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Is joining the military worth it?
#14185301 - 03/26/11 02:40 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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is it ? I know once you sign your fucked if you dont like it but you can always do drugs to get out .I have some freinds that said it was a good exsperience but they would never do it again
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Re: Is joining the military worth it? [Re: goblinshark]
#14185304 - 03/26/11 02:41 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Depends. Do you like getting shot at and being somebody's bitch?
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Re: Is joining the military worth it? [Re: goblinshark]
#14185306 - 03/26/11 02:41 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Depends if you get shot in the head, end up mentally scarred from the acts you were forced to do, or come out unscathed 
It's quite a risk. I would never do it unless my country was fighting for something I believed in.
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Re: Is joining the military worth it? [Re: twighead]
#14185311 - 03/26/11 02:45 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Is joining the military worth it? [Re: goblinshark]
#14185317 - 03/26/11 02:47 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Is joining the military worth it? [Re: goblinshark]
#14185318 - 03/26/11 02:48 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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If you want to travel, and see some shit, join the Navy. its a lot of fucking hard work, but if you are reasonably intelligent you can get some technical training, (electronics, etc) and you will also get money for college afterwards. if you are single, go for it.
I been to about 20 countries when I was in the Navy, and fuck do they every have good drugs. I've had stimulants all over asia, pot all over asia, and really, really dank hashish in Italy and Spain. Of course, now they have piss tests. Even had China White (fentanyl) from singapore, and thai stick. Don't fuck up in singapore though unless you want your ass beat with a bamboo cane.
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Re: Is joining the military worth it? [Re: goblinshark]
#14185321 - 03/26/11 02:53 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Is joining the military worth it? [Re: Devlish2]
#14185324 - 03/26/11 02:56 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Devlish2 said: Depends. Do you like getting shot at and being somebody's bitch?
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Re: Is joining the military worth it? [Re: goblinshark]
#14185330 - 03/26/11 03:00 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I was really into the Marines about a year ago, I realized its not for me..
Yeah, you will get out if you do drugs, but you will get a dishonorable discharge, do your research on what a dishonorable discharge is, its NOT GOOD.
What branch are you thinking about?
If its the Marine's, do not join just for the benefits(unless you want to hate your life).
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Re: Is joining the military worth it? [Re: Zardos]
#14185392 - 03/26/11 03:34 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Trust me they will not kick you out for pissing hot. All they will do is demote you. With that you will lose money and have a shit ton of extra duty for awhile. You can piss hot SEVERAL times before you get kicked out. God don't try using the crazy card either they will just keep you locked up till you're "better".
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Re: Is joining the military worth it? [Re: marbletulip]
#14185442 - 03/26/11 04:22 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't know what military you served in, but I was in before piss tests, and eventually became 'one strike you are out'
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Re: Is joining the military worth it? [Re: marbletulip]
#14185474 - 03/26/11 04:43 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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marbletulip said: Trust me they will not kick you out for pissing hot. All they will do is demote you. With that you will lose money and have a shit ton of extra duty for awhile. You can piss hot SEVERAL times before you get kicked out. God don't try using the crazy card either they will just keep you locked up till you're "better".
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Re: Is joining the military worth it? [Re: Zardos]
#14185512 - 03/26/11 05:09 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Why not just use fake piss? Problem solved
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Re: Is joining the military worth it? [Re: goblinshark]
#14185522 - 03/26/11 05:22 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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They can test you randomly.
And I don't know how it works when your IN the military, but when I went to MEPS (a military processing center) to take a piss test, they pretty much stare at your penis as you fill the cup.
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Re: Is joining the military worth it? [Re: Zardos]
#14185523 - 03/26/11 05:23 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Zardos said: ...when I went to MEPS (a military processing center) to take a piss test, they pretty much stare at your penis as you fill the cup.
I went to a military processing center once, and they let me have my privacy while I pissed in the cup.
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Re: Is joining the military worth it? [Re: Poid]
#14185530 - 03/26/11 05:27 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Was this recently?
I did this about a year ago.
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Re: Is joining the military worth it? [Re: Zardos]
#14185534 - 03/26/11 05:30 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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No, this was like 2-3 years ago; FYI, I was applying for the Marines.
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Re: Is joining the military worth it? [Re: Poid]
#14185550 - 03/26/11 05:42 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ohh, well I guess it varies. By the way, I love the quote in your sig! 
Anyways, if the first thing your thinking about is how to get out..I don't think you should join the military..just my $0.02
Edit:fireworks_god!
-------------------- December 1960: "They took the drug one evening at Leary's house and had a profound experience, during which Ginsburg prophetically realized that it was a time to start "a peace and love movement". He then ran naked around the house, attempted to get Kruschev and Kennedy on the telephone and announced to the operator that he was God."
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Re: Is joining the military worth it? [Re: Zardos]
#14185556 - 03/26/11 05:44 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Zardos said: By the way, I love the quote in your sig! 
The one by Bob Dylan, or the one by fireworks_god? 
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Zardos said: Anyways, if the first thing your thinking about is how to get out..I don't think you should join the military..just my $0.02

-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: Is joining the military worth it? [Re: marbletulip]
#14185568 - 03/26/11 05:51 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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My friend joined navy for college $$$. They dishonorably discharged him right before the two year pay day for having smoked a joint a year before.
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Re: Is joining the military worth it? [Re: aris]
#14188178 - 03/26/11 06:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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no, its not.
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Re: Is joining the military worth it? [Re: domite]
#14188257 - 03/26/11 06:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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after knowing someone who's a career guy, been enlisted for 13 years, officer, went to college via the gi bill, green and gold program etc, and having been a civilian in a military family serving overseas (ex wife works for the navy), i'd have to say not just no, but fuck no.
one thing to remember when dealing with the military is that anything they promise you in the way of perks is, at best, going be about 10% as good as what they say with a bunch of bullshit attached to it that they you don't find out until after the fact.
if you think being in the military would be a good career for you and you have a sense of duty to your country that you feel needs fulfilling, then by all means join. if you just need money for school or whatever, get a loan.
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Re: Is joining the military worth it? [Re: millzy]
#14188275 - 03/26/11 06:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I was in the airport once, in uniform, and some lady started talking to me about her kid. She said her son had just joined the Navy, and that he was going to be going to be in the Navy Band, after he finished going to school to become a Boatswain's Mate. She said, the recruiter promised him...
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Re: Is joining the military worth it? [Re: goblinshark]
#14188284 - 03/26/11 06:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Is joining the military worth it? [Re: justin340]
#14188291 - 03/26/11 06:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Boatswain's Mate is so ghey
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Re: Is joining the military worth it? [Re: Coaster]
#14188295 - 03/26/11 06:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Not as fucking gay as gunner's mate.
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Re: Is joining the military worth it? [Re: millzy]
#14188325 - 03/26/11 06:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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millzy said: one thing you have to remember when dealing with the military is that anything they promise you in the way of perks is, at best, going be about 10% as good as what they say
i dunno man. im getting paid to go to college right now because my dad went to iraq after 9/11 and then retired later on (due to age, not because he was horrified or something).
i get paid enough that my tuition is technically free, my rent is paid every month, so are my utilities, and my food costs are covered as well, with a little extra if i manage my money just right. i dont have to do shit and i live good as hell, all because my dad was the man and did what most people on this forum seem to think isnt beneficial to anyone and isnt a 'good' job to have.
not to mention that when you have a decent rank in the military you get paid an assload of money. my brother is 28 and has so much money laying around that he bought a $12,000 watch on a whim. he has 2 cars, and an expensive as hell house. he lives a fuckin dream right now. i cant imagine having that much money when im 28.
the military isnt for me, but you wont ever catch me saying that the military doesnt set you up for monetary success and benefit your entire family.
@OP: nobody on this forum will be able to tell you if joining the military is "worth it". its a personal decision, and it depends on whether that is your thing or not.
edit: keep this in mind as well, most everyone here is extremely biased against the military, and they love to spread misinformation (as in the post i quoted, which claims the military's benefits dont live up to what they promise)
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Re: Is joining the military worth it? [Re: starfire_xes]
#14188338 - 03/26/11 06:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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the navy or air force is, like someone else said. But you'd need to choose a good field or tech skill but it'll most likely still be a middle class type job. Unless your training to work at nasa or some high paying field. Its all a big ass joke filled with hypocrisy tho with alotta lame ass hateful people running the show.
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I know a guy who was infantry in the Army and he sat around playing WoW 6 hours a day.
Most people here will tell you the military is bad, because it's not shroomy brah
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i suppose it does work out for some, but for me i experienced A LOT of b/s with our move and getting set up in another country. and after hearing all of the horror stories from my friend who i've known since he was a kid before he enlisted at 18, i just don't see the benefit of it.
that's not a slight against our soldiers btw. i'm proud to have played even a small role in it, even if i disagree with some of my country's politics, and i have nothing but love for the guys out there fighting. i sincerely mean that. i'm just extremely unimpressed with how the armed forces are run administratively, which by my estimation is by people with shit for brains. i think the crux of the problem is the department of defense's involvement.
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