent of Chronic in terms of being an overused name.
I've had some good nights though thanks to the elusive creature that is Moonshine.
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I had two moonshines, a light and a dark, one from the mid 70's, and one from the early 80's, about five years ago during a going away party.
Shit burned my soul.
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Re: Moonshine acceptability [Re: DrMambo]
#14195109 - 03/27/11 10:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Making your own alcohol is legal in Canada (I believe) as long as you don't sell it. I think its more about the government getting their cut then anything else.
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Re: Moonshine acceptability [Re: Learyfan] 1
#14195117 - 03/27/11 10:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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hmm, think I'll dust off the rye for a nightcap
liquor that comes in milk jugs = win
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Re: Moonshine acceptability [Re: The Vapor] 1
#14195122 - 03/27/11 10:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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The Vapor said: Making your own alcohol is legal in Canada (I believe) as long as you don't sell it. I think its more about the government getting their cut then anything else.
Well brewing beer and wine is perfectly legal in the US. I think it has more to do with how dangerous distilling is as far as the risk of explosion and traces of methanol being left in the product which can blind or kill.
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Re: Moonshine acceptability [Re: muistrue]
#14195217 - 03/27/11 10:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Its legal to create distilled ethanol for "fuel" I believe not sure about consumption. And selling for consumption is definitely illegal.
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Re: Moonshine acceptability [Re: muistrue]
#14205853 - 03/29/11 08:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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FractalDust said: I know distilling liquor is illegal in the US but I'm pretty sure drinking it is not. They probably weren't doing anything wrong by sipping on that because they weren't the ones who actually distilled it.
You could be right, Fractal. You usually are. But I'd like to know for sure if mere possession of moonshine is illegal. I have a feeling that it is.
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Re: Moonshine acceptability [Re: Learyfan]
#14205909 - 03/29/11 08:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Possession of actual moonshine (untaxed liquor) is definitely illegal.
That being said, are you sure they weren't drinking whiskey that was called "moonshine" but produced and sold legally?
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Re: Moonshine acceptability [Re: urbanwolf]
#14205920 - 03/29/11 08:41 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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urbanwolf said: Well the illegality of home-brew and distilling varies from state to state.
distilling is federal, there's no variance from state to state other than for licensed distilleries
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Re: Moonshine acceptability [Re: Enthrall]
#14205928 - 03/29/11 08:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Enthrall said: Its legal to create distilled ethanol for "fuel" I believe not sure about consumption. And selling for consumption is definitely illegal.
special occupational tax, fuel tax and it has to be denatured
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Re: Moonshine acceptability [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14205932 - 03/29/11 08:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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lol imagine if the only socially acceptable drug was CRACK 
and everyone jjust smoked crack pipes out in public and even police officers on weekends
and we locked up anyone with a cigarette or alcoholic beverage in their hand
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Re: Moonshine acceptability [Re: Set]
#14205946 - 03/29/11 08:45 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Set said: Possession of actual moonshine (untaxed liquor) is definitely illegal.
That being said, are you sure they weren't drinking whiskey that was called "moonshine" but produced and sold legally?
Well of course they could have been drinking water for all I know. But they presented it as if they were drinking real moonshine, not some brand of legal liquor named Moonshine.
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Re: Moonshine acceptability [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14205963 - 03/29/11 08:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I had some stuff the guy called Moonjuice. It was green moonshine he made with mj in it. I'm not sure the process he used to get the pot into the shine, but I know he used home grown clippings.
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Re: Moonshine acceptability [Re: Envix]
#14205965 - 03/29/11 08:47 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Envix said: and everyone jjust smoked crack pipes out in public and even police officers on weekends
One of my friends from high school is now a cop. And she openly admits to being in possession of peach moonshine. That's how acceptable it is. Cops don't even mind telling everyone that they do it.
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Re: Moonshine acceptability [Re: Learyfan]
#14206139 - 03/29/11 09:14 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Peach moonshine? I bet its peach wine.
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Re: Moonshine acceptability [Re: Prisoner#1]
#14206229 - 03/29/11 09:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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urbanwolf said: Well the illegality of home-brew and distilling varies from state to state.
distilling is federal, there's no variance from state to state other than for licensed distilleries
Owning a still isn't illegal, distilling alcohol is. Stills are used for many different uses, essential oils come to mind.
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Re: Moonshine acceptability [Re: Learyfan] 1
#14207842 - 03/30/11 04:48 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Let's all not forget Moonshiners are our brothers 
Defying the law to make illicit booze, and buying it to drink it.. A home grow of weed or shrooms, and buying weed and shrooms, extracting DMT, making LSD, all defying the law.. Wheres the difference?
Its all about the freedom to make informed choices what to put in your body, a principle the Shroomery is based on.
Pot growers, moonshiners, all face the same defamation by the Gov't.
Lets not kid ourselves here. Many home distillers distill liquors and liqueurs that put what you buy at the liquor store to shame, and nowadays with crappy oil mixes and factory processes, that isnt a particularly big feat to accomplish anymore.
You don't even need a still, chances are you have all you need in your kitchen RIGHT NOW.


Very occasionally I distill my own liquors, I'm proud to say, for personal use and to give away to friends.
My favorite creations are Absinthe d'Portarlier (made by following a recipe from the 1800s to the letter), Spanish Absenta (so good!), Ouzo, Lemon Brandy and I pass the benchmark test for any home distiller: a presentable, tasty vodka.
In a typical run I take 12kg sugar, top it off to make 50 liters sugar water, add a packet of Alcotec 24h Turbo Yeast and ferment in 4 days to yield 50 liters 13% alcohol.
With a wok still I reduce this to 12 liters 55% alcohol Single X (the Xes rating comes from moonshiners and reflects the number of times it is distilled, Triple X or XXX is preferred). My wok still accepts 4 liters and reduces it to 1 liter 4x concentration in an hour. Single X alcohol has 1/4 the yeasty flavors of the fermentation and as such is quite drinkable mixed with juice, but still a bit yeasty.
Then I redilute to 50 liters and repeat the exercise to get 12 liters XX alcohol (Double X). By this second distillation, yeast flavors are brought down to only 1/8 of what they were in the fermentation. This already is quite tasty.
Then I add the fine herbs (highest grade) and some dilution water (depends on the recipe and let the herbs soak 24-48 hours, then I distill it, herbs and all, to the desired concentration of XXX liquor.
If required I macerate herbs or add sugar and add 10ml/liter pharma grade glycerin to finish. With Absinthes I let them age 6 months before drinking.
Presto! quality booze at a few bucks per liter.
I only make very little, so I'm not out to save a buck, but rather to have a handmade booze of unique specifications. (like the 1800s Absinthe, you just cant buy that stuff anymore)
To have a friend enjoy your homemade booze.. thats priceless guys 
Home brewing/Home distilling FTW!
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Re: Moonshine acceptability [Re: Asante] 1
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Re: Moonshine acceptability [Re: Set]
#14207905 - 03/30/11 05:36 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Set said: Possession of actual moonshine (untaxed liquor) is definitely illegal...
Yea, it's all about the Feds wantin' their fair share. Damn revenuers . : ... . . .
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Re: Moonshine acceptability [Re: Asante]
#14208648 - 03/30/11 10:13 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Awesome, Wiccan. So your final product ends up being 100% alcohol, or? I've been meaning to make moonshine for a while and I'm looking for the best Tek.
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Re: Moonshine acceptability [Re: Learyfan] 1
#14208745 - 03/30/11 10:35 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I redilute my alcohol before distilling the same amount of alcohol from it again. The water is used to wash the alcohol, as it were. My XXX vodka (triple distilled) is made like so:
4 liter fermentation 13% --> 1 liter X + 3 liter water --> 1 liter XX + 3 liter water --> 1 liter XXX ~45-50% (has 1/32 of the yeasties) + distilled water to make it 37.5% alc + 10ml glycerin (pharmaceutical purity) per liter
Unless you are bent on moonshine, sugar/turboyeast fermentations are much easier and virtually failproof.
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Re: Moonshine acceptability [Re: Asante]
#14208905 - 03/30/11 11:05 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Get 95% Everclear, that should be about the same as moonshine, but maybe with better quality control. You actually can't get more pure than 95% alcohol unless you use laboratory refining procedures.
BTW You can't by 95% alcohol in California were I live, but it can be ordered online from out of state.
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Re: Moonshine acceptability [Re: demon66] 1
#14208947 - 03/30/11 11:14 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Moonshine is home distilled whiskey. Everclear cant replace that.
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Re: Moonshine acceptability [Re: Asante]
#14209061 - 03/30/11 11:36 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks, but I'm a little confused. Yours is only 37.5%? If so or even if not, how do you know what percentage it is?
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Re: Moonshine acceptability [Re: Asante]
#14209640 - 03/30/11 01:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: Moonshine is home distilled whiskey. Everclear cant replace that.
There some really good legal ones out...Junior Johnson's and an heirloom corn white whiskey...
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Re: Moonshine acceptability [Re: Learyfan] 1
#14210096 - 03/30/11 03:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Learyfan said: Thanks, but I'm a little confused. Yours is only 37.5%? If so or even if not, how do you know what percentage it is?
He dilutes it down to 37.5% from ~50% with water. You can use a hydrometer to measure just how much alcohol is in the mix.
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