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Re: Progress [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14187969 - 03/26/11 05:32 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

All of the jars I shook yesterday look like they are almost fully recovered, they look better than the one I didn't shake twice. I will post some pics later on this and the other thread that is only grow logs and time lines, my girl took off to a B-day party with the camera. I am preparing my monos for spawning in the next few days. I will be doing one with Hpoo and one without, wish me luck.


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Re: Progress [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14187992 - 03/26/11 05:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

The holes I was speaking of were the side and top holes, I was wondering if condensation droplets running down the sides would be affected by filling the holes taped on the outside. I have decided to tape the inside since then though so that the condensation drops will run down the smooth surface better.


I was planning on using a black liner made from a clean piece of a giant trash bag a foot bigger both Legth and width than the bottoms of the tubs.

Measurements on the tubs:"since I only have one bag"(giant leaf bag that is big enough for all my tubs), measure the piece of bag to the measurements of the bottom of the tub and add a foot, length and width. This will give you enough plastic to set the tub in the middle of the plastic and have 6 extra inches on each of the four sides(cut at corners in my special technique, from the corner of the rectangle piece of bag to where the corner of the tub is sitting, and then fold 45 degree angle, making two right triangles, one in one out, and the two straight sides line up making the top and side straight and level with each other.


Here is a rough illustration of my cutting technique, I will really just put the tub in the middle and cut from tub corner to the corner of the plastic on all four sides. The reason I am doing this is to make a much straighter edge at the top of the liner to tape to the inside of the SG keeping my condensation from running behind the plastic.





Duct tape the outside that wont be touching the sub in each corner by folding where the cut is until the outside edges meet, making a corner like the corner of a box, repeating for all four corners making a tray shape. Place it in the FC and pull the inside triangular flap back till you can see the tape on the outside and cut the flap off. And then tape the inside(to make a good seal take a pencil or *similar*, tear a strip of duct tape, wrap one end very loosely around the pencil with the non sticky side on the pencil in the middle towards the end of the tape, press the pencil into the corner and then smoothing the tape with as little bubbles as possible, the pencil allows you to get the tape to the inside corner, without it, it would be very difficult to tape the corner). This would make a kind of a garbage bag liner tray.

Then taping the "tray" to the FC, at the top all the way around to the inside of the SG would let the condensation run down the sides into my sub instead of down and under the plastic*. After all four corners are waterproofed and it is in place taped to the inside of the tub, I will clean the whole thing out by spraying it with lysol first, then vinegar, and then peroxide a few times and wiping it down with paper towels after each spraying.


Should I fill the holes with polyfil during fruiting? I was gonna tape all holes during consolidation, but during fruiting go buy a box of 200 cigarette filters for 1$ or 2 and use the filters on the holes that I take the tape off of? The reason I say cigarette filters is because they would fit perfectly(they are just slightly bigger than 1/4" holes), insert easily, they are super cheap and easy to handle, insert easily with a slightly tight fit, and if I buy the 100s length filters I could use each one for 2 or three holes and they would look much better that polyfil. Polyfil would also involve me opening the lid over and over to pull the polyfil in, "lots of holes", when I put in fruiting conditions. Or should I just leave the holes open?


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Re: Progress [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14189114 - 03/26/11 09:15 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Here is what I have today:
Shaken twice jars:
Sorry for the topside pics, it is hard to hold a camera steady when your hands are over your head, i needed a chair.
This one has only been shaken once when it was about 15-20% (estimate by a noob):

This is the FC I made out of a  9 inch tall, foot long tub. I call it a MMH (Mini Mono House). I have a few improvements for it but they would be a little more than twice as expensive than a 3$ tub, a 1$ painters tarp, and a coat hanger piece that I have no idea what I paid for.:

2 maybe 3 more days? Am I right?


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Re: Progress [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14189180 - 03/26/11 09:31 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

MMM is already taken by Morelmans "MMM - Morelman's Modified Monotub"

And it would be MMH if it's Mini Mono House lol but looks good but I wanna see how it fruits. The only problem I see with it is that you can't stack them like you can with normal monotubs.


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Re: Progress [Re: freeskierpj]
    #14189208 - 03/26/11 09:39 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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MMM is already taken by Morelmans "MMM - Morelman's Modified Monotub"

And it would be MMH if it's Mini Mono House lol but looks good but I wanna see how it fruits. The only problem I see with it is that you can't stack them like you can with normal monotubs.




Yeah I don't know what I was thinking, I am half there.


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Re: Progress [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14189262 - 03/26/11 09:50 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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MMM is already taken by Morelmans "MMM - Morelman's Modified Monotub"

And it would be MMH if it's Mini Mono House lol but looks good but I wanna see how it fruits. The only problem I see with it is that you can't stack them like you can with normal monotubs.




Yeah I don't know what I was thinking, I am half there.




Don't worry so am I :laugh:


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Re: Progress [Re: freeskierpj]
    #14192267 - 03/27/11 01:23 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Cool tubs Enig  :super: Its coming along nicely


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Re: Progress [Re: fbi365]
    #14192840 - 03/27/11 03:16 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Ok I know little about grain but should I let them go a few more days or should I go ahead and spawn them tomorrow?



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Re: Progress [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14192894 - 03/27/11 03:27 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

id spawn it xD


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Re: Progress [Re: k00laid]
    #14192917 - 03/27/11 03:32 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

yup they're ready to go.

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Re: Progress [Re: biologys]
    #14193137 - 03/27/11 04:14 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Progress [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #14193313 - 03/27/11 04:53 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Can I leave the coir in the bucket 48 hours and still use it?


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Re: Progress [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14193972 - 03/27/11 07:22 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I would say spawn it asap but I don't see why you would have a problem if you waited as long as it is pasteurized right and the lid is left on so no contaminants get in there...Again though I would say spawn ASAP.


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Re: Progress [Re: freeskierpj]
    #14194698 - 03/27/11 09:17 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

OK, now.... I am leaning towards a full pasteurization tomorrow, well even tonight for that matter.

Get the sub mix coir/verm (80/20)pasteurized and put it in my new bucket after I clean it.
Pasteurize 1 quart verm/poo/gypsum (50/50/(10)" make a paste with my dehydrated Hpoo and use a pint of it mixed with a pint of hydrated fine verm" for 90 minutes
Mix the Hpoo butter with the left over coir from the first tub, check for Field Capacity and then spawn the rest of the 6 quarts
I guess I will find out, when, when I see how much a brick of coir makes?
I just wanna use this poo before it has no N content, its dark and dry and I think it should be used asap, maybe I save it for my other 5 pounds of rye.


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Re: Progress [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14194726 - 03/27/11 09:21 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

stick with just coir/verm for this batch...

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Re: Progress [Re: biologys]
    #14194827 - 03/27/11 09:35 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

My one tub that I am using first, I think I cut the holes a little too short, like 3 1/2 inches from bottom.

My other is small so I am sure I can fill them both up...

Does the sub really need to be 4" thick if you are most likely only getting 2 flushes anyway depending on the vivacity of the myc?

I want pooo in it cause I got it and it said it last weeks so I gotta use it soon..

My GLC jars are about 10-15%, how long does it take a GLC to colonize a Rye jar?


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Re: Progress [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14194841 - 03/27/11 09:37 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

LC can colonize in 7-14 days on average...

they dont have to be 4 inches, i've grown with 2 inches, but the mushrooms aren't as big as they would be with a 4 inch sub depth.

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Re: Progress [Re: biologys]
    #14194880 - 03/27/11 09:46 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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LC can colonize in 7-14 days on average...

they dont have to be 4 inches, i've grown with 2 inches, but the mushrooms aren't as big as they would be with a 4 inch sub depth.





Thanks for the quick response, I am about to go clean up, wash some dishes, and make a bucket.
I guess I will just save the poo for next time, might make a pot or two of coffee and throw the spent in it now tho


I just don't understand why we recommend a low N sub, I know how to boil and turn heat off and put on dust masks and gloves after I oust and such. What is the big deal with coir/verm nothingness? I would think we would be recommending a pompous grass hay and elephant dung sub and pasteurizing properly.

I am still going to experiment so it makes no difference but good anyway, cheers thanks for the info.


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Re: Progress [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14194895 - 03/27/11 09:49 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

dont add coffee, or manure, unless you're going to properly pasteurize on the stove at 140-160 for an hour..

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Re: Progress [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14194897 - 03/27/11 09:49 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Well if you wanna do poo then maybe try this tek HERE:


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