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nickslick313
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Thinking about trying acid, is it safe?
#14186685 - 03/26/11 12:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hey guys, I have tripped on shrooms and dmt many times before but I'm thinking about trying acid. The only thing I'm afraid of is getting HPPD after the experience, and becoming permanently fried. I tried searching around but I need more answers, will I get HPPD after trying acid? I'm alright with shrooms in that area because they aren't that visual, I mean after doing shrooms when I stare at the ground it may wave a little bit but its so miniscule that I don't care about it, I'd just hate to have it be worstened by acid.
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Re: Thinking about trying acid, is it safe? [Re: nickslick313]
#14186730 - 03/26/11 01:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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i don't think your any more likely to get hppd on acid than you are on mushrooms, though i could be wrong. either way i believe the condition is very rare.
i will say after my first time of doing acid if i looked long and hard enough at letters it would start to get slightly wavy, but it was barely noticeable and for some reason it didn't do it with anything else, you should be fine.
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd.shtml
here's a site that has tons of info and i believe there's a few articles on hppd.
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Re: Thinking about trying acid, is it safe? [Re: bigmike7104]
#14186808 - 03/26/11 01:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ahh ok thanks bro
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Re: Thinking about trying acid, is it safe? [Re: bigmike7104]
#14186812 - 03/26/11 01:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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no I'm 99.99999999% sure that you will not get HPPD from trying acid once, the thing is with LSD (and you may have heard this before) is that even if the trip is really good or really bad you will probably NEVER see the world the same again.
For most people this is a good thing, but for a few it can be very hard to deal with and integrate the experience back into the reality of their every day lives.
Don't let that put you off though, the best advice I can give you is wait until you are ready and willing to take on that kind of experience. The reason 15 year olds shouldn't do LSD is not because its dangerous, its because it will most likely change your entire views on the world and the universe and your place in it.
And at a young age like that, (and some people are still too "mentally" young in their early 20's) your still trying to find out the person who you will become, and acid may alter that view of yourself and the world around you permanently.
Once you open the doors of perception its pretty hard to close them again.
That being said if you've had shrooms and DMT before, I'm pretty sure you will be absolutely fine. Don't start worrying about HPPD before you've even had it! just enjoy it.
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Re: Thinking about trying acid, is it safe? [Re: Austrip]
#14186954 - 03/26/11 01:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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i should also add that the wavy letters only lasted a few months.
just be prepared to trip for 12-14 hours and feel very drained after wards.
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Re: Thinking about trying acid, is it safe? [Re: bigmike7104]
#14187230 - 03/26/11 02:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Thinking about trying acid, is it safe? [Re: Johnny Depp]
#14189686 - 03/26/11 11:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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if you are getting clean acid and it is certainly acid, then you are definitely safe, i wouldn't worry about flashbacks, never met anyone who has had them, i know a lot of people who take acid.
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Re: Thinking about trying acid, is it safe? [Re: nickslick313]
#14189743 - 03/26/11 11:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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You haven't really tripped until you had one really strong acid trip where you thought you were dying or weren't coming back. 
I had this single, earth-shattering, mind-fucking trip when I was 16. It FOREVER changed my worldview. The trip report is on Erowid. http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=41534
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Re: Thinking about trying acid, is it safe? [Re: starfire_xes]
#14190188 - 03/27/11 02:01 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I get HPPD sometimes after a trip. It's really no big deal it always goes away eventually.
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Re: Thinking about trying acid, is it safe? [Re: nickslick313]
#14190599 - 03/27/11 05:09 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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nickslick313 said: Hey guys, I have tripped on shrooms and dmt many times before but I'm thinking about trying acid. The only thing I'm afraid of is getting HPPD after the experience, and becoming permanently fried. I tried searching around but I need more answers, will I get HPPD after trying acid? I'm alright with shrooms in that area because they aren't that visual, I mean after doing shrooms when I stare at the ground it may wave a little bit but its so miniscule that I don't care about it, I'd just hate to have it be worstened by acid.
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh try it brav, you won't regretb it. just make sure somebody is close to you!
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Re: Thinking about trying acid, is it safe? [Re: Ouija]
#14190860 - 03/27/11 06:58 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ouija said: I get HPPD sometimes after a trip. It's really no big deal it always goes away eventually.
it's HPPD, just afterglow 
I actually had my first trip yesterday. The most profound experience I've had. Reached 3 level trip (close to 4), but not the actual visual and audial stimuli are what's important, but the things you understand AFTER it. The trip is like an interlude of incredible beauty and magnificence to a deeper understanding of things.
But the intensity is certainly not for everyone - you should be completely sure that you want to do this and confident about yourself. If you are, just plug in, sit back, and enjoy
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Re: Thinking about trying acid, is it safe? [Re: Nocticula]
#14191099 - 03/27/11 08:41 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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LSD is safe from a pharmacological point in that it is an extremely low active dose, and therefore not as neurotoxic as compounds that take much more mass to be active (like mescaline).
If anyone in your immediate family have underlying neurological issues such as depression, bi-polar, anxiety, schizophrenia, ect or if you think that you might be at risk for such ailments, then it might be wise to abstain from psychedelic drugs. Otherwise the risk of taking LSD is relatively non-existent.
The main safety concern is about how you will react while under the influence of such a mind expanding compound. You may believe you could fly and jump off a building, think that your parents/roomates/person staring oddly at you is the devil and kill them, or you could perform ancient heathen rituals to kill satan and use your tripping buddy as the sacrifice(ok so the last one was a mushroom tea incident).
However, all is not lost. These instances are EXTREME cases of negligent use of psychedelics and in most instances the people who were using them SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN.
Honestly, you'll probably feel great euphoria, your field of vision will warp and expand radiating with color, and thoughts will be present in your head that you might never experience sober. Just remember that what ever thoughts DO happen in your head that you ARE tripping and that it would be best to act/reflect on them in a much sober mindset.
Afterward, and this is addressing the OP, you may feel a disconcerting trail of light around certain objects. This is normal, called the afterglow, and does eventually fade away. In some cases where a psychedelic is used on a regular frequency it can last for longer periods of time. The psychedelic phenethylamine 2C-I is notorious for giving people cases of HPPD.
Two things need to be stressed. Set and Setting. If you don't understand that phrase, don't do psychedelics until you do. Those two components are almost as important if not more so than the drug itself.
Once you understand the state of mind (the set) that precedes a successful experience, and a surrounding area that is conducive to that state of mind (the setting, "think safe place") then psychedelic trips are relatively benign, easy to control, and very enjoyable.
Tripping with a sitter (or being around anyone) who is familiar with responding to difficult psychedelic experiences can help you out greatly in the event that things do go sour. (In fact I think that part of the site should be a must read before ANYONE begins to experiment with psychs or agrees to trip sit for someone.)
All in all, Psychs are a risk. The more you prepare, the safer you will be.
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ime mushrooms "fuck me up" a lot worse than cid'. maybe its just bc i pound a lot of boomers but who knows
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Re: Thinking about trying acid, is it safe? [Re: shroomiin]
#14191268 - 03/27/11 09:35 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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LSD is one of the most safest drugs available!!! take it!!!!!!
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Re: Thinking about trying acid, is it safe? [Re: microdotty]
#14191350 - 03/27/11 10:06 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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microdotty said: LSD is one of the most safest drugs available!!! take it!!!!!!
as long as you understand the risks and are ready to take it, then of course. It's really easy to get lost inside your head and feel fucked up for quite some time. Unless you also don't mind a bad trip, which I think may be a good experience overall (not a pleasant one, but insightful).
But as you've tried DMT, I don't see why worry about LSD, you're already be well acquainted with the world of psychedelia
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Re: Thinking about trying acid, is it safe? [Re: Nocticula]
#14191497 - 03/27/11 10:45 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have gotten flashbacks and HPPD after trying LSD once. However, I took way too much (especially for a first timer) and had unusual extreme sensitivity to it. So yes it can happen, but keep in mind I was a very rare case. It's very unlikely the same will happen to you.
If you have tripped before, I think it will be fine. Start off with a small dose, lay down in a safe environment, let it kick in. If you're tripping hard, its not a great idea to walk around. Tripping hard on acid isn't something that's "fun", its a deep, profound experience. But once you're at a point of control, you can walk around and have fun.
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Re: Thinking about trying acid, is it safe? [Re: KingThorin]
#14191597 - 03/27/11 11:07 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Go for it! Yet don`t over do it. One average blotter will do the trick. Better buy from a trusted source,so you won`t end up with some RC.Think of everything ahead,set&setting is everything. And it is not only about the environment.Set and setting means also mindset :p  Btw you did DMT yet you are afraid of lsd?
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Re: Thinking about trying acid, is it safe? [Re: Damkina]
#14192189 - 03/27/11 01:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Damkina said: Btw you did DMT yet you are afraid of lsd?
Good point, was just about to say that. I can't offer any advice on LSD since I still haven't taken it yet. However, I do think that if you've had a couple of DMT trips, LSD should be no problem for you.
Although, I'm sure I would feel just as nervous as you are now if I had a couple of blotters/cubes in my hand. For me, I'd wait until I've experienced a full blown 3g or higher dose of mushrooms before trying LSD. So that makes you more than ready. Good vibes to you my friend....
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Re: Thinking about trying acid, is it safe? [Re: XeR0]
#14192215 - 03/27/11 01:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think the L scares some because of the sheer duration.
DMT is just 5 minutes. if you dont like the feeling, wait 30 seconds, if you still dont like it, 30 more.
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Re: Thinking about trying acid, is it safe? [Re: nickslick313]
#14192486 - 03/27/11 02:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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nickslick313 said: I'm alright with shrooms in that area because they aren't that visual, I mean after doing shrooms when I stare at the ground it may wave a little bit but its so miniscule that I don't care about it.
You should eat more shrooms. My most visual experiences have been with mushrooms. If you don't feel ready for Lucy, then don't do it.
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Re: Thinking about trying acid, is it safe? [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#14192794 - 03/27/11 03:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Acid is safe, has no long-term side-effects (other than enhancement of personal well-being, greater life satisfaction, awe and amazement at nature's and people's beauty, etc ), and is a wonderful experience. Just go into it with a positive attitude, the confidence to handle problems if they come up, and the flexibility to adapt to new situations, as best you can. You can learn those things from the experience too. Have fun
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Re: Thinking about trying acid, is it safe? [Re: Jabbawaya]
#14193548 - 03/27/11 05:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Y'all are missing the point of OP's post.
He's worried that LSD will be more likely to give him HPPD than other (i'm guessing) more "natural" psychedelics like DMT or shrooms.
And the answer is that ALL psychedelics have the potential to give you HPPD with about the same likelihood. If you're worried about getting HPPD, or permanently frying your brain, the best thing you can do is just not over do it.
Take reasonable doses, and do it infrequently. Once a month is IMO a safe frequency, but for some individuals this can still be too often. I, and many people here, have gone through phases of tripping every week or two for like a year or two straight. I personally began to lose touch with reality. When I was smoking DMT semi-regularly I started getting panic attacks and persistent anxiety.
But in the end most people will come out from this just fine. Now I trip only a few times a year on various psychedelics (mainly LSD, shrooms, DMT, and MDMA).
I used to have more prevalent permatrip, but now that I don't smoke weed or trip as often it's really pretty much non-existent. And even when it was stronger it didn't really bother me that much.
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Re: Thinking about trying acid, is it safe? [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
#14193593 - 03/27/11 05:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Or you can just not worry about HPPD until you actually show symptoms of having it?
I find that the people who read up on HPPD on the net and have a few tracers left the day after a trip, are usually the ones who will freak out thinking they have HPPD. Before I knew what HPPD was, it was never a worry in the world until I ate acid for months straight and was slightly perma-fried and wanted to know what it could be.
Seriously if you go into your very first acid trip worrying about HPPD your just 1000000000000 times more likely to have some kind of placebo effect and mentally freak yourself out if you get a few tracers the next day.
HPPD 99.9999999% of the time is just some lingering after effects, that are short lived and normally completely gone after you stop taking droogs for a while.
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Re: Thinking about trying acid, is it safe? [Re: Austrip]
#14193710 - 03/27/11 06:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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True.
HPPD is really just a form of PTSD which has lingering visual effects as the trigger for anxiety.
The main feature of HPPD as a "Disorder" is the anxiety associated with it. Plenty of people have lingering visual effects that either don't bother them, or which go away after a while of not tripping or smoking pot, or both. Doesn't mean your brain is damaged, or that you have a "disorder".
People really need to stop worrying about it so much. Just don't be a fucking idiot and don't:
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Austrip said: I ate acid for months straight
and you'll probably have nothing to worry about.
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