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Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. * 2
    #14190409 - 03/27/11 03:35 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

If you'd rather have your mind blown yourself watch Paul McCartney Really is Dead - The Last Testament of George Harrison. I'm pretty sure it was on Netflix instant stream that we were watching it, but not positive. And sorry if this is old news to some of y'all. I'm 22 so I wasn't alive when this shit was going down.

Basically in 1966 Paul McCartney and John Lennon got in to an argument over lyrics and Paul stormed out of the studio. He died in a car crash via decapitation. Since they were high priority the intelligence agency had the band identify him and told them it must be kept secret because news of his death would cause hundreds of suicides (This was at the peak of their fame). So eventually what they do is have a tv show hold a McCartney look-a-like competition and the agency took one of the canidates and performed a series of surgeries to make him look exactly like Paul McCartney. They remained in the studio and obscurred their faces so that the fake Paul's scars and incompleteness would not be recognized. Some of his scars can clearly be seen in some of the pictures. That was breakthrough stuff at the time and because of the global tensions the band was sworn to secrecy under threat of death. Lennon felt terrible about it all and wanted to leave the fans clues so that when the truth was discovered they could say we were sworn to secrecy under threat of death and that they tried to tell the fans. The clues were left mainly in the form of album artwork , song lyrics, and backwards tracking messages on to albums.

Anyways the intelligence agency had been keeping an eye on them and found out about all of their clues and threatened them to stop it multiple times. Around that time some people had caught on and Rumors began to spread that McCartney was dead. The band, fearing for their lives, called the head guy at the intelligence agency who had been threatening them and told them they were going to call the whole thing a hoax and call an end to their band in 6 months. They produced one more album titled "The Beatles" and was all white. Despite the conformed album cover, they still put backwards trackings in it and one of em Lennon says "Fuck you Maxwell" - The name of the head guy in the agency. They all quickly went their seperate ways and the fake Paul began doing his own stuff because he had become accustomed to being Paul.

Lennon went to America and tried to keep a really high profile by being an activist and appearing insane on purpose so that he could discredit himself and hopefully take himself off of the radar. Paul's wife (who saw Paul die), demanded that the fake paul marry her in order for her to keep quiet. Fake Paul calls the head agency guy and a week later she is killed. Later John Lennon told the band members that he had thought enough time had passed, so he informed them that he had called the fake paul and told him of his plan to tell the world the truth. Shortly after... well... You know the rest.

Some time later some Rock n Roll magazine producers or some company or something got a package in the mail with no return adress from Britan. Inside were a tape recorder and 3 casettes. On it George Harrison tells the entire story and talks about every clue they gave out. Those people made the documentary I mentioned above. It goes through and shows all of em and there are SO many. After one documentary I saw the  Beatles in a completely different light and so many of their songs/lyrics make perfect sense.

If you don't believe me and need some proof look at this album cover


-Paul McCartney isn't real in this picture. It's the three remaining Beatles holding up a cardboard cutout of the real him.

-From the drum to the red flowers to the yellow flowers it spells "hear lies paul" with the trophy protruding through the "les" in Beatles being the "i". The whole scene is intended as his funeral - all the people in the backround are who Lennon thought Paul would have wanted at his funeral, and they all either were dead, portrayed death, or came close to death.

-The yellow flowers that spell Paul is in the shape of a bass guitar, and has 3 strings on it for the three remaining beatles. The girl on the right is holding a small white car that was the car that Paul died in, and is sitting on the angel of death with a driver glove on.



-On the left side there are 3 men dressed in white to signify the three true Beatles. "Faul" is wearing no shoes as a dead person would be and is holding a cigarette in his right hand which in britan at the time were called coffin nails. Also Paul was left handed and Faul was right handed. It took Faul some time to learn to play left handed and eventually when he went on his own he started playing right handed again.

-From Lennon back the dress signifies Jesus, A Mourner, Paul in the casket, and a grave digger.

-If you put a mirror through the middle of "Lonely Heart" on the drum it reads "1one1x he die" for 3 members being alive. The fourth being xed out because "he die". Also he died on November 9 so "1one" "IX" or 11-9.

-Faul is the only one not stepping with the same foot as everyone else.

-The line of cars makes a line through the fake Paul's head.

- The right side there is the black car that the Maxwell guy would pick them up in and and old man watching the fake beatles walk across the street.

There are plenty of other examples. Just look at the album covers and scrutinize McCartney's face and analyze the differences between what he's doing and what the rest of the band are doing.

Sorry this was way longer than I intended it to be. I just seriously had no idea about this like 5 hours ago.


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: NlightNme] * 3
    #14190415 - 03/27/11 03:37 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

What kind of crack are you smoking dude...
I read until you said "mccartney got decapitated" :facepalm:


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: Anthony917]
    #14190421 - 03/27/11 03:38 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Lol almost all of my friends believe this..


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: Anthony917]
    #14190425 - 03/27/11 03:39 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

LOL I watched that movie too, it made me laugh.  I didn't think it was supposed to be taken seriously, the line from the sheriff about him looking like a walrus was too much.


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: NlightNme] * 1
    #14190428 - 03/27/11 03:41 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

tl;dr, please summarize.


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: NlightNme]
    #14190429 - 03/27/11 03:41 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i called farce when it said the intelligence agency was concerned about suicide


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: Cherk]
    #14190433 - 03/27/11 03:43 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

anyways if Paul McCarnter is dead then who owns Micahel Jackson's songs?  The brits!  This isn't kosher with the UN I am sure of it.


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: Cherk] * 2
    #14190436 - 03/27/11 03:45 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

For some reason, I think anybody who buys this shit is a fucking moron. :shrug:


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: Cherk]
    #14190437 - 03/27/11 03:45 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Guys this is actually true... Every album that came after SGT pepper was just pre recorded stuff by the beatles from the early 60's... the white album, let it be, abbey road... all created in the early 60's :tongue:


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: danlennon3]
    #14190439 - 03/27/11 03:47 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

the only way is to find ho's that banged the real mccarntey and post-mortem mccarntney and compare their experiences


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: NlightNme]
    #14190441 - 03/27/11 03:47 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You know, you don't have to believe everything you read.


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: danlennon3]
    #14190442 - 03/27/11 03:48 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I forgot the Beatles existed and that I like them--gonna torrent Abbey Road. :thumbup:


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: Le_Canard]
    #14190461 - 03/27/11 03:56 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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You know, you don't have to believe everything you read.



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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: NlightNme]
    #14190478 - 03/27/11 04:10 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yah Paul is a Canadian Police Constable. Listen to the Klathuluu song backwards


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: MisterMuscaria]
    #14190480 - 03/27/11 04:11 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:lol:


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: Cherk]
    #14190490 - 03/27/11 04:18 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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i called farce when it said the intelligence agency was concerned about suicide




Yeah, that's pretty retarded


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: NlightNme]
    #14190501 - 03/27/11 04:22 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

This is all wrong. It is a well-known fact that the Beatles died of a LSD overdose administered by Ken Kesey when the Beatles were playing in California. The Merry Pranksters abducted the Beatles using Furthur, drove to Kesey's home and injected the Fab Four with >1100mgs each (yes, thats milligrams, not micrograms) of acid produced by Owsley (who, coincidentally, died earlier this month in a 'car accident', which was actually a hush-job by the Mossad to keep him from publishing this). Four new 'Beatles' were then recruited from the Merry Pranksters (two of them have been argued to be female!), and facial transplants were performed resulting in the new Beatles looking perfectly legit, since they had the actual faces of the old Beatles. You can tell now by the way 'McCartney's' face is aging currently; it's very obvious that time has taken its toll on the skin grafts he received. I expect him to completely disappear from the public eye within the following few months, as the farce won't stand much longer.

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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: koraks]
    #14190561 - 03/27/11 04:52 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Owsley Stanley died in my town two weeks ago. Justsayin'


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: Cerebral Hitman]
    #14190662 - 03/27/11 05:41 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

He maintained a diet of as much as possible animal protein. Lots of meat, eggs and dairy. He said it was extremely healthy. We'll never know now.


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: NlightNme]
    #14190701 - 03/27/11 05:56 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

So this guy was / is a government agent??:rotfl:   . . . . :peace:


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: NlightNme]
    #14190976 - 03/27/11 07:59 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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If you'd rather have your mind blown yourself watch Paul McCartney Really is Dead - The Last Testament of George Harrison. I'm pretty sure it was on Netflix instant stream that we were watching it, but not positive. And sorry if this is old news to some of y'all. I'm 22 so I wasn't alive when this shit was going down.

Basically in 1966 Paul McCartney and John Lennon got in to an argument over lyrics and Paul stormed out of the studio. He died in a car crash via decapitation. Since they were high priority the intelligence agency had the band identify him and told them it must be kept secret because news of his death would cause hundreds of suicides (This was at the peak of their fame). So eventually what they do is have a tv show hold a McCartney look-a-like competition and the agency took one of the canidates and performed a series of surgeries to make him look exactly like Paul McCartney. They remained in the studio and obscurred their faces so that the fake Paul's scars and incompleteness would not be recognized. Some of his scars can clearly be seen in some of the pictures. That was breakthrough stuff at the time and because of the global tensions the band was sworn to secrecy under threat of death. Lennon felt terrible about it all and wanted to leave the fans clues so that when the truth was discovered they could say we were sworn to secrecy under threat of death and that they tried to tell the fans. The clues were left mainly in the form of album artwork , song lyrics, and backwards tracking messages on to albums.

Anyways the intelligence agency had been keeping an eye on them and found out about all of their clues and threatened them to stop it multiple times. Around that time some people had caught on and Rumors began to spread that McCartney was dead. The band, fearing for their lives, called the head guy at the intelligence agency who had been threatening them and told them they were going to call the whole thing a hoax and call an end to their band in 6 months. They produced one more album titled "The Beatles" and was all white. Despite the conformed album cover, they still put backwards trackings in it and one of em Lennon says "Fuck you Maxwell" - The name of the head guy in the agency. They all quickly went their seperate ways and the fake Paul began doing his own stuff because he had become accustomed to being Paul.

Lennon went to America and tried to keep a really high profile by being an activist and appearing insane on purpose so that he could discredit himself and hopefully take himself off of the radar. Paul's wife (who saw Paul die), demanded that the fake paul marry her in order for her to keep quiet. Fake Paul calls the head agency guy and a week later she is killed. Later John Lennon told the band members that he had thought enough time had passed, so he informed them that he had called the fake paul and told him of his plan to tell the world the truth. Shortly after... well... You know the rest.

Some time later some Rock n Roll magazine producers or some company or something got a package in the mail with no return adress from Britan. Inside were a tape recorder and 3 casettes. On it George Harrison tells the entire story and talks about every clue they gave out. Those people made the documentary I mentioned above. It goes through and shows all of em and there are SO many. After one documentary I saw the  Beatles in a completely different light and so many of their songs/lyrics make perfect sense.

If you don't believe me and need some proof look at this album cover


-Paul McCartney isn't real in this picture. It's the three remaining Beatles holding up a cardboard cutout of the real him.

-From the drum to the red flowers to the yellow flowers it spells "hear lies paul" with the trophy protruding through the "les" in Beatles being the "i". The whole scene is intended as his funeral - all the people in the backround are who Lennon thought Paul would have wanted at his funeral, and they all either were dead, portrayed death, or came close to death.

-The yellow flowers that spell Paul is in the shape of a bass guitar, and has 3 strings on it for the three remaining beatles. The girl on the right is holding a small white car that was the car that Paul died in, and is sitting on the angel of death with a driver glove on.



-On the left side there are 3 men dressed in white to signify the three true Beatles. "Faul" is wearing no shoes as a dead person would be and is holding a cigarette in his right hand which in britan at the time were called coffin nails. Also Paul was left handed and Faul was right handed. It took Faul some time to learn to play left handed and eventually when he went on his own he started playing right handed again.

-From Lennon back the dress signifies Jesus, A Mourner, Paul in the casket, and a grave digger.

-If you put a mirror through the middle of "Lonely Heart" on the drum it reads "1one1x he die" for 3 members being alive. The fourth being xed out because "he die". Also he died on November 9 so "1one" "IX" or 11-9.

-Faul is the only one not stepping with the same foot as everyone else.

-The line of cars makes a line through the fake Paul's head.

- The right side there is the black car that the Maxwell guy would pick them up in and and old man watching the fake beatles walk across the street.

There are plenty of other examples. Just look at the album covers and scrutinize McCartney's face and analyze the differences between what he's doing and what the rest of the band are doing.

Sorry this was way longer than I intended it to be. I just seriously had no idea about this like 5 hours ago.




Well This has to be biggest load of shit I heard this year.

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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: NlightNme]
    #14191017 - 03/27/11 08:17 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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    #14191030 - 03/27/11 08:22 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: Poid]
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    #14191306 - 03/27/11 09:48 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: Ima Trooper]
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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: Devlish2]
    #14191429 - 03/27/11 10:29 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i tried to keep an open mind, read the whole thing, but once you get to the picture i gotta go "what the fuck are you talking about". I see NONE of that in the picture.  I guess there's a conspiracy theory for everything, along with people who believe it :facepalm:


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: bbl337]
    #14191439 - 03/27/11 10:31 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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i tried to keep an open mind, read the whole thing, but once you get to the picture i gotta go "what the fuck are you talking about". I see NONE of that in the picture.  I guess there's a conspiracy theory for everything, along with people who believe it :facepalm:




Yeah I did the same thing, the ONLY thing that I could see was the "lies" in the purported "here lies john".


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: bbl337]
    #14191445 - 03/27/11 10:32 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

and apparently the government hatched a master plan involving thousands of people to blow up the twin towers! Also, did you know that baraka Sadam hitler hussien Nobama is a kenyan muslim socialist?

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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: NlightNme]
    #14191537 - 03/27/11 10:55 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I interpret that album cover totally differently.  It is a funeral but not for paul, for all the beatles in their previous form, that's why they are all there to the left in their old image.  It's about the deaths of their egos (not surprising given the LSD heavy historical context).  And since the Beatles were so fucking far out and good, there are lots of unintended synchronicities in their work, like the red flowers and yellow ones spelling here lies [bass guitar].


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: NlightNme]
    #14191991 - 03/27/11 12:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i really don't like what the new paul did with wings.


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    #14192002 - 03/27/11 12:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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i really don't like what the new paul did with wings.




I really don't like much of anything paul ever did anywhere.  Lennon on the other hand...


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    #14192009 - 03/27/11 12:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I still can't believe that some pile of shit killed John Lennon.


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    #14192047 - 03/27/11 12:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I still can't believe that some pile of shit killed John Lennon.




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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: Anthony917]
    #14192226 - 03/27/11 01:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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What kind of crack are you smoking dude...
I read until you said "mccartney got decapitated" :facepalm:




:rolleyes:


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: g00ru]
    #14192316 - 03/27/11 01:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Lmao. Yeah guys... I'm retarded.

You guys have the definitive answers to all of lifes questions. And on that topic I would like to say that I really wish yall would let me in on Area 51 and who killed Kennedy.

Of course if you just read my post it is going to sound retarded. Watch that documentary if you truly consider yourself to have an open mind and see if you feel the same way after. The main part of the movie is just going through all of the different clues, and there are a little much for me to dismiss it as easily as you guys are.

The cover of Rubber Soul the words the shaped are like an upside down heart. The title was originally going to be Rubber Paul but Harrison warned it would be too dangerous. The photo is taken from the perspective of Paul's grave (his actual grave was where the camera was sitting).

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"..I'm looking through you, where did you go? I thought I knew you, what did I know. You don't look different but you have changed, I'm looking through you, you're not the same.." "..your lips are moving I can not hear, you don't sound different I've learned the game.." "..you were above me but not today, the only difference is you're down there.." "..you've changed, you've changed, you've changed.." (yep, he's down there in the grave)

Seriously... poke fun at my beliefs all you want... if there's one thing that history has shown us its that the best way to uncover truth is to pretend you have it and laugh at everyone else for trying to get to it.

All I'm saying is watch the documentary, I would estimate around 200+ pieces of evidence are given to show that the beatles were trying to tell this to their fans. If you can dismiss all of them as easily as you have dismissed the handful of ones I have repeated from memory then I will be impressed.


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: saxcidjazz]
    #14192329 - 03/27/11 01:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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LOL I watched that movie too, it made me laugh.  I didn't think it was supposed to be taken seriously, the line from the sheriff about him looking like a walrus was too much.




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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: NlightNme]
    #14192339 - 03/27/11 01:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Rubber Paul? :lolsy:

That's a horrible name for an album.

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    #14192368 - 03/27/11 01:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

you guys have no imagination. think about the implications if it were true, and shut up and ahve fun with this thread.



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    #14192384 - 03/27/11 01:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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you guys have no imagination. think about the implications if it were true, and shut up and ahve fun with this thread.



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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: NlightNme]
    #14192413 - 03/27/11 01:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

It's OK man. I think JFK is still alive in that secret room in a Texas hospital and Elvis was seen shopping at Walmart just last week. If some living are dead, some dead are living...:shrug: . . . :peace:


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: vinsue]
    #14192541 - 03/27/11 02:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Do they say where Paul is buried?  Maybe we could exhume him and verify.  No, he was probably conveniently cremated.  Looks like an entertaining documentary.  I'll have to check it out.  Maybe all dead rock stars are really alive and living as hermits.


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    #14192627 - 03/27/11 02:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Meet one of the living who should be long dead... ... :rockon: . . . :peace:


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: vinsue] * 1
    #14192642 - 03/27/11 02:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Meet one of the living who should be long dead... ... :rockon: . . . :peace:



:rofl:  He's actually a cyborg.  The British Intelligence agency removed his heart, lungs, and liver and replaced them with machinery.


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: vinsue]
    #14192649 - 03/27/11 02:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)



Yesterday and Today. As in the beatles were different yesterday than they are today (this was when Faul was getting the hang of everything and they could stop keeping him out of the public eye). For those of you laughing at the fact Paul was decapitated, just look at this picture. I'm not even gunna point things out about it.



True beatles dressed in white looking to the left. Faul looking straight at the camera with a bloody red background. Microphone to conceal scars. (a big part of the augmentation was his upper lip).



The walrus from the comment about how Paul looked dead. If you put a mirror through the "Beatles" here it would give you a phone number. 231-7148. This number at the time of the release would ring to the funeral home that they used for Paul. Maxwell found this clue and was furious by it.


This just all makes so much sense with the unexplained riff between the beatles towards their end. Namely why John and Paul weren't getting along. It really hit home for me when you look at Faul's reaction to John's death.

Can't believe this:


Faul didn't even show up to the induction of the Beatles in to the Rock and Roll hall of fame. When asked if they were upset about his absense they just said "Well I think it didn't matter, we had a great time without him."

Also I think it is a HUGE sign that Faul started giving up on trying to play left handed and later went back to playing right handed. Paul McCartney was fucking left handed... wtf.


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: NlightNme]
    #14192665 - 03/27/11 02:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Wow, this is quite possibly the most :tinfoil: I've read in a LONG time.  Possibly ever.


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    #14192668 - 03/27/11 02:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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The cover of Rubber Soul the words the shaped are like an upside down heart. The title was originally going to be Rubber Paul but Harrison warned it would be too dangerous. The photo is taken from the perspective of Paul's grave (his actual grave was where the camera was sitting).




wrong

McCartney conceived the album's title after overhearing a musician's description of Mick Jagger's singing style as "plastic soul". Lennon confirmed this in a 1970 interview with Rolling Stone, stating, "That was Paul's title... meaning English soul. Just a pun."[20] McCartney said a similar phrase, "Plastic soul, man. Plastic soul...", at the end of "I'm Down" take 1, on Anthology 2.


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: dynomite]
    #14192711 - 03/27/11 02:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'd love to keep posting more clues/proof but that would be time consuming as hell. It is on netflix instant stream so how about this:

Let's turn this in to a debate about this issue BASED UPON THAT DOCUMENTARY.

The only reason I say this is cause I completely understand that if, 2 days ago, I had opened a thread that said everything I just said I would laugh my ass off at that guy. Watch the documentary from start to end, and then if you still believe that it was all a hoax or conspiracy theory then that's awesome... let's talk about it.

There's just too much evidence in that to just explain away as simply as you guys are.

I understand the outragousness of this claim - but I would think this would be the type of community to look in to it, analyze, and discuss rather than just "BAHAHAH you're so dumb, those are the most retarded claims I've EVER heard on the shroomery." - I have been around here long enough to know that there is no way that's true. I at least have evidence to back my claims up. We all know how retarded people can be on here.


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: dynomite]
    #14192762 - 03/27/11 03:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

just because you are barely learning about this nearly 50 year old theory doesn't mean others are too.  it's old news, old bullshit news

did "Faul" get new vocal chords implanted? would he ever have anywhere near the song-writing ability as the real paul? of course not

famous people are rumored to die all the time. remember when geoff goldbloom died a few years ago? do all celebrities have imposters to stand in for them when they die?


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: NlightNme]
    #14192770 - 03/27/11 03:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Who gives a fucking shit? It all sounds like a crock of :shit: to me made up by people who have way to much free time on their hands. I think you should lay off the crack for a while and touch back down to earth.


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    #14192784 - 03/27/11 03:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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famous people are rumored to die all the time. remember when geoff goldbloom died a few years ago? do all celebrities have imposters to stand in for them when they die?



Like when Michael Jackson died?

Also, Elvis didn't die, he just went home...


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: mongo lloyd]
    #14192855 - 03/27/11 03:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Jesus Christ guys. I havn't even done ANY drugs for about a year, and have never done anything like crack :facepalm: I'm not some nutty enthusiast going around screaming at people to acknowledge that Paul McCartney died. If you read the first small paragraph of my original post you'll see me appologizing to any of you that this isn't news to and explaining why it is that I am just now finding out about it.

I saw that documentary and one of the things that I thought afterwards was - I wander if anyone on the shroomery would like to know this info that maybe didn't realize it (like I didn't) before. Sorry for trying to share questions with this community. I forgot we're all about definitively knowing the truth of everything and slander all those who don't have our objective truth.


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: mongo lloyd]
    #14192872 - 03/27/11 03:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I can see why this would be an interesting thing to ponder over.
If you're looking for clues though, you could probably make them.
Do I think it's impossible that something like this would ever happen? No. I'm sure way weirder things have happened.

Maybe in that video of Paul talking about John's death, he just didn't want to be confronted by media so that they could turn around and make big news and profit off of his reaction.

also, I think it's important here that when something comes up that seems to be a 'complete bullshit theory' that the THEORY is scrutinized and not the person presenting it.
Just because you completely disagree with something someone said doesn't make them a complete fucking idiot and there's no need to try and belittle someone else just because you don't agree with their point of view.

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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: NlightNme]
    #14192880 - 03/27/11 03:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Lennon killed because McCartney is dead(but it's a secret)

it makes for a good story but is completely irrational


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    #14192920 - 03/27/11 03:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: Johnny Depp]
    #14193033 - 03/27/11 03:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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You should check out "The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus"
It totally gives you clues about the conspiracy of Heath Ledger's death.




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    #14193052 - 03/27/11 03:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

oh, great now the thread subjecvt has changed!1


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    #14193056 - 03/27/11 03:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The difference is that the writer of the imaginarium movie never came out and said "Yeah we put in clues to give the audience an idea of something that we could not explicitly tell them" as is the case with Harrison's testament.

And again I don't care if not a single person on this forum finds this even remotely believable. Like I said I just wanted to share the information I had in case others were completely oblivious to it. From there people can do their own research and make their own opinions if they are so inclined. Im not trying to push this theory down other people's throats like some 9/11 truther. I think that should be the mentality of all posts on the shroomery.


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    #14193160 - 03/27/11 04:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i was interested.

i think it sounds devilishly interesting.


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    #14193336 - 03/27/11 04:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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The difference is that the writer of the imaginarium movie never came out and said "Yeah we put in clues to give the audience an idea of something that we could not explicitly tell them" as is the case with Harrison's testament.

And again I don't care if not a single person on this forum finds this even remotely believable. Like I said I just wanted to share the information I had in case others were completely oblivious to it. From there people can do their own research and make their own opinions if they are so inclined. Im not trying to push this theory down other people's throats like some 9/11 truther. I think that should be the mentality of all posts on the shroomery.




The thing is that this rumor is old and completely untrue.  It's an urban legend that people have not only disproved but have found the source of such rumors.  The Beatles are so steeped in myth that it's easy to point to artwork or lyrics and draw crazy conclusions but the fact is that you are finding out about this decades after it's been completely disproved. 

Paul McCartney even made an album cover mocking all the so-called clues from the Abbey Road cover, which I've already posted.

The reason no one is taking you seriously is because there is nothing to take seriously. 

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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: amilibertine]
    #14193385 - 03/27/11 05:07 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

There's a large difference between being open minded and believing a bunch of cockameme like this.


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    #14193386 - 03/27/11 05:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Quote:

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The difference is that the writer of the imaginarium movie never came out and said "Yeah we put in clues to give the audience an idea of something that we could not explicitly tell them" as is the case with Harrison's testament.

And again I don't care if not a single person on this forum finds this even remotely believable. Like I said I just wanted to share the information I had in case others were completely oblivious to it. From there people can do their own research and make their own opinions if they are so inclined. Im not trying to push this theory down other people's throats like some 9/11 truther. I think that should be the mentality of all posts on the shroomery.




The thing is that this rumor is old and completely untrue.  It's an urban legend that people have not only disproved but have found the source of such rumors.  The Beatles are so steeped in myth that it's easy to point to artwork or lyrics and draw crazy conclusions but the fact is that you are finding out about this decades after it's been completely disproved. 

Paul McCartney even made an album cover mocking all the so-called clues from the Abbey Road cover, which I've already posted.

The reason no one is taking you seriously is because there is nothing to take seriously. 

Paul McCartney is alive and well and everyone knows it.




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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: propensity]
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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: orison]
    #14193505 - 03/27/11 05:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Why the fuck is this thread still on page 1?

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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: Hajnal]
    #14193558 - 03/27/11 05:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Charles Manson thought Helter Skelter, among other Beatles songs, was about the impending apocalyptic race war and ended up murdering people in order to incite it. You can look at something 1000 different ways but there is the reasonable, conclusive way to look at something and the horrendously retarded batshit insane way of looking at something.


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: gzuf]
    #14194933 - 03/27/11 09:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

We all have our own opinions and that's the way it should be. I'm sorry if all of this is outlandishly retarded to any of you... I feel like you guys think that I'm offended about something when I'm not.

And just for clarity on my part - you guys who are saying this is old as shit and has been disproven for years I have 2 questions:

1) Did you watch the movie?

2) Are you certain that the tapes being sent by George Harrison are fake? (I'm not trying to prove a point by asking this... as I just found out about all of this yesterday... I'm just curious. Couldn't find anywhere online debunking those tapes)


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: NlightNme]
    #14195247 - 03/27/11 11:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_29k8mzEqTBQ/SBu26_RyVfI/AAAAAAAABBg/jFFSVVFWNJ8/s1600-h/Lennon_Satan.jpg

Don't know how prolific masonic symbols was back in 67, but here is lennon and "Faul" Mcartney throwing up two different symbols


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    #14195440 - 03/27/11 11:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'm actually going to watch this.

I like shit like this, fantasy or reality. Tho I dont really buy it, I dont mind willfully suspending my disbelief for a bit of entertainment


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: Azure Essence]
    #14195965 - 03/28/11 01:52 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I will say, it's a very convincing documentary. But the 'george harrison tapes' are a little TOOO documentary....y..  It's as if someone if purposfully narrating this film, not like the film was thrown together over a spoken account. That and the little beginning bit about getting the tapes was a bit cheesy and fake looking, but other than that this if a really amusing watch.

It certainly adds up to some really weird conclusions. Just all the bits about the CD covers and how Paul is always kind of like the odd one out, it's a little consistantly strange.


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: Azure Essence]
    #14195971 - 03/28/11 01:54 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I watched the documentary as well and i cant find fault with it..it made some good points...but people can believe what they wish...anyways the documentary is "Paul McCartney really is dead" sub titled "the last testament of george harrison" if you havent seen it give it a look...interesting...im on the fence about the whole thing but i keep an open mind about it.
I cant claim its bullshit like everyone else cuz I dont know. and frankly neither do the nay sayers.


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    #14196047 - 03/28/11 02:20 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Exactly no one knows. I was just so mind blown cause my roommate was like hey we're watching a documentary about the beatles wanna join and it turned out to be that which was the first I had even heard of that theory. So the whole time I was like wait what the fuck...


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    #14196115 - 03/28/11 02:41 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I feel like this was something I heard about before, but could find way more info on it before. I seem to remember them even INTENTIONALLY putting in messages as a joke to the whole thing, and I thought about that a lot watching this, but I cant seem to find anything alluding to that anymore. But it would explain a lot of this, but all the same it's very interesting and creepy, and I find myself more and more guessing about it, haha

And there seems to be a LOT of resentment towards paul by Harrison and Lennon near the end of the beatles. And I swear in the interview near the end Harrison is actually referring to paul as faul thru out. I wasnt sure at first, but once he says another word starting with 'f' and you hear the gently hiss it makes as opposed to the 'p's, and he's certainly not calling him paul.

And what the fuck DID happen to lennon? just too much acid or what?


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: Azure Essence]
    #14196175 - 03/28/11 03:06 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The good ol Paul McCartney death conspiracy.
Check out officiallypronounceddead.com.
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    #14196265 - 03/28/11 03:59 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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    #14196268 - 03/28/11 04:09 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I really dont like what the new paul did with wings.




Are you serious!?  I love pauls solowork,
But my first beatles album was the white album,
which pretty much spelled out what the solo beatles
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    #14196271 - 03/28/11 04:15 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I really dont like what the new paul did with wings.




Are you serious!?  I love pauls solowork,
But my first beatles album was the white album,
which pretty much spelled out what the solo beatles
would be doing, and I LOVE that album.




You actually like Pauls solo work?

I'm amazed

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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: propensity]
    #14196286 - 03/28/11 04:28 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I LOVE Ram :laugh:
But I also love eating fungis and going to see scary movies.

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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: Todcasil]
    #14196323 - 03/28/11 04:49 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

So how come every picture I see of Paul McCartney
when he's older, I mean EVERY one shows him playing
left handed?

Also my brother Drewston got to see Paul live about 1 and
a half years ago and he said he was playing left handed AND
he sounded just like himself when he sang some of the older
beatles songs.

I don't care who anyone thinks he is, but he is Paul fucking McCartney
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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: Azure Essence]
    #14196364 - 03/28/11 05:22 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Azure Essence said:
I feel like this was something I heard about before, but could find way more info on it before. I seem to remember them even INTENTIONALLY putting in messages as a joke to the whole thing, and I thought about that a lot watching this, but I cant seem to find anything alluding to that anymore. But it would explain a lot of this, but all the same it's very interesting and creepy, and I find myself more and more guessing about it, haha

And there seems to be a LOT of resentment towards paul by Harrison and Lennon near the end of the beatles. And I swear in the interview near the end Harrison is actually referring to paul as faul thru out. I wasnt sure at first, but once he says another word starting with 'f' and you hear the gently hiss it makes as opposed to the 'p's, and he's certainly not calling him paul.

And what the fuck DID happen to lennon? just too much acid or what?



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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: Todcasil]
    #14196450 - 03/28/11 06:44 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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And what the fuck DID happen to lennon? just too much acid or what?
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he was shot and killed by the cia







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So how come every picture I see of Paul McCartney
when he's older, I mean EVERY one shows him playing
left handed?

Also my brother Drewston got to see Paul live about 1 and
a half years ago and he said he was playing left handed AND
he sounded just like himself when he sang some of the older
beatles songs.

I don't care who anyone thinks he is, but he is Paul fucking McCartney
to me and I think he kicks every ones effing ass at rock and roll.

:foshizzle:





well the op didnt reveal the full truth. he only alluded to 'the scars' and the decapitation.

the truth is that after he was decapitated the head was put in an ice bucket and rushed to er, the body was too mangled to be revived.

as we all know in 1970 the first head transplant had been performed on a monkey (see video below for details).

using these groundbreaking procedures pauls head was grafted onto the body of what has only been speculated to belong to a man who frequented the hospital known only as 'hungry harry'. this is of course only speculation but harry was never seen again after this day.

obviously this was a highly unethical practice at the time and so had to be immediately hushed up. this explains pauls subsequent difficulty in 'relearning' his left hand usage (the body was said to be right), as well as his notable poor odor, gain in weight and decline in his career.

it has been further suggested that harrys illegitimate son grew up disdaining Lennon's key role in orchestrating the operation and plotted an elaborate revenge which was carried out on Monday, 8 December 1980.

:sadyes:

here is a video of the monkey head transplant (warning fuckin disturbing inhumane and cruel).


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    #14196479 - 03/28/11 06:58 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I'd love to keep posting more clues/proof but that would be time consuming as hell. It is on netflix instant stream so how about this:

Let's turn this in to a debate about this issue BASED UPON THAT DOCUMENTARY.

The only reason I say this is cause I completely understand that if, 2 days ago, I had opened a thread that said everything I just said I would laugh my ass off at that guy. Watch the documentary from start to end, and then if you still believe that it was all a hoax or conspiracy theory then that's awesome... let's talk about it.

There's just too much evidence in that to just explain away as simply as you guys are.

I understand the outragousness of this claim - but I would think this would be the type of community to look in to it, analyze, and discuss rather than just "BAHAHAH you're so dumb, those are the most retarded claims I've EVER heard on the shroomery." - I have been around here long enough to know that there is no way that's true. I at least have evidence to back my claims up. We all know how retarded people can be on here.




You are such a fool. Just because something presents itself like a documentary doesn't mean its all truth. You have no idea what could of possibly happened so stop pretending like you have all the answers.

Its like people who watch What the Bleep? and think they understand the universe. Look up Ramtha and the comments of the scientists in the film. Many had what they said edited and shortened so it would mesh with what Ramtha wanted to portray. Almost everyone in it is in her cult.

Don't we have a forum for people who accept pseudoscience as truth? Isn't it the conspiracy forum?


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    #14196756 - 03/28/11 08:49 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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[Yesterday and Today. As in the beatles were different yesterday than they are today (this was when Faul was getting the hang of everything and they could stop keeping him out of the public eye). For those of you laughing at the fact Paul was decapitated, just look at this picture.




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    #14197059 - 03/28/11 10:16 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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    #14197409 - 03/28/11 11:49 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Azure Essence said:
I feel like this was something I heard about before, but could find way more info on it before. I seem to remember them even INTENTIONALLY putting in messages as a joke to the whole thing, and I thought about that a lot watching this, but I cant seem to find anything alluding to that anymore. But it would explain a lot of this, but all the same it's very interesting and creepy, and I find myself more and more guessing about it, haha

And there seems to be a LOT of resentment towards paul by Harrison and Lennon near the end of the beatles. And I swear in the interview near the end Harrison is actually referring to paul as faul thru out. I wasnt sure at first, but once he says another word starting with 'f' and you hear the gently hiss it makes as opposed to the 'p's, and he's certainly not calling him paul.

And what the fuck DID happen to lennon? just too much acid or what?




Yeah Harrison did call him Faul twice in that interview. I had to rewind it for that part to make sure. And there is another new caster or something who called him faul a couple of times in one of the clips. Guessing it's just some guy who bought in to the theory when it first came around and was calling him Faul under this presumption. The crazy part was Harrison calling him Faul... wtf.

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So how come every picture I see of Paul McCartney
when he's older, I mean EVERY one shows him playing
left handed?

Also my brother Drewston got to see Paul live about 1 and
a half years ago and he said he was playing left handed AND
he sounded just like himself when he sang some of the older
beatles songs.

I don't care who anyone thinks he is, but he is Paul fucking McCartney
to me and I think he kicks every ones effing ass at rock and roll.

:foshizzle:





Of course he didn't switch to just right handed especially in public; that would be stupid. I believe it was more for photos like this and some studio work. And according to the movie/theory, while Faul was getting his surgeries and learning how to play left handed he was undergoing voice therapy to match up accents and whatnot. Meanwhile Lennon said he had about 50 songs that he and McCartney wrote that he could release for a while until Faul was ready for the spotlight (Y&T).
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I'd love to keep posting more clues/proof but that would be time consuming as hell. It is on netflix instant stream so how about this:

Let's turn this in to a debate about this issue BASED UPON THAT DOCUMENTARY.

The only reason I say this is cause I completely understand that if, 2 days ago, I had opened a thread that said everything I just said I would laugh my ass off at that guy. Watch the documentary from start to end, and then if you still believe that it was all a hoax or conspiracy theory then that's awesome... let's talk about it.

There's just too much evidence in that to just explain away as simply as you guys are.

I understand the outragousness of this claim - but I would think this would be the type of community to look in to it, analyze, and discuss rather than just "BAHAHAH you're so dumb, those are the most retarded claims I've EVER heard on the shroomery." - I have been around here long enough to know that there is no way that's true. I at least have evidence to back my claims up. We all know how retarded people can be on here.




You are such a fool. Just because something presents itself like a documentary doesn't mean its all truth. You have no idea what could of possibly happened so stop pretending like you have all the answers.

Its like people who watch What the Bleep? and think they understand the universe. Look up Ramtha and the comments of the scientists in the film. Many had what they said edited and shortened so it would mesh with what Ramtha wanted to portray. Almost everyone in it is in her cult.

Don't we have a forum for people who accept pseudoscience as truth? Isn't it the conspiracy forum?




I never said it was all truth. Even in the movie they tell their doubts. They said they sent the tapes to 3 different digital phorensic labs to have them authenticated but all were inconclusive. It does not bother me at all that you think I'm a fool. You and many others in this thread seem to think I accept everything at face value. I'm a psychologist... I can look at any seemingly scientific study and tell you the inadequacies of it and the leaps made in their statements that they are presenting as fact. I completely understand how you think I'm a fool because I entertain the idea of this theory but in my mind it's just as foolish to accept that it isn't true as it is to accept that it is true. As has been said many times: No one knows.

And you're right, clearly this should be moved from The Pub - "A place for laid-back discussion on any topic." It doesn't seem to fit in to that category.

Conspiracy theory threads, if true, have tremendous and global impact. If this theory is true its like... dam that's crazy. Not to mention as I've stated many times the main reason I posted this was just to inform anyone (such as I was a couple of days ago) who was completely oblivious to this theory that it was even out there; through the medium of the movie that introduced me to it. The pub seemed like the most appropriate place :shrug:


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: NlightNme]
    #14197460 - 03/28/11 12:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

It's very easy to flip a picture.  Especially one with no writing in it.

Just step back and think about this. 

You have The Beatles, the most famous musical group ever.

You have Lennon/McCartney the most successful songwriting partnership ever.

You have McCartney who sings and has a very good and very distinct voice that millions around the world know and love.

Then you have this "Faul" who I guess is some kinda of six-million-dollar-man who looks EXACTLY like Paul and sounds EXACTLY like Paul and plays many instruments very well EXACTLY like Paul.

And this happened in the early 60's.  They built this new Faul in the early 60's and did such a good job that he keeps fooling millions of people around the world by singing some of the most well known songs to these people at his continually sold-out tours.

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    #14197467 - 03/28/11 12:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

No i Meant what the fuck happened to him to turn into such a fucking wacko. I know lennon was killed, but he got a lot cookier first


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: Azure Essence]
    #14197480 - 03/28/11 12:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I wonder what Ringo has to say about all of this.


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: Azure Essence]
    #14197544 - 03/28/11 12:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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No i Meant what the fuck happened to him to turn into such a fucking wacko. I know lennon was killed, but he got a lot cookier first




Probably because of drug use, insane worldwide fame, and tons of money.

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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: biff]
    #14197881 - 03/28/11 01:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I wonder what Ringo has to say about all of this.




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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: amilibertine]
    #14197911 - 03/28/11 01:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Even if it is a new Paul, he arguably is the real Paul McCartney if he's been doing it for 45 years (including every solo album).

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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: Todcasil]
    #14197974 - 03/28/11 01:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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So how come every picture I see of Paul McCartney
when he's older, I mean EVERY one shows him playing
left handed?

Also my brother Drewston got to see Paul live about 1 and
a half years ago and he said he was playing left handed AND
he sounded just like himself when he sang some of the older
beatles songs.

I don't care who anyone thinks he is, but he is Paul fucking McCartney
to me and I think he kicks every ones effing ass at rock and roll.

:foshizzle:





i was going to say....i saw him when he toured two years ago at citifield in NYC.  he sounded great and exactly like paul from the 60's when he sang the beatles stuff.

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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: biff]
    #14198194 - 03/28/11 02:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I wonder what Ringo has to say about all of this.



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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: Todcasil]
    #14198291 - 03/28/11 02:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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claraclairvoyant
I really dont like what the new paul did with wings.




Are you serious!?  I love pauls solowork,
But my first beatles album was the white album,
which pretty much spelled out what the solo beatles
would be doing, and I LOVE that album.




Ram is an awesome album :thumbup:


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    #14199658 - 03/28/11 07:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Todcasil said:
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claraclairvoyant
I really dont like what the new paul did with wings.




Are you serious!?  I love pauls solowork,
But my first beatles album was the white album,
which pretty much spelled out what the solo beatles
would be doing, and I LOVE that album.




Ram is an awesome album :thumbup:




Rams my favorite :laugh:

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    #14199794 - 03/28/11 07:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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All the Beatles solo stuff sucks. Apart from some of Georges.




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    #14200215 - 03/28/11 08:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)


you see the pick guard? it's on the top, that means it's being played backwards. so.....

either it's a guitar "faul" was using to learn how to play left-handed on, and this picture was taken candidly while he was sneaking in some right-handed playing. because of course anyone who can when a paul mccartney loo-a-like contest can also play guitar, right?

or

it is a right handed guitar being play left-handed, in a reversed picture





the dumbest part of this whole thing is why would they kill john lennon so much later in life instead of killing "faul" after the beatles broke up?  wouldn't "faul" be more of a liability?


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: dynomite]
    #14200387 - 03/28/11 09:10 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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the dumbest part of this whole thing is why would they kill john lennon so much later in life instead of killing "faul" after the beatles broke up?  wouldn't "faul" be more of a liability?




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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: dynomite]
    #14200405 - 03/28/11 09:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

apparently there are forums for both sides of the debate

PIDers(Paul Is Dead) seem to resort to tampering with evidenece


PIAers wade through and debate PID nonsense


this just isn't a conspiracy i can get behind:shrug:


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: dynomite]
    #14200435 - 03/28/11 09:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

TBH I never really cared for the Beatles. They've got some catchy tunes and all, but to me their greatest contribution to society was their statement, "We are more popular than Jesus."


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14200678 - 03/28/11 09:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

well, listen... music history tells us... that beatles kicked ass... so hard... they took their band and made it into a psychedelic masterpiece... and the thing is they ALWAYS kept their standard of musical composure (and not to mention, literally, their ability as well) rising, from album to album eventually releasing crazy sounding experimental albums like Revolver, SGT Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band, the White Album and Abbey Road... which of course was recorded the last. Out of all their albums... LOOK IT UP :tinfoil:


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #14200713 - 03/28/11 09:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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well, listen... music history tells us... that beatles kicked ass... so hard... they took their band and made it into a psychedelic masterpiece... and the thing is they ALWAYS kept their standard of musical composure (and not to mention, literally, their ability as well) rising, from album to album eventually releasing crazy sounding experimental albums like Revolver, SGT Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band, the White Album and Abbey Road... which of course was recorded the last. Out of all their albums... LOOK IT UP :tinfoil:




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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: Devlish2]
    #14200769 - 03/28/11 10:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

but Love is better in my opinion, though. :smirk:

seriously... i thought they were way more... "naturally" out there...


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #14200916 - 03/28/11 10:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

did any1 else find the title of this thread to be in bad taste? :hehehe:

edit- oh wait sorry he was shot in the back... my bad


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: akira_akuma]
    #14201856 - 03/29/11 01:46 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I dunno, I always liked Country Joe & The Fish better than the Beatles, found them to be far more psychedelic from the very beginning.

Again, not saying the Beatles are bad or anything. I think they're great. Still though, a bit overrated.


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14202671 - 03/29/11 08:22 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Okay well I read through everyone's posts and still was curious to see the movie for myself. I like to be able to look at things on my own, instead of just taking the general consensus as fact...I love things like this, riddles/puzzles/etc. that are finely constructed and extremely intricate, as this whole thing seems to be.

So regarding discussion on the movie;

I did read up a little more on it and before the movie started, I had read some of the Netflix reviews. Specifically one said that Rubber Soul was released in 1965, a year before Paul supposedly died, but in the movie it is explained as if the record was the first one after Paul's death. I looked that up and it was released in 1965...so going into it I was a bit skeptical.

I had a few other things pop into my mind as I was watching the movie.
1. the recording sounded too clear to be recorded on a mini-cassette recorder. It should have had some fading in and out of the sound as he was talking I would think. I read a review that brought up some points I had not thought of. The voice sounds young, so is it an actor interpreting the actual recordings? It doesn't sound like an older man in the hospital. There are no outside noises as would be expected on a hand held recording, especially in the hospital (people walking by, machines beeping or buzzing, etc.) Also that the recording seemed to have dramatic pauses that fit right in with the movie...

2. When they said that the whole reason for the cover-up was so that hundreds or thousands of girls would commit suicide if they found out Paul was dead - seemed WAY too out there for me...I just really had a hard time with that.

HOWEVER

I found that the words to the Beatles songs were really weird and did have a lot of death imagery. Also the parts on the album cover art was really fun to watch. I think this movie complied all the work of thousands of Beatles fans over the years in regards to this Paul is Dead thing, and put it together all in one place. I thought it was pretty fun to watch for that alone.

The interviews with George, he was DEFINITELY calling Paul, "Faul" - WTF is that?

And the Backwards Masking stuff - Why were the Beatles putting all that stuff in their albums???? As in - why put things in there like with the "death" and negativity imagery? Seems really weird!

I had fun with the movie, and got to see a really interesting viewpoint of the Beatles :smile:


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    #14202724 - 03/29/11 08:51 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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dynomite said:

you see the pick guard? it's on the top, that means it's being played backwards. so.....

either it's a guitar "faul" was using to learn how to play left-handed on, and this picture was taken candidly while he was sneaking in some right-handed playing. because of course anyone who can when a paul mccartney loo-a-like contest can also play guitar, right?

or

it is a right handed guitar being play left-handed, in a reversed picture





the dumbest part of this whole thing is why would they kill john lennon so much later in life instead of killing "faul" after the beatles broke up?  wouldn't "faul" be more of a liability?



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I feel like this was something I heard about before, but could find way more info on it before. I seem to remember them even INTENTIONALLY putting in messages as a joke to the whole thing, and I thought about that a lot watching this, but I cant seem to find anything alluding to that anymore. But it would explain a lot of this, but all the same it's very interesting and creepy, and I find myself more and more guessing about it, haha

And there seems to be a LOT of resentment towards paul by Harrison and Lennon near the end of the beatles. And I swear in the interview near the end Harrison is actually referring to paul as faul thru out. I wasnt sure at first, but once he says another word starting with 'f' and you hear the gently hiss it makes as opposed to the 'p's, and he's certainly not calling him paul.

And what the fuck DID happen to lennon? just too much acid or what?




Yeah Harrison did call him Faul twice in that interview. I had to rewind it for that part to make sure. And there is another new caster or something who called him faul a couple of times in one of the clips. Guessing it's just some guy who bought in to the theory when it first came around and was calling him Faul under this presumption. The crazy part was Harrison calling him Faul... wtf.

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So how come every picture I see of Paul McCartney
when he's older, I mean EVERY one shows him playing
left handed?

Also my brother Drewston got to see Paul live about 1 and
a half years ago and he said he was playing left handed AND
he sounded just like himself when he sang some of the older
beatles songs.

I don't care who anyone thinks he is, but he is Paul fucking McCartney
to me and I think he kicks every ones effing ass at rock and roll.

:foshizzle:





Of course he didn't switch to just right handed especially in public; that would be stupid. I believe it was more for photos like this and some studio work. And according to the movie/theory, while Faul was getting his surgeries and learning how to play left handed he was undergoing voice therapy to match up accents and whatnot. Meanwhile Lennon said he had about 50 songs that he and McCartney wrote that he could release for a while until Faul was ready for the spotlight (Y&T).
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I'd love to keep posting more clues/proof but that would be time consuming as hell. It is on netflix instant stream so how about this:

Let's turn this in to a debate about this issue BASED UPON THAT DOCUMENTARY.

The only reason I say this is cause I completely understand that if, 2 days ago, I had opened a thread that said everything I just said I would laugh my ass off at that guy. Watch the documentary from start to end, and then if you still believe that it was all a hoax or conspiracy theory then that's awesome... let's talk about it.

There's just too much evidence in that to just explain away as simply as you guys are.

I understand the outragousness of this claim - but I would think this would be the type of community to look in to it, analyze, and discuss rather than just "BAHAHAH you're so dumb, those are the most retarded claims I've EVER heard on the shroomery." - I have been around here long enough to know that there is no way that's true. I at least have evidence to back my claims up. We all know how retarded people can be on here.




You are such a fool. Just because something presents itself like a documentary doesn't mean its all truth. You have no idea what could of possibly happened so stop pretending like you have all the answers.

Its like people who watch What the Bleep? and think they understand the universe. Look up Ramtha and the comments of the scientists in the film. Many had what they said edited and shortened so it would mesh with what Ramtha wanted to portray. Almost everyone in it is in her cult.

Don't we have a forum for people who accept pseudoscience as truth? Isn't it the conspiracy forum?




I never said it was all truth. Even in the movie they tell their doubts. They said they sent the tapes to 3 different digital phorensic labs to have them authenticated but all were inconclusive. It does not bother me at all that you think I'm a fool. You and many others in this thread seem to think I accept everything at face value. I'm a psychologist... I can look at any seemingly scientific study and tell you the inadequacies of it and the leaps made in their statements that they are presenting as fact. I completely understand how you think I'm a fool because I entertain the idea of this theory but in my mind it's just as foolish to accept that it isn't true as it is to accept that it is true. As has been said many times: No one knows.

And you're right, clearly this should be moved from The Pub - "A place for laid-back discussion on any topic." It doesn't seem to fit in to that category.

Conspiracy theory threads, if true, have tremendous and global impact. If this theory is true its like... dam that's crazy. Not to mention as I've stated many times the main reason I posted this was just to inform anyone (such as I was a couple of days ago) who was completely oblivious to this theory that it was even out there; through the medium of the movie that introduced me to it. The pub seemed like the most appropriate place :shrug:



Bro, since you're a "psychologist" I'll throw this one at you. I am an INTP, I most certainly do not take things at face value, I need proof and facts. You have failed to deliver any of this. All you have presented is the typical ohh play these tracks backwards crap. I'm sorry but nothing you have provided is legitimate information. Where are these documents? You know, nevermind.

I am not going to waste anymore of my time with this thread.


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    #14205471 - 03/29/11 07:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

haha! i love it when people are about to serve people and they start the sentence off with bro! its the best. the broternity are proud of you  brosephine! :lol:


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    #14205842 - 03/29/11 08:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The same thing happened to tupac. :thumbdown:


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: dwpineal]
    #14205988 - 03/29/11 08:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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dwpineal said:
Okay well I read through everyone's posts and still was curious to see the movie for myself. I like to be able to look at things on my own, instead of just taking the general consensus as fact...I love things like this, riddles/puzzles/etc. that are finely constructed and extremely intricate, as this whole thing seems to be.

So regarding discussion on the movie;

I did read up a little more on it and before the movie started, I had read some of the Netflix reviews. Specifically one said that Rubber Soul was released in 1965, a year before Paul supposedly died, but in the movie it is explained as if the record was the first one after Paul's death. I looked that up and it was released in 1965...so going into it I was a bit skeptical.

I had a few other things pop into my mind as I was watching the movie.
1. the recording sounded too clear to be recorded on a mini-cassette recorder. It should have had some fading in and out of the sound as he was talking I would think. I read a review that brought up some points I had not thought of. The voice sounds young, so is it an actor interpreting the actual recordings? It doesn't sound like an older man in the hospital. There are no outside noises as would be expected on a hand held recording, especially in the hospital (people walking by, machines beeping or buzzing, etc.) Also that the recording seemed to have dramatic pauses that fit right in with the movie...

2. When they said that the whole reason for the cover-up was so that hundreds or thousands of girls would commit suicide if they found out Paul was dead - seemed WAY too out there for me...I just really had a hard time with that.

HOWEVER

I found that the words to the Beatles songs were really weird and did have a lot of death imagery. Also the parts on the album cover art was really fun to watch. I think this movie complied all the work of thousands of Beatles fans over the years in regards to this Paul is Dead thing, and put it together all in one place. I thought it was pretty fun to watch for that alone.

The interviews with George, he was DEFINITELY calling Paul, "Faul" - WTF is that?

And the Backwards Masking stuff - Why were the Beatles putting all that stuff in their albums???? As in - why put things in there like with the "death" and negativity imagery? Seems really weird!

I had fun with the movie, and got to see a really interesting viewpoint of the Beatles :smile:





I don't see why writing about death is weird at all seeing how it's the only thing in life that is assured.  Plus the death of their manager I'm sure had a big impact on everything from the White album forward.

As far as the backwards masking in their recordings goes they were just always experimenting in the studio.  In fact they recorded the very first backwards sounds ever heard on an album, the song is "I'm Only Sleeping" from Revolver and it's George Harrison who came up with it and recorded it for the song.  It's a backwards guitar and it's in several parts of the song.

As far as the thousands of fans committing suicide if they found out about Paul being dead, it sounds crazy because it is crazy.  The whole thing sounds unbelievable because it is utterly insane. 

It truly is so "X-files" that I can just see Mulder and Scully chasing down Paul (sorry "Faul") McCartney and them pulling off his surgically enhanced face to find out that he's really Brian Wilson.  They would then discover that Wilson was the murderer, that he killed Paul because he was jealous that the Beatles were sill writing awesome music while the Beach Boys were not.  Thus he got the best of both worlds.  After working with a multitude of expert voice-trainers and plastic surgeons his plan was complete.  Unfortunately he didn't realize the Beatles were on their way to breaking up and that he was about to be touring for the next 40 years playing all his goofy love songs.

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    #14206193 - 03/29/11 09:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Oh I saw this movie the other day just cause nothing else to watch. But after watching this I believe the documentary. I agree that it must of been a british actor doing the voice over, most likely cause the real recording was too fuzzy.
I also think that due to the fact that this was in the 60s things were alot different mentally towards everything, I think its likely that they were trying to prevent mass suicide, I mean have you seen girls that just go retardley insane over Justin Beiber whos possibly the gayest kid I've ever seen complimented by shitty music, back then it was beatles but way crazier, so how is keeping it secret for this sake so unbelievable.
That backward record shit was freaky, but you gotta here that too believe it. But its pretty much perfectly clear whats being said. Always it is referencing Paul.
Government tactics of making some fat ass loser to kill john lennon I just don't see why thats so hard to believe either.
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    #14209824 - 03/30/11 02:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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dwpineal said:
Okay well I read through everyone's posts and still was curious to see the movie for myself. I like to be able to look at things on my own, instead of just taking the general consensus as fact...I love things like this, riddles/puzzles/etc. that are finely constructed and extremely intricate, as this whole thing seems to be.

So regarding discussion on the movie;

I did read up a little more on it and before the movie started, I had read some of the Netflix reviews. Specifically one said that Rubber Soul was released in 1965, a year before Paul supposedly died, but in the movie it is explained as if the record was the first one after Paul's death. I looked that up and it was released in 1965...so going into it I was a bit skeptical.

I had a few other things pop into my mind as I was watching the movie.
1. the recording sounded too clear to be recorded on a mini-cassette recorder. It should have had some fading in and out of the sound as he was talking I would think. I read a review that brought up some points I had not thought of. The voice sounds young, so is it an actor interpreting the actual recordings? It doesn't sound like an older man in the hospital. There are no outside noises as would be expected on a hand held recording, especially in the hospital (people walking by, machines beeping or buzzing, etc.) Also that the recording seemed to have dramatic pauses that fit right in with the movie...

2. When they said that the whole reason for the cover-up was so that hundreds or thousands of girls would commit suicide if they found out Paul was dead - seemed WAY too out there for me...I just really had a hard time with that.

HOWEVER

I found that the words to the Beatles songs were really weird and did have a lot of death imagery. Also the parts on the album cover art was really fun to watch. I think this movie complied all the work of thousands of Beatles fans over the years in regards to this Paul is Dead thing, and put it together all in one place. I thought it was pretty fun to watch for that alone.

The interviews with George, he was DEFINITELY calling Paul, "Faul" - WTF is that?

And the Backwards Masking stuff - Why were the Beatles putting all that stuff in their albums???? As in - why put things in there like with the "death" and negativity imagery? Seems really weird!

I had fun with the movie, and got to see a really interesting viewpoint of the Beatles :smile:





I agree. The tape had to have been read by someone else and not in the linear fashion it was recorded in, as some voice clips were repeated. I look at it the way you look at it - an interesting thing to consider.

And TTT, Bro, I'm not trying to prove anything to anyone so I don't know why you're attacking my lack of evidence for a farfetched theory lol. As has been said many times I was just trying to get this documentary out there so that people could watch it on their own and make their own opinions.


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: NlightNme]
    #14210618 - 03/30/11 04:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

What about that "I buried Paul" statement at the end of 'Strawberry Fields Forever'? I know some people say it really is "cranberry sauce", but listen to this:



It's at 4:09, he clearly says "I buried Paul"...thoughts?  :confused2:


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: AaronEruditus]
    #14210750 - 03/30/11 05:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Could just as easily be I'm very tall.  Your ears can easily deceive you into hearing what you want to hear.


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: Todcasil]
    #14211203 - 03/30/11 06:36 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I really dont like what the new paul did with wings.




Are you serious!?  I love pauls solowork,
But my first beatles album was the white album,
which pretty much spelled out what the solo beatles
would be doing, and I LOVE that album.



I'm just kidding duder, it was a joke to amplify how silly it'd be for a "replacement" for one of the beatles to actually have a solo career after they broke up :lol:...this thread is so sillay youuu guiiiizz


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: claraclairvoyant]
    #14212634 - 03/30/11 11:22 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

:highfive:


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: Todcasil]
    #14213589 - 03/31/11 07:17 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

It was actually Ringo who died.


Oh wait, nobody cares about him.


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: mongo lloyd]
    #14213592 - 03/31/11 07:18 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

didnt read, need summary


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    #14213612 - 03/31/11 07:29 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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didnt read, need summary



Lennon was murdered because he was going to tell everyone that Paul McCartney died in a car crash and was replaced by a fake.


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: mongo lloyd]
    #14270656 - 04/11/11 04:08 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

threadkiller



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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: mongo lloyd]
    #14270683 - 04/11/11 04:44 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

beatles were occultists..........


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: Shins]
    #14270758 - 04/11/11 05:49 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Your moms an occultist.



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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: NlightNme]
    #14270767 - 04/11/11 05:56 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I watched that a couple years ago.

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    #14271616 - 04/11/11 10:44 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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didnt read, need summary



okay:
paul mccartney is dead is the worst 'documentary' ever. it's a good comedy though.
i actually watched some of it and fucking laughed. the recordings of george harrison are clearly not george speaking. anyone who has ever heard george harrison speak would know this.


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Re: Just found out why John Lennon was murdered. Blew my mind. [Re: claraclairvoyant]
    #14273683 - 04/11/11 05:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Well that's clearly unbiased.


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    #14273886 - 04/11/11 05:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Here, have some more tinfoil, friend.:tinfoil:


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    #14273949 - 04/11/11 06:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Why would a music band be such a big deal that they would need cover ups?


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    #14273969 - 04/11/11 06:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Well that's clearly unbiased.



in what manner? that i've heard george harrison speak? :lol:


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    #14274024 - 04/11/11 06:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Why would a music band be such a big deal that they would need cover ups?




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    #14284437 - 04/13/11 02:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Well that's clearly unbiased.



in what manner? that i've heard george harrison speak? :lol:





Calling it the worst documentary ever isn't biased? lol....

And what about the clip in there where it SHOWS harrison talking about it and Harrison clearly keeps referring to him as Faul... Was that just a digital creation? Never actually happened?


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NlightNme said:
Well that's clearly unbiased.



in what manner? that i've heard george harrison speak? :lol:





Calling it the worst documentary ever isn't biased? lol....

And what about the clip in there where it SHOWS harrison talking about it and Harrison clearly keeps referring to him as Faul... Was that just a digital creation? Never actually happened?




...I really wanted this thread to die. It gays up my thread list :lol:


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NlightNme said:
Well that's clearly unbiased.



in what manner? that i've heard george harrison speak? :lol:





Calling it the worst documentary ever isn't biased? lol....

And what about the clip in there where it SHOWS harrison talking about it and Harrison clearly keeps referring to him as Faul... Was that just a digital creation? Never actually happened?




...I really wanted this thread to die. It gays up my thread list :lol:



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    #14284877 - 04/13/11 04:19 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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What kind of crack are you smoking dude...
I read until you said "mccartney got decapitated" :facepalm:




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