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highc
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dunking with pins?
#14186673 - 03/26/11 12:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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What would you use to hold the substrate down and not touch pins? I usually use water jugs to hold it down, but that's after all are picked. Right now i have some decent pins all over but they are hardly growing at all in 5 days.
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Re: dunking with pins? [Re: highc]
#14186690 - 03/26/11 12:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Dunking with pins is fine.
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Re: dunking with pins? [Re: highc]
#14186701 - 03/26/11 12:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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i normally use a small dinner plate, bottom side up.
it keeps them weighed down while still holding an air pocket to keep the plate from crushing them.
just me though.
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Re: dunking with pins? [Re: Synocybin]
#14186916 - 03/26/11 01:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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^^I like it! I personally prefer to clean out the tub and then pour water in it and soak overnight, with nothing holding it down. I also spray a nice fine mist over the casing before and after soaking to keep it hydrated. Good soak and no damage to pins....
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Re: dunking with pins? [Re: SpawnRun]
#14187133 - 03/26/11 02:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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So wait it just floats there? That can't be good
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Re: dunking with pins? [Re: highc]
#14187541 - 03/26/11 03:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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its difficult to explain.
find a medium sized plastic bowl that will fit your cakes in and fill it til the water runs over the top.
get a large plate that sits on top of/with out going into the bowl.
place the bottom part of the plate into the water, so it is in the water, while the wider top of the plate holds the hole thing from going in the water.
let sit for your dunking period, place back into FC.
disregard that last one.. i was pretty high and had my procedure all bassackwards and stupid.
thats how i used to do it until i started doing it this way ^^^
it holds all of your cakes completely under water and holds quite a few with the right sized bowl or what have you.
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Re: dunking with pins? [Re: Synocybin]
#14187719 - 03/26/11 04:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Im working with bulk. Montub to b exact.
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Re: dunking with pins? [Re: highc]
#14196316 - 03/28/11 04:46 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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What's wrong with it floating in the water? I used to go to all sorts of lengths to get my bulk substrates to stay under water, but in the past few years, I've noticed that it makes absolutely no difference in yield.
That said, I do really like Synocybin's idea....
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Re: dunking with pins? [Re: SpawnRun]
#14196556 - 03/28/11 07:32 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I agree with spawn. But you could always go and get some chicken wire or smaller mesh to hold them down. Use small tupperware containers and fill the water to the rim when you place the tops on them.
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Re: dunking with pins? [Re: Obey]
#14196588 - 03/28/11 07:40 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Not a bad idea either. I've used chicken wire to hold my shiitake blocks under water, which IS quite important IMO.
Again, with bulk subs (especially cased bulk subs), it really doesn't matter if you keep it under water, in my opinion.
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Re: dunking with pins? [Re: SpawnRun]
#14197771 - 03/28/11 12:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I picked maybe 70 grams n dunked it. Using the jugs full of water like i usually do. Its sitting on top of pins so we will just see how it goes. I am not using casing and its in dear need of water. And about just letting the substrate float, idt that's a good idea. But it worker for you right? N contams? That would be interesting.
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Re: dunking with pins? [Re: highc]
#14200276 - 03/28/11 08:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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All after a 8 hour dunk, most turned black. I pulled offba shit load and running fan full force for a couple hours. I see some turning darker! :/. Its alright though you live and learn. I just hope a second flush sprouts before contam.
But i did knock up my first wbs bag today. 4 pounds. Not perfectly happy with how innculation sent down but we will see.
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Re: dunking with pins? [Re: highc]
#14202328 - 03/29/11 05:10 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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This is from something that i heard from RR, but supposedly with subsequent dunks you only supposed to leave them in the water for 3-4 hours max. Dunking any longer causes the pins to die and you loose an entire flush. I'm getting close to dunking also but i'm slightly worried that pins might die. I've heard you just can inject 10cc of purified water into the cakes to rehydrate also, anybody had any luck with that?
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Re: dunking with pins? [Re: Obey]
#14202628 - 03/29/11 08:06 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've never Lost a pin on cakes from dunking. And really it was some of the bigger shrooms that died not so much the pins
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Re: dunking with pins? [Re: highc]
#14202851 - 03/29/11 09:33 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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That comforts me some because i gotta start a 2nd flush soon and i was worried about dunking.
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Re: dunking with pins? [Re: Obey]
#14202884 - 03/29/11 09:44 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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If u can't pick them with your thumb and index then dunk them. Talked me back to my cake days! Good times. I would get about 8 grams a cake with 2 dunks. 1 pints. Now my current BULK left me 7 grams maybe. Lol my worst yet
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Re: dunking with pins? [Re: highc]
#14202896 - 03/29/11 09:47 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Just dunk for 2 hours, & do it carefully.
Fuck injecting water into them.
It takes too long to sterilize the water. By the time you prep everything, water-syringe-etc. you could have just dunked them and been on with your day
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