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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: koraks]
#14191529 - 03/27/11 10:53 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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koraks said: Practice writing and preparing your work for publication.
^ That's why I don't think University is a bad idea... they make you take classes which will prep you for your real world profession whether you like it or not.. and I don't think a compositional writing class or two would hurt ya.
Say what you want about being too smart for MIT and all those schools but until you try it (And get past the first year... that's when it really begins) you can't really say anything... those online classes are generally all introduction level classes.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
#14191531 - 03/27/11 10:53 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Janamil said: Can we not assume please? I do not want to have this into a "YOU DUNB, NO I SMART, NO U DUMB, NO U" This goes nowhere.
Just assume I have the ability to learn much of neuroscience, I know the brain already like the back of my hand. I am currently going into organic chemistry and then will start on bio chemistry.
What do I do with this? That is my problem. If I learn it and have nothing to do.. what the hell is the point?
There is not one way to gain a degree when you already have the knowledge of the degree? What the fuck
okay let's just assume you have the capacity. you'd still have to finish organic chemistry before you could even be taken seriously. biochemistry isn't SUPER necessary, but having a basic fundamental background in it would do your cause some justice. in college, you can't even take any upper division neuroscience courses unless you've finished the organic chem. series and a few elective biochemistry courses. keep in mind, you don't necessarily have to know these subjects like the back of your hand. you just need to know them well enough to apply them to what you're studying. with neuropharmacology, you probably need to thoroughly understand endogenous neurotoxins/neurotransmitters and whatnot. you'd have to know the mapping of pertaining receptors and how certain chemical compounds/structures affect these receptors. thus, organic chemistry is HUGELY important.
if you truly believe in yourself, why wade around in pools of doubt. go out there and make something of yourself. make all of us college kids look worthless in comparison.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: meatcakeman]
#14191546 - 03/27/11 10:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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koraks said: Practice writing and preparing your work for publication.
My writing will get automatically better when I set my cholinergic system perfectly right. That is.. counter-productive. Once this is figured out, language will flow to me much easily when needed and I should theoretically be-able to change back and forth.
Also I dont know everything obviously, I just have the ability to and well so does everyone else. I just get a lot of it from intuition.
Thank you, if anything I learned about statistics (Why the hell didn't I think of that). I just wish there was an easier way to get a degree of already known knowledge.
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Just assume I have the ability to learn much of neuroscience, I know the brain already like the back of my hand. I am currently going into organic chemistry and then will start on bio chemistry.
What do I do with this? That is my problem. If I learn it and have nothing to do.. what the hell is the point?
There is not one way to gain a degree when you already have the knowledge of the degree? What the fuck
okay let's just assume you have the capacity. you'd still have to finish organic chemistry before you could even be taken seriously. biochemistry isn't SUPER necessary, but having a basic fundamental background in it would do your cause some justice. in college, you can't even take any upper division neuroscience courses unless you've finished the organic chem. series and a few elective biochemistry courses. keep in mind, you don't necessarily have to know these subjects like the back of your hand. you just need to know them well enough to apply them to what you're studying. with neuropharmacology, you probably need to thoroughly understand endogenous neurotoxins/neurotransmitters and whatnot. you'd have to know the mapping of pertaining receptors and how certain chemical compounds/structures affect these receptors. thus, organic chemistry is HUGELY important.
if you truly believe in yourself, why wade around in pools of doubt. go out there and make something of yourself. make all of us college kids look worthless in comparison. 
Known knowledge inhibits intelligence, If I learn everything in the wrong way I must learn how to make it right. Learning "Just enough" is what limits many scientists. They see other peoples possible faults as true, and do not question it. Anyway learning at my own pace would be the most beneficial to set my mindset the way it needs to be set.
Ive been taking those classes online, Some free thing. Or something along the lines of that college, Im not sure the exact name. One that has free college classes online if you donate abit and filled with video, ect.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
#14191556 - 03/27/11 10:59 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Janamil said: Known knowledge inhibits intelligence, If I learn everything in the wrong way I must learn how to make it right. Learning "Just enough" is what limits many scientists. They see other peoples possible faults as true, and do not question it.
If that is your image of science, then there's a lot of catching up you need to do. It's exactly the other way around.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
#14191559 - 03/27/11 11:00 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Janamil said: Known knowledge inhibits intelligence, If I learn everything in the wrong way I must learn how to make it right. Learning "Just enough" is what limits many scientists. They see other peoples possible faults as true, and do not question it. Anyway learning at my own pace would be the most beneficial to set my mindset the way it needs to be set.
Ive been taking those classes online, Some free thing. Or something along the lines of that college, Im not sure the exact name. One that has free college classes online if you donate abit and filled with video, ect.
what the hell are you talking about? you NEED to know these things, whether you think they inhibit your learning progress or not. you can't just watch a couple youtube videos and all of sudden become a biochemist.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: koraks]
#14191561 - 03/27/11 11:00 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Janamil said: Known knowledge inhibits intelligence, If I learn everything in the wrong way I must learn how to make it right. Learning "Just enough" is what limits many scientists. They see other peoples possible faults as true, and do not question it.
If that is your image of science, then there's a lot of catching up you need to do. It's exactly the other way around.
my thoughts exactly.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: JT]
#14191569 - 03/27/11 11:01 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't think you understand how the world works. Your ego is also fucking huge, as in really really large. Try working on that first Mr. Smart Guy.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: meatcakeman]
#14191577 - 03/27/11 11:03 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Janamil said: Known knowledge inhibits intelligence, If I learn everything in the wrong way I must learn how to make it right. Learning "Just enough" is what limits many scientists. They see other peoples possible faults as true, and do not question it.
If that is your image of science, then there's a lot of catching up you need to do. It's exactly the other way around.
Doesn't really seem like we question the base roots of everything, Just problems and associated around the problems. Questioning the base root of what it is, does not happen on a huge scale. Its obvious that they would question what they have, but questioning something that has been questioned before, or learning about common aliments or common ways of thinking inhibits how you think about something.
I would rather learn like this then college
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Janamil said: Known knowledge inhibits intelligence, If I learn everything in the wrong way I must learn how to make it right. Learning "Just enough" is what limits many scientists. They see other peoples possible faults as true, and do not question it. Anyway learning at my own pace would be the most beneficial to set my mindset the way it needs to be set.
Ive been taking those classes online, Some free thing. Or something along the lines of that college, Im not sure the exact name. One that has free college classes online if you donate abit and filled with video, ect.
what the hell are you talking about? you NEED to know these things, whether you think they inhibit your learning progress or not. you can't just watch a couple youtube videos and all of sudden become a biochemist.
You obviously need to know this shit, but wouldn't it be more beneficial to understand only a part of it, and think of every outcome? And then move on? Learning something that is already known limits the way you think.
I don't care what you say, This is true.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
#14191601 - 03/27/11 11:08 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Janamil said: Known knowledge inhibits intelligence, If I learn everything in the wrong way I must learn how to make it right. Learning "Just enough" is what limits many scientists. They see other peoples possible faults as true, and do not question it. Anyway learning at my own pace would be the most beneficial to set my mindset the way it needs to be set.
Ive been taking those classes online, Some free thing. Or something along the lines of that college, Im not sure the exact name. One that has free college classes online if you donate abit and filled with video, ect.
what the hell are you talking about? you NEED to know these things, whether you think they inhibit your learning progress or not. you can't just watch a couple youtube videos and all of sudden become a biochemist.
You obviously need to know this shit, but wouldn't it be more beneficial to understand only a part of it, and think of every outcome? And then move on? Learning something that is already known limits the way you think.
I don't care what you say, This is true.
not really. science is for the most part quantifiable. thus, what you learn can be tested again and again for an expected outcome. wouldn't it be far more beneficial for you to learn all of it so you thoroughly understand the theories first? then, after you've mastered it, you can come up with your own theories.
btw, i really just need to tell you the gravitas of what you're doing. if you step into a lab with that kind of attitude, no one will ever take you seriously. if you think you can just learn half of organic chemistry so you can just make up your own mumbo jumbo, you are sadly mistaken. you might as well just do all of your research on your own because no one in their right mind would ever waste any of their grant money trying to incorporate your skills into their research. sorry, brah.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: meatcakeman]
#14191618 - 03/27/11 11:11 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Janamil said: Known knowledge inhibits intelligence, If I learn everything in the wrong way I must learn how to make it right. Learning "Just enough" is what limits many scientists. They see other peoples possible faults as true, and do not question it. Anyway learning at my own pace would be the most beneficial to set my mindset the way it needs to be set.
Ive been taking those classes online, Some free thing. Or something along the lines of that college, Im not sure the exact name. One that has free college classes online if you donate abit and filled with video, ect.
what the hell are you talking about? you NEED to know these things, whether you think they inhibit your learning progress or not. you can't just watch a couple youtube videos and all of sudden become a biochemist.
You obviously need to know this shit, but wouldn't it be more beneficial to understand only a part of it, and think of every outcome? And then move on? Learning something that is already known limits the way you think.
I don't care what you say, This is true.
not really. science is for the most part quantifiable. thus, what you learn can be tested again and again for an expected outcome. wouldn't it be far more beneficial for you to learn all of it so you thoroughly understand the theories first? then, after you've mastered it, you can come up with your own theories.
btw, i really just need to tell you the gravitas of what you're doing. if you step into a lab with that kind of attitude, no one will ever take you seriously. if you think you can just learn half of organic chemistry so you can just make up your own mumbo jumbo, you are sadly mistaken. you might as well just do all of your research on your own because no one in their right mind would ever waste any of their grant money trying to incorporate your skills into their research. sorry, brah.
Mumbo jumbo. So me proposing that learning in a literal way with only the complex systems, the questions, asking the questions a thousand times and then moving on and learning from what you have questioned yourself is mumble jumbo?
Im pretty sure many scientific breakthroughs have been in questioning something, someone has not. How is this blasphemy? I do not want to fall back on other peoples science, as it may be wrong.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
#14191619 - 03/27/11 11:11 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well, some autistic boy at age 12 is now an astrophysics researcher who claims to have improved upon Einstein's theory of relativity.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14182520/page/2
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
#14191631 - 03/27/11 11:13 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Take the GRE in chemistry or biology, I think they offer specialized tests in those majors. IF you get literally a perfect, you may be able to convince some school to let you into a grad program without an undergrad degree.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
#14191634 - 03/27/11 11:14 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Janamil said: Mumbo jumbo. So me proposing that learning in a literal way with only the complex systems, the questions, asking the questions a thousand times and then moving on and learning from what you have questioned yourself is mumble jumbo?
Im pretty sure many scientific breakthroughs have been in questioning something, someone has not. How is this blasphemy? I do not want to fall back on other peoples science, as it may be wrong.
you don't need to fallback on anything. but you do need to understand a theory in order to realize its fallacies. this is plain old common sense.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Chespirito]
#14191640 - 03/27/11 11:15 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Chespirito said: Take the GRE in chemistry or biology, I think they offer specialized tests in those majors. IF you get literally a perfect, you may be able to convince some school to let you into a grad program without an undergrad degree.
Thank you, that is what I have been looking for.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
#14191656 - 03/27/11 11:18 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well good luck. If you don't want to learn the existing theories in science than I imagine it will be pretty damn hard to pass a graduate level test on them. Just take some datura beforehand, its anti-chlorinergic properties should do the trick of regulatin' your chlorinergic system then you'll be like.... a god of science
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: meatcakeman]
#14191660 - 03/27/11 11:19 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Janamil said: Mumbo jumbo. So me proposing that learning in a literal way with only the complex systems, the questions, asking the questions a thousand times and then moving on and learning from what you have questioned yourself is mumble jumbo?
Im pretty sure many scientific breakthroughs have been in questioning something, someone has not. How is this blasphemy? I do not want to fall back on other peoples science, as it may be wrong.
you don't need to fallback on anything. but you do need to understand a theory in order to realize its fallacies. this is plain old common sense.
Common collective conscious, Neuroplasticity, ect. My brain is much more susceptible to "Wrong" as what I learn instantly becomes part of me, in a.. web of unconscious patterns and thoughts. Learning shit in easy terms is the wrong way to go. Most colleges will start off like that, as it should but I do not learn in this way.Quote:
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Janamil said: Mumbo jumbo. So me proposing that learning in a literal way with only the complex systems, the questions, asking the questions a thousand times and then moving on and learning from what you have questioned yourself is mumble jumbo?
Im pretty sure many scientific breakthroughs have been in questioning something, someone has not. How is this blasphemy? I do not want to fall back on other peoples science, as it may be wrong.
you don't need to fallback on anything. but you do need to understand a theory in order to realize its fallacies. this is plain old common sense.
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Janamil said: Mumbo jumbo. So me proposing that learning in a literal way with only the complex systems, the questions, asking the questions a thousand times and then moving on and learning from what you have questioned yourself is mumble jumbo?
Im pretty sure many scientific breakthroughs have been in questioning something, someone has not. How is this blasphemy? I do not want to fall back on other peoples science, as it may be wrong.
you don't need to fallback on anything. but you do need to understand a theory in order to realize its fallacies. this is plain old common sense.
I would rather make it my own theory, check it, See what I did wrong and move on. It allows you many different connections you would not learn by learning it backwards.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: twighead]
#14191675 - 03/27/11 11:22 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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twighead said: Well good luck. If you don't want to learn the existing theories in science than I imagine it will be pretty damn hard to pass a graduate level test on them. Just take some datura beforehand, its anti-chlorigenic properties should do the trick of regulatin' your chlorigenic system then you'll be like.... a god of science
Because almost a complete muscarinic antagonist will be the best thing -_-. My problem associated with nicotinic receptors, not muscarinic.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
#14191682 - 03/27/11 11:23 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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you are in utter self-denial, living in your own delusional hallucinations. i would feel bad for you if i cared.
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: Janamil]
#14191686 - 03/27/11 11:25 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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twighead said: Well good luck. If you don't want to learn the existing theories in science than I imagine it will be pretty damn hard to pass a graduate level test on them. Just take some datura beforehand, its anti-chlorigenic properties should do the trick of regulatin' your chlorigenic system then you'll be like.... a god of science
Because almost a complete muscarinic antagonist will be the best thing -_-. My problem associated with nicotinic receptors, not muscarinic.
Than take ibogaine
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Re: Fastest Degree Possible? No class, just tests? [Re: meatcakeman]
#14191693 - 03/27/11 11:26 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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meatcakeman said: you are in utter self-denial, living in your own delusional hallucinations. i would feel bad for you if i cared.
Is there any way I can ask questions without this BS? I dont understand why people must instantly assume this. Ive already discovered the cholienrgic tone of autism and that guy has been working on it for 20 years. It took me two, DXM logical deductions of muscle tone/skeleton and attention span. Using slight muscarinic receptor antaognists slightly have the same effect, but in a different sense.
Not only that, but I am almost completely intuition for psychology. I can understand someones psychology with an hour talk with them, or just by observing them. Its just the communication and inability to have my thoughts project into anything expressive that is the problem.
Im leaving this thread now, since this will turn into troll central soon.
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