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Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests?
#14191333 - 03/27/11 09:59 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm wondering if there is anything like this out there. Im currently working on quite abit of organic chemistry, neurology/biology, ect. All to completely understand the nervous system. Currently there is a doctor out there that I thought wasn't much but He wrote a hypothesis that I was unfortunately going to write but I believe I have a different view on it then he does. He seems to be missing a few things.
http://www.utdallas.edu/~mxa049000/lessons/research/literature/Autism/super%20new/Lippiello%20nicR%20blockers%20for%20autism%20MH%2006.pdf
So. Ive realized I am very high adaptable in intellectual means. I can learn anything involving spatial construction and logic, very fast. I know there are many people out there like this that can learn very fast. Have you found the fastest way to obtain a degree in things you already understand?
Also a personal question. That doctor above, I thought was no one really. It was one doctor, I realized now that he is one of the founders and senior principle scientist of Targacept. Targacept is a company looking to find broad medicines to suit many people with neurological disorders. Anxiety, paranoia, obesity(mental), Alzheimer's, Parkinson's and Autism. Including everything inbetween, which is a spectrum.
ADHD --> ADD.
Which I have known before reading this. Actually, I believe I have discovered the complete etiological reasons of autism in fetal development and the causes of it but this is another story. What I am looking for is to work at this company. Would it be to arrogant, to "Crazy" to send this guy an email after I know everything there needs to be known about all of this? I want some sort of income and some sort of credit.
So. Question 1. Is there any way to easily get a degree within a couple of months? Or less? I already know godly amounts of information and how the systems coexist and create each other. It comes to me very easily. Is there any possible way I can easily stack up some degrees?
Question 2. Is it to unrealistic to try and contact this doctor for a type of job/apprentienceship/anything to help really. This is what I have been trying to achieve all my life. I have been trying to achieve a correctly working brain and I have done so halfway, but I am not done yet and I realize I wont go far by myself. Would it be possible as a 19 year old asperger type "savant"(I don't mean to be so arrogant but I believe it halfway suits here). Would this have any possibility? I already have theories about how to help them as-well. They are going in the wrong direction in a few things, and I believe they will notice soon.
I believe figuring out the cholinergic tone problem in autism using eggs, weed, piracetam, DXM, and a shit load of time and logical deductions is enough proof for myself as a "savant". Especially since some of these guys have been working on this for 20+ years. Who knows, I could of been lucky.
Either way, I want to work here to help people like me and to correct my brain once and for all.
At this time, all I understand is.. well.. let me put it into a metaphor.
The brain is like a burning fire, there are two Spectrums. To much fire, and to little. There are many systems trying to balance this, but what is very important is understanding the differences between these campfires.
Autism Spectrum is a fire built of way to much fuel, and having the counter-fuel trying to tame it. That is it.
Alzheimers Spectrum is the opposite. A Dying fire, or a system that is killing the fire.
As of this time, I have the ability to starve my fire of fuel but I am looking to build it like any normal fire. WIth the correct systems balancing it.
I also believe understanding this will allow much advance in biochemical understanding of savants. The ability to reproduce it, and the ability to understand psychology much more then we do now.
Cholinergic system is just the fire of the brain, the modulator. The voltage of a computer. I look to control it.
What is realistic? What is possible? Has this happened before? Will this company believe I am crazy if I present it correct? First I intend to contact this doctor after I have learned everything, and then if not I intend to find a way to get a degree.
Is this possible?
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
#14191356 - 03/27/11 10:08 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Janamil said: So. Question 1. Is there any way to easily get a degree within a couple of months? Or less? I already know godly amounts of information and how the systems coexist and create each other. It comes to me very easily. Is there any possible way I can easily stack up some degrees?
If you already have a master's degree, sure. Find a professor in the field and ask him if he's willing to supervise your PhD thesis. As long as you bring your own money and you have a credible foundation for your work, you'll be able to find someone willing to get you through the process. You might have to try a couple of people until you find one who's interested in your work. If you don't have a master's degree, then you'll have to go through the process like anyone else. You will be able to considerably speed up the process of getting an academic degree if you already know everything, of course, but most courses involve some practical aspect (e.g. lab work and assignments) as well, and that stuff takes time as well.
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Question 2. Is it to unrealistic to try and contact this doctor for a type of job/apprentienceship/anything to help really.
You can try. But I guess a 19-year old 'savant' without a degree stands little chance in the academic hiring process.
Good luck on your endeavors.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: koraks]
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: koraks]
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Janamil said: So. Question 1. Is there any way to easily get a degree within a couple of months? Or less? I already know godly amounts of information and how the systems coexist and create each other. It comes to me very easily. Is there any possible way I can easily stack up some degrees?
If you already have a master's degree, sure. Find a professor in the field and ask him if he's willing to supervise your PhD thesis. As long as you bring your own money and you have a credible foundation for your work, you'll be able to find someone willing to get you through the process. You might have to try a couple of people until you find one who's interested in your work. If you don't have a master's degree, then you'll have to go through the process like anyone else. You will be able to considerably speed up the process of getting an academic degree if you already know everything, of course, but most courses involve some practical aspect (e.g. lab work and assignments) as well, and that stuff takes time as well.
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Question 2. Is it to unrealistic to try and contact this doctor for a type of job/apprentienceship/anything to help really.
You can try. But I guess a 19-year old 'savant' without a degree stands little chance in the academic hiring process.
Good luck on your endeavors.
What is the fastest way to achieve an academic degree? My language and math skills will always fall short until I fix this problem completely. Right now I can force it, but it takes much time encoding all of it into pictures. I honestly, may never find a complete resolution to this due to the fact Ive been like this all my life, but through sever cholinergic starvation I have had the ability to completely shift my mind to a usable means and almost completely language oriented but I lose my "Savant" abilities, also I become very dehydrated.
What this company is working on is exactly what I am, the control of this system. Controlling this system will be, so very beneficial to the majority of everyone on this board, To 20% of Americans. This system effects hundreds of neurological problems.
Is it to "Crazy" to send an email, telling this doctor about what I have done and my hypothesis's for improvement on the cholinergic NNRs. I have many thoeries I need to test out with expensive as fuck equipment but once you have the equipment its very cheap.
What I plan on doing is just a slight story, a few things and after I get a paper published on the subject. I plan on combining psychology, neurosis, autism, Alzheimer's and the connection between all of these and how to go about improving them on a chemical level. Once I get something passed this will help me quite abit.
But do you think it is still out of reach? I guess Im trying to ask an opinion on one persons decision but I do not understand common sense. What do you think?
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: ifoundwaldo]
#14191393 - 03/27/11 10:21 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I do not need to listen to self hating pathetic degenerate of society that gets attention via online arguments. That is all I will say to any troll posting on here. Grow up, I am done playing your silly games.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
#14191398 - 03/27/11 10:22 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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a degree in a couple months? highly doubtful. you could possibly get a number of certifications within that time period, though. alas, most certifications are vocational/technical. they don't exactly denote intellectual prowess either, just the ability and knowledge of doing certain tasks/jobs.
my suggestion is to go to community college. if you excel, you might be able to transfer to a school that interests you. from there, you could intern with professors or work alongside them in research and whatnot.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: meatcakeman]
#14191411 - 03/27/11 10:25 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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meatcakeman said: a degree in a couple months? highly doubtful. you could possibly get a number of certifications within that time period, though. alas, most certifications are vocational/technical. they don't exactly denote intellectual prowess either, just the ability and knowledge of doing certain tasks/jobs.
my suggestion is to go to community college. if you excel, you might be able to transfer to a school that interests you. from there, you could intern with professors or work alongside them in research and whatnot.
This wastes much time. I learn much faster then a college pace. I actually have been doing free college classes online, the video ones. MTI or such.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
#14191414 - 03/27/11 10:26 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Janamil said: What is the fastest way to achieve an academic degree?
I dunno, depends on too many things. But with no academic background whatsoever, I'd be extremely surprised if anyone managed to get from nothing to a master's degree in less than, say, 24 months.
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But do you think it is still out of reach? I guess Im trying to ask an opinion on one persons decision but I do not understand common sense. What do you think?
Well, putting it bluntly, common sense dictates that there's less than a one in a million chance that this is ever going to fly. But if you've got your mind set, then there's nothing else you can do but try anyway.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: koraks]
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Janamil said: What is the fastest way to achieve an academic degree?
I dunno, depends on too many things. But with no academic background whatsoever, I'd be extremely surprised if anyone managed to get from nothing to a master's degree in less than, say, 24 months.
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But do you think it is still out of reach? I guess Im trying to ask an opinion on one persons decision but I do not understand common sense. What do you think?
Well, putting it bluntly, common sense dictates that there's less than a one in a million chance that this is ever going to fly. But if you've got your mind set, then there's nothing else you can do but try anyway.
Except, if I understand almost as much as any Neurotoxicologist. How is that impossible? Just the fact that no one will see it?
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
#14191430 - 03/27/11 10:29 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Dude, you're not getting a Master's degrees in weeks. I don't care how smart you think you are.
Shit, I wish I could fast forward through college. I do homework once every couple of weeks. The classes are mind numbingly slow. I get all As. There really isn't another way to get a college degree.
Don't hate on me because I'm sick of your stupid threads.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
#14191435 - 03/27/11 10:30 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Janamil said: Except, if I understand almost as much as any Neurotoxicologist. How is that impossible? Just the fact that no one will see it?
Assuming your own estimation of your knowledge and capabilities is accurate, acceptance will still be a major issue, yes. I don't think many scientists are likely to take a 19 year old with no degree very seriously. You'll have to prove your abilities, and even then there will be questions if you'll fit in with the rest of the community.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
#14191437 - 03/27/11 10:31 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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There's no way to get a degree that fast. There's no way you know "everything," and claiming that you do just shows how ignorant you are. Even if you were completely proficient in the knowledge that you claim to have, you are still neglecting the research experience and statistics background which is critical to developing and testing a theory. These are the skills which are developed during a masters and ph.d. program.
I would definitely send the guy an email, it can't hurt. Just becareful about how you phrase things. Avoid the kind of self-promotinglanguage you've used in this post and stick to the hard facts and you might be able to get somewhere, but your chances are slim.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: ifoundwaldo]
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ifoundwaldo said: Dude, you're not getting a Master's degrees in weeks. I don't care how smart you think you are.
Shit, I wish I could fast forward through college. I do homework once every couple of weeks. The classes are mind numbingly slow. I get all As. There really isn't another way to get a college degree.
Don't hate on me because I'm sick of your stupid threads.
Then simply dont post in them, You degenerate.
Im looking for a way to skip it, simple as that. I obviously wont get it in weeks, but Im talking about already knowing what I know. It has been months, and will continue to be months until I know everything necessary but I do not want to repeat college for something I already understand.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
#14191448 - 03/27/11 10:32 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Janamil said: This wastes much time. I learn much faster then a college pace. I actually have been doing free college classes online, the video ones. MTI or such.
i don't really think it's a waste of time at all. but, whatever. suit yourself.
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Janamil said: Except, if I understand almost as much as any Neurotoxicologist. How is that impossible? Just the fact that no one will see it?

that is impossible without any formal education. trust me. i'm a neuroscience major and have met quite a few neurotoxicologists/neuropharmacologists, neurobiologists, neurologists, neuropsychologists, etc. i highly doubt you even know 1/10 of what they know.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: JT]
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JT said: There's no way to get a degree that fast. There's no way you know "everything," and claiming that you do just shows how ignorant you are. Even if you were completely proficient in the knowledge that you claim to have, you are still neglecting the research experience and statistics background which is critical to developing and testing a theory. These are the skills which are developed during a masters and ph.d. program.
I would definitely send the guy an email, it can't hurt. Just becareful about how you phrase things. Avoid the kind of self-promotinglanguage you've used in this post and stick to the hard facts and you might be able to get somewhere, but your chances are slim.
This is the type of post I needed, Thank you. Proving is the first step then, I guess that would be obvious but all hypothesis are is experiements that are practicle and done with equipment. Its just a logical understanding, which I have done in my mind since I was 8.
Are there laws or regulations involve I do not understand, or are you saying that I do not understand the learned experience associated with creating one? Because I have already written a few. Statistics?
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Janamil said: This wastes much time. I learn much faster then a college pace. I actually have been doing free college classes online, the video ones. MTI or such.
i don't really think it's a waste of time at all. but, whatever. suit yourself.
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Janamil said: Except, if I understand almost as much as any Neurotoxicologist. How is that impossible? Just the fact that no one will see it?

that is impossible without any formal education. trust me. i'm a neuroscience major and have met quite a few neurotoxicologists/neuropharmacologists, neurobiologists, neurologists, neuropsychologists, etc. i highly doubt you even know 1/10 of what they know.
Can we not assume please? I do not want to have this into a "YOU DUNB, NO I SMART, NO U DUMB, NO U" This goes nowhere.
Just assume I have the ability to learn much of neuroscience, I know the brain already like the back of my hand. I am currently going into organic chemistry and then will start on bio chemistry.
What do I do with this? That is my problem. If I learn it and have nothing to do.. what the hell is the point?
There is not one way to gain a degree when you already have the knowledge of the degree? What the fuck
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
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You need a lot of advanced statistics to prove your theory. You need credibility and a ph.d. supervisor at least to get human trials to even test your hypothesis. the research experience is just difficult to explain, but there are many methods you need to learn (like when it is important to have a control, how many participants you need to have power, etc)
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: JT]
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JT said: You need a lot of advanced statistics to prove your theory. You need credibility and a ph.d. supervisor at least to get human trials to even test your hypothesis. the research experience is just difficult to explain, but there are many methods you need to learn (like when it is im
Most of my hypothesis can be tested in small animals, and then if needed can be used to create a much bigger thing, eg. What this company is already doing. I don't want to have to waste 4-6 whatever years of my life just to do this.
Also, THANK YOU for that advanced statistics. That is something I should be learning aswell.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
#14191508 - 03/27/11 10:47 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Can't be too difficult if you mastered all that other stuff.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: koraks]
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koraks said: Can't be too difficult if you mastered all that other stuff.
Anything with intelligence just takes patience, imagination and courage. Is there anything else I should be learning as-well? Im going into organic chemistry to understand the chemical functions as much as possible, Neurology for obvs reasons, biology/development biology to understand how these are formed.
Anything else I need?
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
#14191515 - 03/27/11 10:50 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Practice writing and preparing your work for publication.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: koraks]
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koraks said: Practice writing and preparing your work for publication.
^ That's why I don't think University is a bad idea... they make you take classes which will prep you for your real world profession whether you like it or not.. and I don't think a compositional writing class or two would hurt ya.
Say what you want about being too smart for MIT and all those schools but until you try it (And get past the first year... that's when it really begins) you can't really say anything... those online classes are generally all introduction level classes.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
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Janamil said: Can we not assume please? I do not want to have this into a "YOU DUNB, NO I SMART, NO U DUMB, NO U" This goes nowhere.
Just assume I have the ability to learn much of neuroscience, I know the brain already like the back of my hand. I am currently going into organic chemistry and then will start on bio chemistry.
What do I do with this? That is my problem. If I learn it and have nothing to do.. what the hell is the point?
There is not one way to gain a degree when you already have the knowledge of the degree? What the fuck
okay let's just assume you have the capacity. you'd still have to finish organic chemistry before you could even be taken seriously. biochemistry isn't SUPER necessary, but having a basic fundamental background in it would do your cause some justice. in college, you can't even take any upper division neuroscience courses unless you've finished the organic chem. series and a few elective biochemistry courses. keep in mind, you don't necessarily have to know these subjects like the back of your hand. you just need to know them well enough to apply them to what you're studying. with neuropharmacology, you probably need to thoroughly understand endogenous neurotoxins/neurotransmitters and whatnot. you'd have to know the mapping of pertaining receptors and how certain chemical compounds/structures affect these receptors. thus, organic chemistry is HUGELY important.
if you truly believe in yourself, why wade around in pools of doubt. go out there and make something of yourself. make all of us college kids look worthless in comparison.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: meatcakeman]
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koraks said: Practice writing and preparing your work for publication.
My writing will get automatically better when I set my cholinergic system perfectly right. That is.. counter-productive. Once this is figured out, language will flow to me much easily when needed and I should theoretically be-able to change back and forth.
Also I dont know everything obviously, I just have the ability to and well so does everyone else. I just get a lot of it from intuition.
Thank you, if anything I learned about statistics (Why the hell didn't I think of that). I just wish there was an easier way to get a degree of already known knowledge.
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Janamil said: Can we not assume please? I do not want to have this into a "YOU DUNB, NO I SMART, NO U DUMB, NO U" This goes nowhere.
Just assume I have the ability to learn much of neuroscience, I know the brain already like the back of my hand. I am currently going into organic chemistry and then will start on bio chemistry.
What do I do with this? That is my problem. If I learn it and have nothing to do.. what the hell is the point?
There is not one way to gain a degree when you already have the knowledge of the degree? What the fuck
okay let's just assume you have the capacity. you'd still have to finish organic chemistry before you could even be taken seriously. biochemistry isn't SUPER necessary, but having a basic fundamental background in it would do your cause some justice. in college, you can't even take any upper division neuroscience courses unless you've finished the organic chem. series and a few elective biochemistry courses. keep in mind, you don't necessarily have to know these subjects like the back of your hand. you just need to know them well enough to apply them to what you're studying. with neuropharmacology, you probably need to thoroughly understand endogenous neurotoxins/neurotransmitters and whatnot. you'd have to know the mapping of pertaining receptors and how certain chemical compounds/structures affect these receptors. thus, organic chemistry is HUGELY important.
if you truly believe in yourself, why wade around in pools of doubt. go out there and make something of yourself. make all of us college kids look worthless in comparison. 
Known knowledge inhibits intelligence, If I learn everything in the wrong way I must learn how to make it right. Learning "Just enough" is what limits many scientists. They see other peoples possible faults as true, and do not question it. Anyway learning at my own pace would be the most beneficial to set my mindset the way it needs to be set.
Ive been taking those classes online, Some free thing. Or something along the lines of that college, Im not sure the exact name. One that has free college classes online if you donate abit and filled with video, ect.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
#14191556 - 03/27/11 10:59 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Janamil said: Known knowledge inhibits intelligence, If I learn everything in the wrong way I must learn how to make it right. Learning "Just enough" is what limits many scientists. They see other peoples possible faults as true, and do not question it.
If that is your image of science, then there's a lot of catching up you need to do. It's exactly the other way around.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
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Janamil said: Known knowledge inhibits intelligence, If I learn everything in the wrong way I must learn how to make it right. Learning "Just enough" is what limits many scientists. They see other peoples possible faults as true, and do not question it. Anyway learning at my own pace would be the most beneficial to set my mindset the way it needs to be set.
Ive been taking those classes online, Some free thing. Or something along the lines of that college, Im not sure the exact name. One that has free college classes online if you donate abit and filled with video, ect.
what the hell are you talking about? you NEED to know these things, whether you think they inhibit your learning progress or not. you can't just watch a couple youtube videos and all of sudden become a biochemist.
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Janamil said: Known knowledge inhibits intelligence, If I learn everything in the wrong way I must learn how to make it right. Learning "Just enough" is what limits many scientists. They see other peoples possible faults as true, and do not question it.
If that is your image of science, then there's a lot of catching up you need to do. It's exactly the other way around.
my thoughts exactly.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: JT]
#14191569 - 03/27/11 11:01 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't think you understand how the world works. Your ego is also fucking huge, as in really really large. Try working on that first Mr. Smart Guy.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: meatcakeman]
#14191577 - 03/27/11 11:03 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Janamil said: Known knowledge inhibits intelligence, If I learn everything in the wrong way I must learn how to make it right. Learning "Just enough" is what limits many scientists. They see other peoples possible faults as true, and do not question it.
If that is your image of science, then there's a lot of catching up you need to do. It's exactly the other way around.
Doesn't really seem like we question the base roots of everything, Just problems and associated around the problems. Questioning the base root of what it is, does not happen on a huge scale. Its obvious that they would question what they have, but questioning something that has been questioned before, or learning about common aliments or common ways of thinking inhibits how you think about something.
I would rather learn like this then college
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Janamil said: Known knowledge inhibits intelligence, If I learn everything in the wrong way I must learn how to make it right. Learning "Just enough" is what limits many scientists. They see other peoples possible faults as true, and do not question it. Anyway learning at my own pace would be the most beneficial to set my mindset the way it needs to be set.
Ive been taking those classes online, Some free thing. Or something along the lines of that college, Im not sure the exact name. One that has free college classes online if you donate abit and filled with video, ect.
what the hell are you talking about? you NEED to know these things, whether you think they inhibit your learning progress or not. you can't just watch a couple youtube videos and all of sudden become a biochemist.
You obviously need to know this shit, but wouldn't it be more beneficial to understand only a part of it, and think of every outcome? And then move on? Learning something that is already known limits the way you think.
I don't care what you say, This is true.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
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Janamil said: Known knowledge inhibits intelligence, If I learn everything in the wrong way I must learn how to make it right. Learning "Just enough" is what limits many scientists. They see other peoples possible faults as true, and do not question it. Anyway learning at my own pace would be the most beneficial to set my mindset the way it needs to be set.
Ive been taking those classes online, Some free thing. Or something along the lines of that college, Im not sure the exact name. One that has free college classes online if you donate abit and filled with video, ect.
what the hell are you talking about? you NEED to know these things, whether you think they inhibit your learning progress or not. you can't just watch a couple youtube videos and all of sudden become a biochemist.
You obviously need to know this shit, but wouldn't it be more beneficial to understand only a part of it, and think of every outcome? And then move on? Learning something that is already known limits the way you think.
I don't care what you say, This is true.
not really. science is for the most part quantifiable. thus, what you learn can be tested again and again for an expected outcome. wouldn't it be far more beneficial for you to learn all of it so you thoroughly understand the theories first? then, after you've mastered it, you can come up with your own theories.
btw, i really just need to tell you the gravitas of what you're doing. if you step into a lab with that kind of attitude, no one will ever take you seriously. if you think you can just learn half of organic chemistry so you can just make up your own mumbo jumbo, you are sadly mistaken. you might as well just do all of your research on your own because no one in their right mind would ever waste any of their grant money trying to incorporate your skills into their research. sorry, brah.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: meatcakeman]
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Ive been taking those classes online, Some free thing. Or something along the lines of that college, Im not sure the exact name. One that has free college classes online if you donate abit and filled with video, ect.
what the hell are you talking about? you NEED to know these things, whether you think they inhibit your learning progress or not. you can't just watch a couple youtube videos and all of sudden become a biochemist.
You obviously need to know this shit, but wouldn't it be more beneficial to understand only a part of it, and think of every outcome? And then move on? Learning something that is already known limits the way you think.
I don't care what you say, This is true.
not really. science is for the most part quantifiable. thus, what you learn can be tested again and again for an expected outcome. wouldn't it be far more beneficial for you to learn all of it so you thoroughly understand the theories first? then, after you've mastered it, you can come up with your own theories.
btw, i really just need to tell you the gravitas of what you're doing. if you step into a lab with that kind of attitude, no one will ever take you seriously. if you think you can just learn half of organic chemistry so you can just make up your own mumbo jumbo, you are sadly mistaken. you might as well just do all of your research on your own because no one in their right mind would ever waste any of their grant money trying to incorporate your skills into their research. sorry, brah.
Mumbo jumbo. So me proposing that learning in a literal way with only the complex systems, the questions, asking the questions a thousand times and then moving on and learning from what you have questioned yourself is mumble jumbo?
Im pretty sure many scientific breakthroughs have been in questioning something, someone has not. How is this blasphemy? I do not want to fall back on other peoples science, as it may be wrong.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
#14191619 - 03/27/11 11:11 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well, some autistic boy at age 12 is now an astrophysics researcher who claims to have improved upon Einstein's theory of relativity.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14182520/page/2
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
#14191631 - 03/27/11 11:13 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Take the GRE in chemistry or biology, I think they offer specialized tests in those majors. IF you get literally a perfect, you may be able to convince some school to let you into a grad program without an undergrad degree.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
#14191634 - 03/27/11 11:14 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Janamil said: Mumbo jumbo. So me proposing that learning in a literal way with only the complex systems, the questions, asking the questions a thousand times and then moving on and learning from what you have questioned yourself is mumble jumbo?
Im pretty sure many scientific breakthroughs have been in questioning something, someone has not. How is this blasphemy? I do not want to fall back on other peoples science, as it may be wrong.
you don't need to fallback on anything. but you do need to understand a theory in order to realize its fallacies. this is plain old common sense.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Chespirito]
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Thank you, that is what I have been looking for.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
#14191656 - 03/27/11 11:18 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well good luck. If you don't want to learn the existing theories in science than I imagine it will be pretty damn hard to pass a graduate level test on them. Just take some datura beforehand, its anti-chlorinergic properties should do the trick of regulatin' your chlorinergic system then you'll be like.... a god of science
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: meatcakeman]
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Im pretty sure many scientific breakthroughs have been in questioning something, someone has not. How is this blasphemy? I do not want to fall back on other peoples science, as it may be wrong.
you don't need to fallback on anything. but you do need to understand a theory in order to realize its fallacies. this is plain old common sense.
Common collective conscious, Neuroplasticity, ect. My brain is much more susceptible to "Wrong" as what I learn instantly becomes part of me, in a.. web of unconscious patterns and thoughts. Learning shit in easy terms is the wrong way to go. Most colleges will start off like that, as it should but I do not learn in this way.Quote:
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Im pretty sure many scientific breakthroughs have been in questioning something, someone has not. How is this blasphemy? I do not want to fall back on other peoples science, as it may be wrong.
you don't need to fallback on anything. but you do need to understand a theory in order to realize its fallacies. this is plain old common sense.
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Im pretty sure many scientific breakthroughs have been in questioning something, someone has not. How is this blasphemy? I do not want to fall back on other peoples science, as it may be wrong.
you don't need to fallback on anything. but you do need to understand a theory in order to realize its fallacies. this is plain old common sense.
I would rather make it my own theory, check it, See what I did wrong and move on. It allows you many different connections you would not learn by learning it backwards.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: twighead]
#14191675 - 03/27/11 11:22 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Because almost a complete muscarinic antagonist will be the best thing -_-. My problem associated with nicotinic receptors, not muscarinic.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
#14191682 - 03/27/11 11:23 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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you are in utter self-denial, living in your own delusional hallucinations. i would feel bad for you if i cared.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
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Because almost a complete muscarinic antagonist will be the best thing -_-. My problem associated with nicotinic receptors, not muscarinic.
Than take ibogaine
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: meatcakeman]
#14191693 - 03/27/11 11:26 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Is there any way I can ask questions without this BS? I dont understand why people must instantly assume this. Ive already discovered the cholienrgic tone of autism and that guy has been working on it for 20 years. It took me two, DXM logical deductions of muscle tone/skeleton and attention span. Using slight muscarinic receptor antaognists slightly have the same effect, but in a different sense.
Not only that, but I am almost completely intuition for psychology. I can understand someones psychology with an hour talk with them, or just by observing them. Its just the communication and inability to have my thoughts project into anything expressive that is the problem.
Im leaving this thread now, since this will turn into troll central soon.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
#14191709 - 03/27/11 11:31 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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how do you expect anyone to take you seriously when your english is worse than a 5th grader's? also, you can't prove anything you claim, and you still have the audacity to try and tell us you can completely skip college and go straight into a research position. that is fucking erroneous. just look at the title of this thread and your original post. it reeks of self-righteousness and ignorance.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
#14191724 - 03/27/11 11:35 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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It took me two, DXM logical deductions
I found your secret ingredient. I thought you said you weren't going to tell us what you were using.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
#14191747 - 03/27/11 11:40 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Unfortunately, the short answer is "no". You aren't going to get an accelerated degree.
The typical course of study for PhD in the biological sciences is the following: 4 years of undergrad, about 5 for a PhD, and another three in a fellowship program. This is a total of 12 YEARS. You cannot condense 12 YEARS into a few months, or even a few years.
This is due to the fact that a large part of science comes from experience, and it's something you can't really "condense" in any way.
As far as the investigator you're interested in is concerned, go ahead and ask. I would advise you to be much more modest and less grandiose in your approach.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: badchad]
#14191806 - 03/27/11 11:52 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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The typical course of study for PhD in the biological sciences is the following: 4 years of undergrad, about 5 for a PhD, and another three in a fellowship program. This is a total of 12 YEARS. You cannot condense 12 YEARS into a few months, or even a few years.
This is due to the fact that a large part of science comes from experience, and it's something you can't really "condense" in any way.
As far as the investigator you're interested in is concerned, go ahead and ask. I would advise you to be much more modest and less grandiose in your approach.
Once I have extensive knowledge, I plan on just giving him a few hypothesis on how to improve NNR drugs.
I should write a short paper on here about the psychology of trolls.
Its quite astounding how pathetic someone can get while still staying in social boundaries. Its quite sad.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: meatcakeman]
#14191838 - 03/27/11 12:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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this.
sorry OP, but you sounds like a complete fucking fool.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: herbalMedz]
#14191848 - 03/27/11 12:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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this.
sorry OP, but you sounds like a complete fucking fool.
I doubt the kid that is doing mathematics supposedly challenging Einsteins thoeries can do anything in english properly, and I doubt he ever will fully. Dont assume so easily, Autism comes with very high strengths and very low weaknesses. My life will be on pursuit of how to combat this weakness.
I just dont understand why people assume so fast, Try to look past the cover huh?
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
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you're actually very wrong. he is currently enrolled at a university, which ultimately requires a COLLEGE LEVEL OF ENGLISH.
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Looking at labels again, I doubt he does english properly. Hes most likely in a special program suited to his strengths. For a supposedly neurologist major, you really dont understand the capability of the brain.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
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I sure hope his biology is better than his grammar.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
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Looking at labels again, I doubt he does english properly. Hes most likely in a special program suited to his strengths. For a supposedly neurologist major, you really dont understand the capability of the brain.
based upon his language and writing skills, i think you are presumptuous and utterly wrong. and i'm not a "neurologist" major. 
correct terminology: neuroscience major. btw, i'm also double majoring in psychology, and you, my friend, need some professional help.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: meatcakeman]
#14191937 - 03/27/11 12:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I sure hope his biology is better than his grammar.
As Ive already said, I see in pictures. Its an obvious psychological... expression based on faults/weaknesses. Someone suited and has been suited the most of the persons life to think in one direction because it is the easiest pathway for the brain to take and adapt to, is obviously going to have very high strengths and very high weaknesses that this person must improve on.
Its common sense, or at least I believe so. If someone is thinking in purely pictures, How would they encode a conversation? How about something purely thinking in math?
Think you fool.
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Looking at labels again, I doubt he does english properly. Hes most likely in a special program suited to his strengths. For a supposedly neurologist major, you really dont understand the capability of the brain.
based upon his language and writing skills, i think you are presumptuous and utterly wrong. and i'm not a "neurologist" major. 
correct terminology: neuroscience major. btw, i'm also double majoring in psychology, and you, my friend, need some professional help.
Lol, So language in mathmatical terms is not a weakness for obvious reasons. It is all he thinks about, How to communicate what he instinctively knows through "Intuition" Or forced thought patterns. All he does is think in one direction and finds a way to express it no matter what. It seems like hes pretty far into it aswell, because most of what he says seems to be.. Predicted? no.. Rehearsed. Most autistic find the easiest way to say something, and uses that as a shortcut as it does not come to them naturally. Thinking about it more, allows more easy to access rehearsed sayings.
Please get out of science, Someone completely closed minded should not be questioning things.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
#14191984 - 03/27/11 12:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Dude, it's the internet and we don't know you. The way you post, making sweeping claims and such, makes you come off like an ignorant asshat. I'm not saying your theory is wrong, I don't know, maybe you've had a miraculous breakthrough. But you have to realize that your claims are ridiculous and outlandish and the fact that you can't spell or use proper grammer on a means of communication which relies on english only makes you seem more crazy.
And NO, NO, NO you won't just magically learn grammer and spelling by "fixing the choilinergic pathways of your brain." That requires practice and dedication, something you seem to be completely prone to avoiding.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: JT]
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And NO, NO, NO you won't just magically learn grammer and spelling by "fixing the choilinergic pathways of your brain." That requires practice and dedication, something you seem to be completely prone to avoiding.
Lol, Try me. Ive done it before, and can do it again. What it does in the brain is slow it down, my current theory is autism is a problem with the left brain, allowing shortcuts, neuroplasticity and general problem solving to go to the right brain. When completely enabled properly, This shifts to the left brain. The left brain/correct ion speed allows much more "intuition" in language. Default intelligence in understanding language, body language, and overall normal brain performance.
I have experienced this before, do not tell me it is wrong.
Okay, lets do an experiment. Anyone got choline? Anyone? Go take a gram, see how well you think. Take a gram or two, (Dont do this if you have high blood pressure). Youll become literally slightly autistic if everything lines up correctly, but in most people it should.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
#14192025 - 03/27/11 12:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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lol janamil 
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
#14192033 - 03/27/11 12:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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janamil i'd very much like to see how you'd fare in one of my neuroscience classes. maybe after spring break i'll PM you some homework and see how well you actually know your material? btw, i'm enrolled in a graduate class even though i'm in undergrad, so this might ultimately prove your worth.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
#14192036 - 03/27/11 12:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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What have you experienced, and how do you know it was from an imbalance between your right and left hemispheres? How do you know that your broca's or wernicke's areas aren't just undeveloped?
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: JT]
#14192045 - 03/27/11 12:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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JT said: What have you experienced, and how do you know it was from an imbalance between your right and left hemispheres? How do you know that your broca's or wernicke's areas aren't just undeveloped?
Since the evidence of neuroplasticity, static areas in the brain are now obsolete, They are just a sterotype.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: meatcakeman]
#14192051 - 03/27/11 12:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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meatcakeman said: janamil i'd very much like to see how you'd fare in one of my neuroscience classes. maybe after spring break i'll PM you some homework and see how well you actually know your material? btw, i'm enrolled in a graduate class even though i'm in undergrad, so this might ultimately prove your worth.
what say you, Janamil?
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: meatcakeman]
#14192058 - 03/27/11 12:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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meatcakeman said: janamil i'd very much like to see how you'd fare in one of my neuroscience classes. maybe after spring break i'll PM you some homework and see how well you actually know your material? btw, i'm enrolled in a graduate class even though i'm in undergrad, so this might ultimately prove your worth.
what say you, Janamil?
Sure actually. I should know much more then I do now by then. What is it about though? Just general neuroscience?
EDIT: Im not doing it to prove my worth, but it is a great challenge rather then just trying to learn everything.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
#14192073 - 03/27/11 12:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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The fundamentals of neuroscience in molecular and cellular mechanisms, neural and hormonal systems, and neural control of behavior.
that's the info on my syllabus. 
btw, my first class is this tuesday, so expect a pm by this friday.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
#14192076 - 03/27/11 12:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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JT said: What have you experienced, and how do you know it was from an imbalance between your right and left hemispheres? How do you know that your broca's or wernicke's areas aren't just undeveloped?
Since the evidence of neuroplasticity, static areas in the brain are now obsolete, They are just a sterotype.
In some cases they have been shown to change, yes, but the areas are generally correct for a normal individual. What I am saying is that without any kind of tests, you really have no idea wtf is going on in your own brain. What you have is a huge case of webMD syndrome.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: meatcakeman]
#14192077 - 03/27/11 12:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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The fundamentals of neuroscience in molecular and cellular mechanisms, neural and hormonal systems, and neural control of behavior.
that's the info on my syllabus. 
btw, my first class is this tuesday, so expect a pm by this friday.
I dont know anything about molecular, or cells yet. Well I do, but not in relation to neuroscience yet but please do this. As this will ultimately help.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
#14192086 - 03/27/11 12:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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i mean, yeah. i'll send you some homework if i have any. most of these classes tend to just be research and tests, though.
but, i must say, you are an interesting individual. i'd very much like to see how deep this rabbit hole goes, or if it's just swarming with snakes.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: JT]
#14192088 - 03/27/11 12:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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JT said: What have you experienced, and how do you know it was from an imbalance between your right and left hemispheres? How do you know that your broca's or wernicke's areas aren't just undeveloped?
Since the evidence of neuroplasticity, static areas in the brain are now obsolete, They are just a sterotype.
In some cases they have been shown to change, yes, but the areas are generally correct for a normal individual. What I am saying is that without any kind of tests, you really have no idea wtf is going on in your own brain. What you have is a huge case of webMD syndrome.
WEBMD syndrome, But my evidence as stated is that the cholinergic attention problems happen in the left frontal cortex. In recent adtopsies there are high number, and larger cholinergic receptors. Also, brainscans show autistics have a shittier left side then right.
Also my intelligence is very random, intuitive and what I learn seems to be "fed" into the right brain which then translates it into random bursts of information, pictures, ect. Its controlling it that is hard.
Edited by Janamil (03/27/11 12:46 PM)
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