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Bridgeburner
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remembering death
#14189078 - 03/26/11 09:05 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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i've had vague past life memories coming back to me, or at least thats what i think they are. i remember being someone else and dying, shot or stabbed in the torso in a riot. i'm lying against a low wall and people are running all around me. i slowly bleed and start feeling my body getting lighter and lighter. i lose feeling in my limbs as they're tingling and disappearing, then i notice i am no longer breathing and i kind of dissolve.
im wondering if this is common with past life believers. i dont remember much of anything else. even that one was vague and disturbing.
regarding past life stuff i met a woman who i think i now from ancient times. its unexplainable and annoying. i have the feeling i know her and she was some sort of a priestess at a temple and i was somewhat close to her. she radiates something that makes me react. not in a physical way, more like she's somehow so high above me and not a mere human but an old soul or whatever you want to call it. when she looks me in the eye its like im falling or expecting her to tell me what/who i really am. like she holds some sort of a secret concerning me.
convince me im deluded.
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Edited by Belac (03/26/11 09:30 PM)
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ivander
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I don't think u are delusional.. cuz even if you brain is making this stuff up, its coming from somewhere and for some reason out of your subconsciousness.. either way, if you were able to remember more of that kind of stuff, I would say just don't let it influence you negativity in your daily life.. and you are good to go on..
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Re: remembering death [Re: ivander]
#14209764 - 03/30/11 02:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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another insight i've had is that in other lifetimes i've been interested in the occult & paranormal also and developed myself spiritually towards the same goal. that i knew in my past life i will not go to heaven or somewhere like that but i'd be reborn to learn new lessons. thats what i feel now, that its a continuing struggle.
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A struggle.. but it does not have to be.. the way I see it. You are alive now, so you can learn new lessons.. perhaps these insights of other lifetimes.. is just another lesson.
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convince me im deluded.
Also perhaps, you should not bother yourself with idea, if these are your delusions.. but what you make of them spiritually? I think all humans have sort of, insights like you.. just most of them did not realize it as you do. Its different to everybody. Its continuing journey... how I feel it.
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Hmmm, thats very interesting. How did these visions arise? While awake, or what? Its cool though I'd take that seriously, I too feel like I've been interested in spirituality for several lifetimes.
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I'm reading this book by Stan Grof, http://www.amazon.com/Psychology-Future-Consciousness-Transpersonal-Humanistic/dp/0791446220/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1301618379&sr=8-1, and having flashes of past-lives is not immediately dismissed by Transpersonal Psychology. Neither is it relegated to the creative workings of the unconscious. The difficulty is discerning the difference. Up to the time of this reading, I have turned away people who contact me for hypnosis in order to do past-life regression, but now, I'm considering doing this (for my regular fee of course), in order to see what might come of it. Until now I've told people that I'm strictly clinical, not metaphysical in my practice, because I tell them that people assume the Hindu scheme (Reincarnation), whereas Buddhists are different (Rebirth, Anatta), as are the transmigration notions of ancient Greek, of Kabbalistic Jews, and of Neopagans.
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g00ru
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i consider the difference semantic. Hindus talk much more about "souls" and "God," Buddhists are all about the "no self," emptiness aspect. I see their views on reincarnation as following the same diverging vocabularies.
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Re: remembering death [Re: g00ru]
#14221441 - 04/01/11 02:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hmmm, thats very interesting. How did these visions arise? While awake, or what? Its cool though I'd take that seriously, I too feel like I've been interested in spirituality for several lifetimes.
gradually through just "awakening" myself. feelings and awareness coming back to me through the "future" or the "past" until im beginning to feel always in the "now". some weirdo ripple effect. i cant explain it very well but yeah it wasnt a vision, more like remembering something awful. its a terrible feeling, i mean being aware of physical life leaving you, feeling more and more like an object unable to move or cry out, just seeing world passing you by and slipping away, panicking, last final thoughts of your mind... not something i really want to fully remember but its like a scab, i keep on picking it
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I get these images of future america, a land that will look much more like india, with wandering holy men and a generally more "natural" standard of living with death and suffering on more full display, but also a much higher level of spiritual development. Yeah it's like future and past becoming objects of the now, where they can come into full view.
It's probably a blessing in disguise that you can remember that, because it'll allow you to be much more prepared for death this time around and have an even better rebirth (if necessary). That sounds intense though.
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Re: remembering death [Re: g00ru]
#14226035 - 04/02/11 01:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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guruu said: i consider the difference semantic. Hindus talk much more about "souls" and "God," Buddhists are all about the "no self," emptiness aspect. I see their views on reincarnation as following the same diverging vocabularies.
Actually you can read pages and pages of buddhist books, weblogs and essays without ever once encountering the idea of no self. I wonder why?
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Grapefruit said:
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guruu said: i consider the difference semantic. Hindus talk much more about "souls" and "God," Buddhists are all about the "no self," emptiness aspect. I see their views on reincarnation as following the same diverging vocabularies.
Actually you can read pages and pages of buddhist books, weblogs and essays without ever once encountering the idea of no self. I wonder why? 
Are you suggesting no-self isn't a Buddhist concept or there is a reason its not discussed?
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Grapefruit said:
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guruu said: i consider the difference semantic. Hindus talk much more about "souls" and "God," Buddhists are all about the "no self," emptiness aspect. I see their views on reincarnation as following the same diverging vocabularies.
Actually you can read pages and pages of buddhist books, weblogs and essays without ever once encountering the idea of no self. I wonder why? 
ya...makes sense lol. not much to talk about.
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Re: remembering death [Re: oxalic32]
#14226269 - 04/02/11 01:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well, I wouldn't say it's not a concept that can't be found within buddhist literature. Just that it's very rare to find it anywhere in Buddhist texts despite the fact that it's one of the core teachings of the buddha. IMO the reason it's not there is because people are scared or don't want to see that they are not their ego and therefore most buddhists don't even understand the concept.
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oh i was thinking you were taking a pro buddhist stance but that's actually a more interesting way to look at it
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Grapefruit said: Well, I wouldn't say it's not a concept that can't be found within buddhist literature. Just that it's very rare to find it anywhere in Buddhist texts despite the fact that it's one of the core teachings of the buddha. IMO the reason it's not there is because people are scared or don't want to see that they are not their ego and therefore most buddhists don't even understand the concept.
it's in most of the buddhist texts i read  (though it's more inclusive as emptiness not just no-self)
what texts are you referring to? the sutras and commentaries all go very in depth into this
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Re: remembering death [Re: deff]
#14226664 - 04/02/11 03:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nothing I can mention in particular, you may be right, that's just not my experience of buddhist writings.
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you can find out more through hypnotism, just make sure you trust the hypnotist.
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Dr. Ian Stevenson
this is the dude you wanna look into regarding reincarnation.
you're not deluded, you're lucky man
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