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Re: Xbox360 or Playstation 3? [Re: CosmicFool]
#14190974 - 03/27/11 07:59 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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mongo lloyd said: There are no black and white buttons anymore. And the dpad is easy to use. PS controllers are just too small and light
how do you play the games that required b+w buttons?
They have been changed to the left and right bumpers, which are just in front of the triggers. The same as L1 and R1 on the ps, or what ever theyre called
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Re: Xbox360 or Playstation 3? [Re: mongo lloyd]
#14190981 - 03/27/11 08:01 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yup, they're called LB and RB.
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Re: Xbox360 or Playstation 3? [Re: mongo lloyd]
#14191087 - 03/27/11 08:39 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Anthony917 said: Where's the Wii option also?! I have a wii and really all I use it for is Super Smash Bros Brawl but that's enough reason for me to own the system.

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citricacidx said: And the controller???


So the xbox has improved and refined their controller, while the PS3 has made no attempt to improve or change it at all. The 360 controller feels a lot less cheap than the PS3 controller.
the ps3 controller has more technology inside of it than the entire 360.
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Re: Xbox360 or Playstation 3? [Re: CosmicFool]
#14192375 - 03/27/11 01:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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CosmicFool said: I thought it was pretty obvious he was saying the Playstation controller hasn't needed a changed since the PSX days
Exactly. All they've done is added more triggers, 2 joy sticks, and rumble feature. but the shape of it has never needed a redesign
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Olympus Mons said: the ps3 controller has more technology inside of it than the entire 360.
I know this to be true because I recently had to repair a controller that my floor broke when I threw it at the floor.
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Re: Xbox360 or Playstation 3? [Re: citricacidx]
#14192747 - 03/27/11 02:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I know this to be true because I recently had to repair a controller that my floor broke when I threw it at the floor.
lol, you should speak spanish, the self-reflexive verbs always absolve you of responsibility.
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Re: Xbox360 or Playstation 3? [Re: CosmicJoke]
#14192769 - 03/27/11 03:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I know this to be true because I recently had to repair a controller that my floor broke when I threw it at the floor.
lol, you should speak spanish, the self-reflexive verbs always absolve you of responsibility.
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Re: Xbox360 or Playstation 3? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#14193273 - 03/27/11 04:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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makaveli8x8 said: so you can play console ports on it?
I don't know that I find the term "Console ports" accurate anymore. of course a game is a game, and PC runs it better and allows for use of a gamepad and sometimes both at the same time. so i just use a custom PC i built myself.
PC as an overall Media device attached to a TV is way better than a console.
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I recently was faced with this decision. I have owned two 360's in the past and both have red ringed slightly after the warranty was up so that was lame. So, this time I went with the ps3 slim mainly just in hopes that the lifespan would be longer.
Things I miss about the Xbox: The controller (although I am slowly getting used to the PS controller), Halo, Ipod compatibility (you have to get into the Ipod's directory on PS whereas Xbox is just plug and play), and Xbox's online setup and community was slightly better.
PS pros IMO: Free online gaming, Blu-ray, I am told by the fanboys PS3 has more power potential, the machine doesn't make nearly as much noise and is more aesthetically pleasing.
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makaveli8x8 said: so you can play console ports on it?
I don't know that I find the term "Console ports" accurate anymore.
im confused why is that not accurate?
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Re: Xbox360 or Playstation 3? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#14194237 - 03/27/11 08:07 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Console ports isn't appropriate because when a game is designed, they code it once usually with something like OpenGL thats cross platform. Computer versions if games just take a little longer to come out sometimes because the hardware in 1 Xbox 360 as it is in another. Same with the PS3. 1 computer rarely has the exact same hardware configuration as another. Some they have to test it and make minimum requirements and such.
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Re: Xbox360 or Playstation 3? [Re: citricacidx]
#14194258 - 03/27/11 08:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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citricacidx said: Console ports isn't appropriate because when a game is designed, they code it once usually with something like OpenGL thats cross platform..
what you just described is the exact definition of a console port...
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Re: Xbox360 or Playstation 3? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#14194389 - 03/27/11 08:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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citricacidx said: Console ports isn't appropriate because when a game is designed, they code it once usually with something like OpenGL thats cross platform..
what you just described is the exact definition of a console port...
No. Coding something once to run on multiple systems is just good coding. Taking a game that already exists and having to rework it for another system is porting it.
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Re: Xbox360 or Playstation 3? [Re: citricacidx]
#14194403 - 03/27/11 08:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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no what you described is porting, designing a game specifically for each system is what they "used" to do.
Edit: P.S. and i know what your "trying" to say, your describing crysis 2, and by the way that is the biggest fail, most disappointing game in pc history, because its a port.
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Re: Xbox360 or Playstation 3? [Re: eloC]
#14194450 - 03/27/11 08:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's alot easier to softmod a ps3 in my opinion. you copy a couple files to a flash drive and it takes about 20 minutes of your time if that.
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rubber johnny said: It's alot easier to softmod a ps3 in my opinion. you copy a couple files to a flash drive and it takes about 20 minutes of your time if that.
not if you've upgraded. and if you like playing online, you've upgraded.
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Re: Xbox360 or Playstation 3? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#14194555 - 03/27/11 08:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Gonna have to disagree with you. Here's an example of a port, Dragon Age 2 for Mac - the game was designed for Windows, and uses Cider (a wrapper) that allows the game to run natively on os x without any changes in source code. Observe the DragonAge2.exe file within the .app's package contents.
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Re: Xbox360 or Playstation 3? [Re: CosmicJoke]
#14194569 - 03/27/11 08:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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unless the game was designed from the ground up with the system in mind its a port, thats why all the pc games have been shit ever since this generation of consoles.
the closest game that comes to what you guys are saying is crysis 2 and the entire web is breaking down cryteks doors saying its a port, so obviously you guys are wrong.
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Re: Xbox360 or Playstation 3? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#14194614 - 03/27/11 09:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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No, when an application is designed to run on just one platform, and is converted to run on a different platform, this is porting. More video games today are being developed using software that can output code for PCs as well as well as multiple consoles without the need for actual porting.
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Re: Xbox360 or Playstation 3? [Re: CosmicJoke]
#14194647 - 03/27/11 09:07 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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thats just a new fancy way to port, and is exactly what i just said about crysis 2, and people are breaking down cryteks doors. The game is being fucked up by consoles because its being designed for them. it doesn't matter what program is used to make the game, its being made for the consoles, and ported to the pc, just because it does it in realtime now doesn't mean shit.
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Re: Xbox360 or Playstation 3? [Re: makaveli8x8]
#14194872 - 03/27/11 09:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wikipedia said: Porting is also the term used when a computer game designed to run on one platform, be it a personal computer or a video game console, is converted to run on a different platform. Earlier video game "ports" were often not true ports, but rather reworked versions of the games. However, more and more video games are now being developed using software that can output code for PCs as well as for one or more consoles without the need for actual porting. Many early ports suffered significant gameplay quality issues because the hardware of PCs and consoles differed so dramatically.
Arcade perfect is a term used to describe video games which have been ported from an arcade version to another platform, such as a console, without any alterations to the game's workings. This means that graphics, sound and gameplay, along with the game's other characteristics, are identical to the arcade version.
"Console Port" has been dubbed as a term specifically used to describe a game that has been previously made for a console (such as PS3 or Xbox 360) an making an identical version that can be played on a personal computer. This term has been widely used by the gaming community, primarily in a negative way due to the higher levels of performance that computers had during that generation of gaming.
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