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Re: LOVED ONE LOCKED UP [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14190816 - 03/27/11 06:41 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Calling alcoholism a disease is just an excuse to remove it from the same classification as other drugs.


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Re: LOVED ONE LOCKED UP [Re: vinsue]
    #14190823 - 03/27/11 06:43 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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vinsue said:
Get a room you two...:rolleyes: . and now back on topic...


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...2)  Respect your fellow posters at all times while posting in the Pub.  Intentionally "derailing" or post whoring/drawing a thread off-topic is considered bad form and is not permitted ... 



. . . :peace:


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Re: LOVED ONE LOCKED UP [Re: ToughLove78]
    #14190837 - 03/27/11 06:48 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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ToughLove78 said:
SC is 51% so he will do half if he behaves, he was an extreme alcoholic so I hope this solves that problem. He can be out 5 days before his daughter's 1st bday. I am lost right now.... my best friend and my lover and the father of my child  fuckin system!





when he get's out he'll need your support to stay away from alcohol, jail
will allow him the chance to get sober but it's up to him to put in the
effort to stay sober. dont blame the system for his time, it his own actions
that put him there, and while this may be hard to hear, his actions showed a
complete disregard for the well being of yourself and the baby


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Re: LOVED ONE LOCKED UP [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14190864 - 03/27/11 07:00 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Poid said:
...social sciences and similar fields are often described as soft.

Psychology is a social science.




but what's the actual definition of a soft science, we know that hard
sciences rely on empirical evidence, observation, quantifiable data and a
scientific method, while soft sciences seems to be another means of
articulating 'pseudoscience' in order not to offend those people working
in the field...

so poid, can you give us a definition and description of 'soft science'


http://www.wisegeek.com/topics/soft-science.htm#
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The term “soft science” is sometimes used to refer to branches of scientific inquiry which rely more on conjecture and qualitative analysis than rigorous adherence to the scientific method. “Soft science” is often used as a pejorative, differentiating it from “hard science,” with the implication that only hard science is real science.


It may not adhere rigorously to the scientific method, but doesn't mean that it adheres to an invalid scientific method; psychological theories are backed up by evidence, whereas pseudoscientific ones are not.


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Just because something is inheritable doesn't mean that it will necessarily be inherited, I don't know what gives you that idea.




and while the study you linked ot of more than 4000 alcoholics show that
only 30% had at least one parent that was an alcoholic... it's pseudoscience
because they drew this heritability claim with such a small number of
cases where the parent s were addicted to a substance


Here's a study with different figures:

The Behavioral Genetics of Alcoholism
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Heritability estimates suggest that approximately 50% to 60% of the variability in alcoholism liability is associated with genetic factors.





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Prisoner#1 said:
how is a psychologist a scientist


Psychology is a social science, that's how.

You should post in my thread in PSP. :thumbup:



lol... circular argument

define how it's a science, in fact as I'd already requested, define soft science


How is that a circular argument? Psychologists are practitioners of a certain category of science called the "social sciences"; any practitioner of any kind of science is a scientist.



PS--sorry for derailing this thread, I made one in PSP about this topic so we could discuss it there. :thumbup:


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It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.


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Re: LOVED ONE LOCKED UP [Re: Poid]
    #14190909 - 03/27/11 07:15 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Poid said:
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The term “soft science” is sometimes used to refer to branches of scientific inquiry which rely more on conjecture








so, it's pseudo science

conjecture
[kuhn-jek-cher] noun, verb, -tured, -tur·ing.

–noun
1.
the formation or expression of an opinion or theory without sufficient evidence for proof.
2.
an opinion or theory so formed or expressed; guess; speculation.
3.
Obsolete . the interpretation of signs or omens.
–verb (used with object)
4.
to conclude or suppose from grounds or evidence insufficient to ensure reliability.
–verb (used without object)
5.
to form conjectures.


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Re: LOVED ONE LOCKED UP [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14190921 - 03/27/11 07:24 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I don't wanna be an ass and continue to derail this thread; if you'd like to continue the discussion, we should do it here instead. :respect:


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fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.


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Re: LOVED ONE LOCKED UP [Re: Poid]
    #14191396 - 03/27/11 10:21 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Apparently, Pub rules don't apply to some people :shrug:... ToughLove78 , good luck and be strong . . . :peace:


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