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Discovered a new drug?
    #14186290 - 03/26/11 11:16 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

So this happened a while ago. My friend and I were experimenting with different drug combinations. This instance we decided to try and mix LSD with dxm. My friend put some LSD in his mouth than started on the cough syrup.  As soon as the syrup touched the hit in his mouth it expanded, popped and fizzed. The trip that ensued was fucking crazy. Heavy dissaciative feeling with amazing visuals. It was like hallucinating really hard in quadrovision. Meaning everything I saw was in pairs of four and moving violently. Cool trip though. What happened do you think. Was it an accidental discovery or did it not make a new substance an the trip was just synergistically enhanced.


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Re: Discovered a new drug? [Re: Cactilove]
    #14186339 - 03/26/11 11:25 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Discovered a new drug? [Re: Cactilove]
    #14186349 - 03/26/11 11:28 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Uhmm..I doubt that any actual chemical reaction could take place between DXM and LSD just like that. Maybe the sugar or something that the cough syrup  contained reacted with the blotter? Anyway sounds like a rocking combo,dxm dissociation + fuzzy feeling would go well with lsd. I`m concerned more about how the dxm bodyload would affect the lsd trip.


What about risks of serotonin syndrome?Mind you give us a little more details about the dosage?


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Re: Discovered a new drug? [Re: Damkina]
    #14186383 - 03/26/11 11:35 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Shit the body load can be awful I had another friend that tried it. He said he got really weak and though he would faint. He said reality was tearing apart in front of him. He spent the next few hours in his room seemingly sick as a dog but tripping the hardest he had ever tripped in his life. This was only after one hit of LSD and one 4 fl oz bottle of cough syrup tussin I believe. Just get the right bottle of cough syrup and drink all of it. Than pop one tab of LSD. I personally got no bad effect from this other than feeling a bit lethargic or sluggish. Well worth the trip. No lasting effects that I noticed. Only done it a couple times though. Is it time for a research study?


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Re: Discovered a new drug? [Re: Cactilove]
    #14186722 - 03/26/11 01:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Hey guys post some comments! Is this not exciting?


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Re: Discovered a new drug? [Re: Cactilove]
    #14186748 - 03/26/11 01:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Hey guys post some comments! Is this not exciting?




I don't mean to rain on your parade or anything, but it's not exactly new stuff, people have done this combination before many, many times. I'm sure there are at least a handful of trip reports out there, and I myself have done it once with 600 mg of DXM and two altoids. Yes it's intense, what else would you expect from mixing the two? It's certainly a mind-bending experience.


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Re: Discovered a new drug? [Re: Cactilove]
    #14186754 - 03/26/11 01:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The only thing that I`ve tried with DXM was weed, and I will never robotrip without it again. 750 mg DXM + dank  and the walls were running from me, full blown obe on the couch,etc. I guess it`s a pretty risky combinations. Would not lsd go way better with K or..why not MXE?


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Re: Discovered a new drug? [Re: Cactilove]
    #14186873 - 03/26/11 01:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Hey guys post some comments! Is this not exciting?




not really no, LSDMT is much more exiting IMO

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As soon as the syrup touched the hit in his mouth it expanded, popped and fizzed.




Doesn't sound like anything I'd want my acid to do as I'm consuming it. :shrug:


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Re: Discovered a new drug? [Re: Austrip]
    #14186976 - 03/26/11 01:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

LSD is a neat chemical!!


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Re: Discovered a new drug? [Re: Austrip]
    #14187027 - 03/26/11 02:07 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Lsdmt sounds like the shit! I know people have done this before, but my question is if it was reacting to actually make a new compound or weather it was just the two drugs combined.


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Re: Discovered a new drug? [Re: Cactilove]
    #14187076 - 03/26/11 02:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Lsdmt sounds like the shit! I know people have done this before, but my question is if it was reacting to actually make a new compound or weather it was just the two drugs combined.




Then no, it definitely was not. It was just the combination.


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Re: Discovered a new drug? [Re: Lunaria]
    #14187105 - 03/26/11 02:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Just asking how you know this? I highly doubt it was a reaction as well, but are there scientific findings that say LSD  can't bind with dxm


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Re: Discovered a new drug? [Re: Cactilove]
    #14187137 - 03/26/11 02:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Just asking how you know this? I highly doubt it was a reaction as well, but are there scientific findings that say LSD  can't bind with dxm




Because there is no chemical reaction going on to create anything new, your just mixing 2 substances together in your mouth. :crazy2:


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Re: Discovered a new drug? [Re: Austrip]
    #14187195 - 03/26/11 02:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

That's like saying if I mixed lye and water or baking soda and vinegar in my mouth I would't get a reaction. No I'm looking if there Is a fact on why LSD can't bind to dxm or some other ingrediant in cough syrup. I'm surprised enough everything in there didn't contribute to the destruction of LSD considering how unstable it is.


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Re: Discovered a new drug? [Re: Cactilove]
    #14187237 - 03/26/11 02:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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That's like saying if I mixed lye and water or baking soda and vinegar in my mouth I would't get a reaction





Not at all as all of things you mentioned above are precursor materials and can be used in chemistry to react one with the other.

LSD and DXM are already the products of a chemical reaction, & just putting the 2 in your mouth isn't going to create anything.


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Re: Discovered a new drug? [Re: Cactilove]
    #14187241 - 03/26/11 02:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I've had mixed experiences with DXM. This one time i took a little less than 400 mg (I weigh 200 lb) an felt myself flying through space but very little visuals. This other time I took about 800 mg and threw up, and laid down for the night with few hallucinations, but a lot of confusion/delusion. At one point of the "trip" (more like being really drunk really) I thought I was the brother form "My name is Earl"
.....but I might try again with some HBW seeds and see how that goes :mushroom2:


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Re: Discovered a new drug? [Re: Austrip]
    #14187339 - 03/26/11 03:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

So your basis is that because they already reacted they can't react again.....


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Re: Discovered a new drug? [Re: Cactilove]
    #14187370 - 03/26/11 03:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

No in a lab you could go through the process of turning LSD into ALD for example, but they don't react in your mouth with DXM and create magical new unicorn chemicals :rolleyes:


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Re: Discovered a new drug? [Re: Austrip]
    #14187411 - 03/26/11 03:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Lol why not? Has no one ever discovered a new drug by simply taking two substances and allowing them to come in contact with each other or does this never work and is impossible. Ima mix up som chemicals in peoples body cavities to make new substance lol.


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Re: Discovered a new drug? [Re: Cactilove]
    #14187418 - 03/26/11 03:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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That's like saying if I mixed lye and water or baking soda and vinegar in my mouth I would't get a reaction. No I'm looking if there Is a fact on why LSD can't bind to dxm or some other ingrediant in cough syrup. I'm surprised enough everything in there didn't contribute to the destruction of LSD considering how unstable it is.





lsd is actually stable. if hit with light or heat, yes it deteriorates. but in the regards to its chamical compisition it is stable...

if it wasnt it would change uppon contact with anything. and therefore would not be a drug.

and i mean who knows what bacteria he may have had in his mouth which can act as a catalyst to a reaction but i mean motor oil, gasoline, and a bannanna may form a powerful drug if synthesised correctly.

science is endless if you have anyexperience with these kinds of things.


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Re: Discovered a new drug? [Re: Cactilove]
    #14187444 - 03/26/11 03:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Is this not exciting?



No.

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...my question is if it was reacting to actually make a new compound...

...So your basis is that because they already reacted they can't react again...



Do some reading on organic chemistry, maybe?


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Re: Discovered a new drug? [Re: German Kahuna]
    #14187966 - 03/26/11 05:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

not trying to be rude =/ i just read that again i must work on that trait. its possible it changed and then again its not. just depends on  perfect situations even if discovered by chance. =]


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Re: Discovered a new drug? [Re: lancasterpunk29]
    #14187996 - 03/26/11 05:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: Discovered a new drug? [Re: German Kahuna]
    #14188038 - 03/26/11 05:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Dissociatives mixed with anything is beyond insane. Ketamine and salvia is :eek:.


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Re: Discovered a new drug? [Re: Grapefruit]
    #14188147 - 03/26/11 06:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Pills are soooooooo much easier than syrup imo. I'm looking forward to dxm and LSD though, just gotta find the LSD part.


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Re: Discovered a new drug? [Re: Joolz]
    #14190271 - 03/27/11 02:39 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:tongue2: adulterant/sugar reaction for sure. Hmm adding a hit of liquid lsd to a pharmahuasca might be awesome! But that hit would be enough for a hard ride on it`s own. Adding the tryptamine(DMT) potentiation and ofcourse,the harmaline hcl(or whatever maoi is used) will also potentiate LSD. Maybe lower the dmt dose and add like 50-60 ug only?


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Re: Discovered a new drug? [Re: Damkina]
    #14192621 - 03/27/11 02:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Shit I don't know shit about LSD and maoi's doesn't immediately seem to be a good idea due to possible complications though. Lol try it and let me know if you live. I'm sure you will.


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Re: Discovered a new drug? [Re: Cactilove]
    #14192889 - 03/27/11 03:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Shit I don't know shit about LSD and maoi's doesn't immediately seem to be a good idea due to possible complications though.




For the record LSD, like pure LSD that you know is legit, should be perfectly fine to mix with MAOIs, there shouldn't be any physical complications. But I would be very cautious about mixing anything sold as acid today with MAOIs, no matter how sure you are that what you have is good unless you were around back in the day to test guaranteed LSD. Acid may be safe to mix with it, but many things people pass off as it could be potentially extremely dangerous.


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Re: Discovered a new drug? [Re: Lunaria]
    #14193519 - 03/27/11 05:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yup


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