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What if you had the power to make others do what you want?
    #14187343 - 03/26/11 03:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)



Imagine you wake up one morning with the ability to make people do whatever you want.  You can put thoughts in their mind, make them move their body like a puppeteer playing with marionettes, alter their very personalities and wipe their memory of the whole event afterwards.  What would you do with your power?  Would you use it to walk the earth like a God amongst lesser mortals, causing your enemies to commit suicide, attractive members of the preferred sex to jump into your arms and bank managers to gladly give you the contents of entire safes?  Would you roam the lands seeking evil-doers and literally forcing them to do good while spreading happiness as a mindset around everyone near to you?  Or would you mostly refrain from using your gifts on the grounds that too much power corrupts?  :satansmoking:


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Re: What if you had the power to make others do what you want? [Re: deCypher] * 2
    #14187359 - 03/26/11 03:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'd feel really corrupt as I set about sexing any sexy young thing that wandered into sight.


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Re: What if you had the power to make others do what you want? [Re: deCypher]
    #14187363 - 03/26/11 03:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'd just get the money and then i'd back off.
I would only use it in self defense or to protect someone else.


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Re: What if you had the power to make others do what you want? [Re: deCypher]
    #14187567 - 03/26/11 04:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i don't think i would use it :shrug:


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Re: What if you had the power to make others do what you want? [Re: deff]
    #14187897 - 03/26/11 05:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)



Did you just read this book?  If not I think you might enjoy it, it's exactly what you're talkin about.




As for the question, I'd like to think not unless it was to save my own life.


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Re: What if you had the power to make others do what you want? [Re: donteatasians]
    #14188168 - 03/26/11 06:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Kickle said:
I'd feel really corrupt as I set about sexing any sexy young thing that wandered into sight.




:lol: it'd definitely be a temptation.  I mean, if you can make them want to have sex with you and if you can reset their memory after the fact then it's not really like you're violating their free will and it'll be just as if it'd never happened.  Of course, these are sheer rationalizations, but still...

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jivJaN said:
I'd just get the money and then i'd back off.
I would only use it in self defense or to protect someone else.




I think I might do much the same.  :sherlock:

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deff said:
i don't think i would use it :shrug:




Why not?  You could help people with your power.  This question also goes to donteatasians.

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Did you just read this book?  If not I think you might enjoy it, it's exactly what you're talkin about.




Heh, I read that book a few years ago... great stuff.  All of Dan Simmons' works are good IMO; have you read his Hyperion series?


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Re: What if you had the power to make others do what you want? [Re: deCypher]
    #14188310 - 03/26/11 06:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The only other book of his I've read was "Terror".  I really liked that too since it caught me off-guard.  I need to get more of his books.


The only help I could really see someone needing from me with an ability like that would also be restricted to life-threatening situations. 
Manipulation in any other case with good intentions seems to me like robbing them of an expience to grow.
Forcing some one into an act of goodwill seems pretty ripe for back-fire. 
I also am having a hard time thinking of anything you could do that would cause a long lasting positive effect.  Chances are that whatever I could change would go back to how it was as soon as I withdrew.


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Re: What if you had the power to make others do what you want? [Re: deCypher]
    #14188793 - 03/26/11 08:07 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Initially I would use it to help others whom, like myself, feel like they have some kind of psychological barrier holding them back. Examples include: the nice guy too shy to go talk to a girl, the passive individual too scared to have an adventure, the meek person too deflated to stand up and defend their own honor, the individual too prideful to give into emotions, so forth and so on. But, I wouldn't choose to erase their memories. I would want them to remember their moment of triumph so that they could use it as fuel to fire the rest of their lives.

That all sounds a bit idealistic, doesn't it?

Also, I would use it to bring love interests my way. I wouldn't forced someone that did not like me to... involve themselves romantically. But, if someone had interest in me but couldn't get over a hump, then I'd definitely nudge them in my direction. :shiftyeyes:

Would I use it for 'evil'?... I would like to think not. But you never know how power can corrupt someone. So, even though I would start off with the best of intentions, I don't know where I would end up...  :hellfire: or :insert angel gremlin:* :shrug:










*I find it strange we don't have an angel gremlin... that, or I couldn't find it....


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Re: What if you had the power to make others do what you want? [Re: ShroomScape]
    #14188852 - 03/26/11 08:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

We have :blueangel:.  Not nearly as cool as Satan smoking a cheroot though.  :satansmoking::lol:


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Re: What if you had the power to make others do what you want? [Re: deCypher] * 1
    #14188906 - 03/26/11 08:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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:lol: it'd definitely be a temptation.  I mean, if you can make them want to have sex with you and if you can reset their memory after the fact then it's not really like you're violating their free will and it'll be just as if it'd never happened.  Of course, these are sheer rationalizations, but still...





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Re: What if you had the power to make others do what you want? [Re: deCypher]
    #14188917 - 03/26/11 08:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I changed my mind. I would at least stop prohibition.
It took me WAY to long to figure that out.  I wonder if everything would be re-banned. :strokebeard:


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Re: What if you had the power to make others do what you want? [Re: deCypher] * 1
    #14188925 - 03/26/11 08:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

That angel will do quite nicely. Where did ya find it? I get freaking lost in the maze of gremlins. < good problem to have.

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Re: What if you had the power to make others do what you want? [Re: ShroomScape]
    #14188942 - 03/26/11 08:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Anbody saying they wouldn't use this power for sex is a liar.


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Re: What if you had the power to make others do what you want? [Re: Grapefruit]
    #14189607 - 03/26/11 11:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I would use it to have sex with grapefruit. And make him like it.  :hehehe:  :doggystyle:


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Re: What if you had the power to make others do what you want? [Re: Grapefruit]
    #14189678 - 03/26/11 11:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Anbody saying they wouldn't use this power for sex is a liar.




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Re: What if you had the power to make others do what you want? [Re: deCypher]
    #14189699 - 03/26/11 11:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

This is actually something I have contemplated and discussed before...

To suddenly have that much power and to be able to use it as easily as words can escape my mouth would be difficult to control, I feel it would certainly corrupt any person on some levels and in some aspects.
I think many would lose much of their humanity.

I would certainly use it for good, but, I am not a man void of selfishness, desire, lust and thirst for power. I can easily see myself "abusing" (That's if there is any hierarchy beyond the constructs of human thought that actually dictates the essence of morality, right and wrong.) my power for my own gain, satisfaction and pleasure.


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Re: What if you had the power to make others do what you want? [Re: Raven Gnosis]
    #14189713 - 03/26/11 11:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I think many would lose much of their humanity.


What is that supposed to mean?


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Re: What if you had the power to make others do what you want? [Re: Poid]
    #14189924 - 03/27/11 12:40 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Eh, I feel that becoming more human than human has great potential to rob one of a sense of kinship to their fellow species if they suddenly found themselves terrifyingly beyond their capacities.


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Re: What if you had the power to make others do what you want? [Re: Raven Gnosis]
    #14189941 - 03/27/11 12:44 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I think the degree of that potential depends on the individual--I think, for assholes, that degree is significant, whereas for kind people, that degree is relatively small. I'm not sure if such powers would turn a kind person into an asshole...


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It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.


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Re: What if you had the power to make others do what you want? [Re: Poid]
    #14189956 - 03/27/11 12:47 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I think the degree of that potential depends on the individual--I think, for assholes, that degree is significant, whereas for kind people, that degree is relatively small. I'm not sure if such powers would turn a kind person into an asshole...


I completely concur and was seriously going to say that in my original post, but felt like I couldn't articulate it right, decided I was too baked 'ta bother.


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Re: What if you had the power to make others do what you want? [Re: Raven Gnosis]
    #14189959 - 03/27/11 12:48 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:lol:, goddamn it, everybody is high right now besides me! :crankeytom:


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Re: What if you had the power to make others do what you want? [Re: Poid]
    #14192656 - 03/27/11 02:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Don't be too envious, I did another hit and before I knew it I was not where I wanted to be... Weed typically has very potent entheogen like effects on me, and it's too easy to "over do it" since I hardly smoke anymore. So, I found myself bodiless, merging with this strange fingerless hand like shape, whose feeling I can associate with the words "familial hub" Then before I knew it, I was a pulsing skeleton dancing wildly through a directionless abyss, made not of bone but tiny strands of rapidly changing colors, mostly reds blacks and whites.... It was so horrific and painful, that it was ecstatic. I wasn't seeking it so I wasn't exactly happy to be there, but, what can I do but roll with it? I just wanted to be baked...:sad:

Wish I had the ability to do some of the things I do in that world here... Aleister Crowley, move over.:satansmoking:


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Re: What if you had the power to make others do what you want? [Re: Raven Gnosis]
    #14194708 - 03/27/11 09:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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So, I found myself bodiless...


I felt this before on weed, it was intense. :thumbup:


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It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.


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Re: What if you had the power to make others do what you want? [Re: Poid]
    #14202505 - 03/29/11 06:54 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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So, I found myself bodiless...


I felt this before on weed, it was intense. :thumbup:




Weed has ridiculously dissociative effects on me if I get high enough in the right frame of mind.  It's rare (only 3 times so far), but when it happens the idea of "me" as a person seems a ridiculous joke, as does the world, and universe entirely.
:feelsweirdman:

To the topic, I would change a few things, prohibition being pretty high on the list.  And who could resist mass orgies :smile:?  I'd also use it to stop genocides and such.  Although, I wouldn't trust myself with that much power...


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Re: What if you had the power to make others do what you want? [Re: ThemBones]
    #14203042 - 03/29/11 10:36 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I think large scale changes could be a serious blunder with the power. I'd keep it as simple and small scale as I could, minimizing any impact to the point that it was almost as though it had never happened. Approaching it as though I were traveling back in time and had no clue what effect my actions might have.


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