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GT forming stones?
    #14187220 - 03/26/11 02:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

A friend recently purchased GT spores from a well respected vendor and started an LC. From that LC he knocked up WBS and PF Jars. As both types of jars reached about 70% colonization they started odd growths next to the glass. He wasn't sure what they were but a recent post made him think they may be stones, but from GT? Jars smell great so no bacterial infection, no green or anything else that looks like a contaminate. As he was spawning to bulk he pulled one out and it had the texture of a very dense mushroom....

Initially I told him it was probably premature pinning but he said the 2 he looked at out of the jar were just a mass and looked nothing like a mushroom. After over a week they haven't formed any caps either...


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Re: GT forming stones? [Re: ThirdEyeVision]
    #14187389 - 03/26/11 03:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

one of my pf cakes also had this kind growth, not sure what it i but they are in the Fruiting chamber now so we 'll see


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Re: GT forming stones? [Re: 3Cajun1Mo8]
    #14187427 - 03/26/11 03:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

In vitro blobs. Good eating. :mushroom2:


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Re: GT forming stones? [Re: Doc_T]
    #14187550 - 03/26/11 03:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

should I have takin it off the cake Doc? will it grow larger in the FC or just take up space on the cake not allowing pins to form on that spot?


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Re: GT forming stones? [Re: 3Cajun1Mo8]
    #14187558 - 03/26/11 03:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

If it keeps getting bigger let it grow. I love blobs.


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Re: GT forming stones? [Re: Doc_T]
    #14188124 - 03/26/11 06:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

blobs, I love it! So, would they be a form of sclerotia? Any idea what triggers them to grow? All of his jars formed them from that batch so one would assume either it's triggered by the environment or genetics.


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Re: GT forming stones? [Re: ThirdEyeVision]
    #14188127 - 03/26/11 06:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

no, its the same as a mushroom...same texture, just deformed.. stones are hard nut like.


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Re: GT forming stones? [Re: biologys]
    #14188292 - 03/26/11 06:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I always called them mushroom tumors and figured it was genetics but idk


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Re: GT forming stones? [Re: bakenast]
    #14188950 - 03/26/11 08:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I've never seen those in the colonization phase. Cakes seem to fruit and grow in weird ways and at weird times.


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Re: GT forming stones? [Re: ronjohn7779]
    #14226578 - 04/02/11 03:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Blobs or Tumors seem like pretty acurate names lol. My friend pulled a couple out of a PF Jar and sent me the picture below. They share no resemblance of a mushroom other than texture. Even then they are much much much more dense than a mushroom. Any idea what causes them? Not enough GE? Genetics?



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Re: GT forming stones? [Re: ThirdEyeVision]
    #14226584 - 04/02/11 03:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

fruiting too early can cause them, sometimes its just genetic's..


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Re: GT forming stones? [Re: biologys]
    #14231316 - 04/03/11 02:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Grow penis envy and you'll realize mushrooms dont need caps to grow, they do what they want when they want. Nothing weirder than the first time you see a shroom growing upside down.


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Re: GT forming stones? [Re: ThirdEyeVision]
    #14231600 - 04/03/11 03:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Blobs are not sclerotia.
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Re: GT forming stones? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14231781 - 04/03/11 04:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

So it's like a blob of the same stuff that makes up the stem of a Shroom just no cap?


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Re: GT forming stones? [Re: 3Cajun1Mo8]
    #14231823 - 04/03/11 04:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

yep..


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Re: GT forming stones? [Re: biologys]
    #14273563 - 04/11/11 04:57 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Just a little update. He tells me his WBS jars that had the blobs in them were bulked with coir/EWC/gypsum/verm. They colonized and have been in fruiting for about a week now. The blobs still continue to grow even splitting the sub in several places. One that was half way out was photographed here. Very dense, this one weighed in at 4.769 grams.

There are about 6 that are visibly breaking through the sub and zero fruit...  :shrug:



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Re: GT forming stones? [Re: ThirdEyeVision]
    #14273772 - 04/11/11 05:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Looks like a sclerotium? Crack it in half- is it stringy or fibrous? Or more like nutmeat?

also, how does it taste? Metallic and nutty?


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Re: GT forming stones? [Re: Doc_T]
    #14273914 - 04/11/11 05:58 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Looks like a sclerotium? Crack it in half- is it stringy or fibrous? Or more like nutmeat?

also, how does it taste? Metallic and nutty?




He said it snapped in half and has the texture of a moist nut. When he tasted it it crumbled when bit and tasted almost like a raw almond. It did have a strong metallic after taste at the back of the tongue.


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Re: GT forming stones? [Re: ThirdEyeVision]
    #14273967 - 04/11/11 06:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

You got stones. :yesnod: Don't know why, mislabeled syringe apparently.

5g  sclerotia is roughly equal to a one dry gram of cubensis. Chow down, report back!!


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Re: GT forming stones? [Re: Doc_T]
    #14274022 - 04/11/11 06:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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You got stones. :yesnod: Don't know why, mislabeled syringe apparently.

5g  sclerotia is roughly equal to a one dry gram of cubensis. Chow down, report back!!




Damn, he was looking forward to the GT. Stones should be fun though, he just wish he would have known in advance so he could have went about things differently.
Is it possible that they weren't mislabeled and GT can produce stones? They were purchased by a reputable vendor that has a forum named after it (hint hint)
Would a pfcakes of the same LC fruit in a SGFC? What should he do with his bulk tubes? My friend is just thoroughly confused now  :justdontknow:

Boy does that metallic after taste stick with you. He had to eat a chocolate to make it go away.


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