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BothHands
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Re: Substitutes for MDMA [Re: Run]
#14184881 - 03/26/11 12:02 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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You can look into 5-methyl-MDA.
I'm not sure anyone's synthing it reliably yet though. But there has been talk about people in China trying, and I've heard of at least one good batch that made it here to the US.
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Run
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Re: Substitutes for MDMA [Re: BothHands]
#14185039 - 03/26/11 12:53 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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That Tire cleaner sounds interesting.... I think I might wanna try that. I think I would do well with cleaning tires.
But nobody has answered how MDMAI is, not mdai.
I was reading, "It acts as a non-neurotoxic and highly selective serotonin releasing agent (SSRA) in animals and a putative entactogen in humans.[1]" Maybe that mixed with Methylone .
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Re: Substitutes for MDMA [Re: Run]
#14185063 - 03/26/11 01:00 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Run said: That Tire cleaner sounds interesting.... I think I might wanna try that. I think I would do well with cleaning tires.
But nobody has answered how MDMAI is, not mdai.
I was reading, "It acts as a non-neurotoxic and highly selective serotonin releasing agent (SSRA) in animals and a putative entactogen in humans.[1]" Maybe that mixed with Methylone .
It seems very very unpopular. I wouldn't bother with it.
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=458579 this is the most info I could find.
It might be like MDAI? idk it probably going to be a dissapointment. Shouldn't mess with rc's unless allot of people have tested it and theres lots of info on it.
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Edited by tospace (03/26/11 01:02 AM)
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Run
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Re: Substitutes for MDMA [Re: tospace]
#14185077 - 03/26/11 01:06 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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true.
Apparently you cant get tire cleaner in US aanymore. Dam I really wanted to clean my tires
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Dosile Kouki
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Re: Substitutes for MDMA [Re: Run]
#14185140 - 03/26/11 01:24 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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GHB has a really bad stigma assosciated with it though. Alot of people avoid it like the black plague.
You know its a date rape drug right?
And if a person take too much it puts them into a coma.
In australia if you get charged with a large quantity of GHB you don't just get a trafficking charge you get an attempted murder charge also because of how dangerous it is.
It's not all sunshine and lollypops.
But it was used in hospitals as an anaesthetic for a while, so it cant so bad if doctors and whatnot were using it.
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tospace


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Re: Substitutes for MDMA [Re: Run]
#14185162 - 03/26/11 01:30 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Run said: true.
Apparently you cant get tire cleaner in US aanymore. Dam I really wanted to clean my tires
Are you sure, Where did you find that info? The vendor I found still ships to the US I think.
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Dosile Kouki
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Re: Substitutes for MDMA [Re: tospace]
#14185187 - 03/26/11 01:42 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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people i know used to get it from the U.K. apparently
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Run
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my source is I searched for vendors, and couldn't find one. Most have disclaimer "do not ship to etc , etc ,etc , USA " And yes I know Ive been curios about trying it I am fairly knowleadagable about it, and no one cannot be irresponsible and us tire cleaner .
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Edited by Run (03/26/11 02:17 AM)
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Dosile Kouki
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Re: Substitutes for MDMA [Re: Run]
#14185332 - 03/26/11 03:03 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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it tastes like ass also. maybe not as bad as san pedro but its pretty damn bad. the tastes stains your mouth for a few minutes also.
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Nunbuh_Chrubble
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Do I have to be the first to say this?
There IS NO SUBSTITUTE for good, clean, pure MDMA.
Except maybe sassafrass...
but srsly. MDMA is MDMA, and anything that makes you feel even close to similarly is either really dangerous, or it will make you feel geeked and tweeked with a shitty comedown, or both.
Don't be ordering fucking tire cleaner, or some sketchy ass analogues from china...
If you need help being more social then drink some beer.
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Dosile Kouki
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yeah, mdma is the best of the best really. and i've done alot of drugs. mdma is the beez kneez, no disputing that. haha.
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DosileFlynn said: GHB has a really bad stigma assosciated with it though. Alot of people avoid it like the black plague.
You know its a date rape drug right?
And if a person take too much it puts them into a coma.
In australia if you get charged with a large quantity of GHB you don't just get a trafficking charge you get an attempted murder charge also because of how dangerous it is.
It's not all sunshine and lollypops.
But it was used in hospitals as an anaesthetic for a while, so it cant so bad if doctors and whatnot were using it.
GHB has had a really bad rap but it really is NOT that bad. Taken alone, it CANNOT kill you. If you mix it with alcohol yes it can but so can sleeping pills.
It is a "date rape" drug in the same way they say Ketamine is. It is NOT tasteless, in fact it tastes like salty ass. Its VERY hard to disguise it in a drink.
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Well, I don't want to be more social, that is not the goal.
I just want to experience the effects of it
and as another user reported its gbl , then converts into gh b.
Even if I wanted to, i couldn't order it nobody ships here.
I find mdma boaring and I don't get the euphoria, or anything even with pure stuff.
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Re: Substitutes for MDMA [Re: Run]
#14194187 - 03/27/11 08:00 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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that happens when you abuse it too much. sadly i wish someone was around to tell me not to do too much of it or else it will ruin the magic. but oh well ! it's my price to pay for indulging too much.
you don't have to order ghb/gbl its easily obtainable in any city. its fairly common around raves and funnily enough gay clubs too.
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Re: Substitutes for MDMA [Re: Run]
#14194306 - 03/27/11 08:20 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've heard low doses of mescaline cactus (maybe in combination with some MAOI) are similar to MDMA. On another forum "A low amount of mescaline (peyote), with caapi and theobromine is by far the best XTC substitute there is. It beats the 'real thing' by far."
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Re: Substitutes for MDMA [Re: flickedbic]
#14194333 - 03/27/11 08:24 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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You don't need caapi or theobromine. A dose of bridgesii is like MDMA on its own. It's like a candy flip that's heavy on the MDMA.
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