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 MuShi_KiNg
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 SHrooms legal in the uk ? 
#1418494 - 03/30/03 03:35 PM (20 years, 8 months ago) |
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Are shrooms legal in the uk ?
i just moved over here from south africa !!
and bought 3 grams of cubes for ?44 expensive in a shop in camdeon i dont want to mention it name but it hudge they sell packs of 15 grams they got cati as well i mean they growing the shrooms in full sight not trying to hide it so i was just wondering what the rules where over here ? thanks guys
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 zeta
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 Re: SHrooms legal in the uk ? [Re: MuShi_KiNg]
#1418642 - 03/30/03 05:21 PM (20 years, 8 months ago) |
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Fresh mushrooms are legal in Britain. Dried mushrooms are theoretically Class A but apparently they usually turn a blind eye.(That means cultivation is legal too)
I can't believe you paid ?44 for 3 measley grams.
Edited by zeta (03/30/03 05:32 PM)
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Xibalba
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Re: SHrooms legal in the uk ? [Re: zeta]
#1418658 - 03/30/03 05:30 PM (20 years, 8 months ago) |
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What he said- you got ripped off hardcore.
Especially when there's no reason to buy mushrooms there anyway- just grow them- I certainly would, but I live in California where even spores are illegal, and the Federal government seems to be getting more nosy and draconian by the minute.
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LiBerAtedCapSter
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Re: SHrooms legal in the uk ? [Re: Xibalba]
#1419398 - 03/31/03 05:37 AM (20 years, 8 months ago) |
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yeah shrooms are legal, i have a couple of grow kits, that you can buy from places like http://www.kingbong.com for around ?25 ....thats harsh dude, u got ripped off badly! ...and liberty caps (p.semilanceata) grow naturally all over the uk in fields etc around september/octber time....if you can wait that long for some free shroom..
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TANZWUT
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freash are llegal but if dried or prepared in any way is illegal. however i was talking to a cop and he said that if dried and still whole is in the gray. so that is straight form the horses mouth. well this is a scottish police and i knwo that laws are different from england and wales cuz personal useage of weed is llegal but up here they didnt vote to decriminalize it.
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mjshroomer
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Re: SHrooms legal in the uk ? [Re: TANZWUT]
#1419960 - 03/31/03 01:52 PM (20 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have no idea what that TANWUT just said.
Sounds like Small Putrid in England.
So I Will say it with proof.
Fresh mushrooms are legal to possess and you can also legaly grow P. cubensis.
Here are three articles verifying those claims.
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The Times
April 14, 1976, Page 4.
Hallucinatory Fungi not Illegal, Judge Rules
On the Judges direction, a jury at Reading Crown Court yesterday decided
that it is not illegal to posses a common fungus found growing in Britain
even though it contains a drug, psilocin, with similar hallucinatory effects
to LSD
The court was told that Psilocybe fungi were found in the possession of
Michael Garland, aged 19, a civil servant, and his landlady at the time,
Mrs. Lois Wilkinson, aged 21, when drug squad officers went to their home
in College Road, Reading. Both pleaded not guilty to possessing the drug
Mr. Richard Jenkins, for the prosecution, said the main issue was whether
possession of the fungi amounted to possession of the drug
Mr. Michael Tillett, for the defense, submitted that it did not. He said
that substances listed as Class A drugs were found growing in a common
toadstool, some flower seeds, and even a toad
Judge Blomfield directed the jury to find Michael Garland not guilty and
said the same applied to Mrs. Wilkinson
He said: "it may or may not be that you can get psilocin out of the mushroom.
But psilocin is a chemical and mushrooms are not. You cannot on the evidence,
find this man guilty of possessing psilocin in these circumstances."
Mr. Garland pleaded guilty to possessing Cannabis and was bound over for
two years in the sum of 50 pounds.
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The Times
Thursday December 29, 1977, Page 2
Magistrate Baffled Over Drug in Mushroom
A mushroom that apparently infringes an Act of Parliament baffled Mr.
St John Harmsworth, at Marlborough Street Magistrates' Court, London,
yesterday, when he heard that the legal position was unsolved
The tiny mushrooms can be found growing in such places as Clapham Common
and Hyde Park, the court was told, but if taken would produce similar
effects to LSD
Michael Clear was charged under the Misuse of Drugs Act, 1971, said the
mushrooms could be eaten with toast. The magistrate said: "I have never
heard of these mushrooms before. There is no legal decision about this
at all.:
"I am told they grow in Hyde Park. I am going to dismiss the charge and
if they want to make legal history someone can appeal my decision to see
what the position is
Mr. Clear, aged 25, a squatter living at Rectory Gardens, Clapham, had
pleaded guilty, so the magistrate granted him an absolute discharge. Mr.
Clear, who also admitted the illegal possession of 2.99 grams of Cannabis
resin, and was fined 15 pounds, had been found with about fifty mushrooms
when searched in the West End
Quoting from a leaflet provided by the police laboratory, Mr. Harmsworth
said the mushrooms grew freely in the United Kingdom, particularly in
the wetter western districts. The leaflet read: "Legal advice should be
taken in respect of any possible charges relating to these mushrooms,
as the legal position is unresolved at the moment."
The mushrooms were usually eaten, the dose being two to three grams, equivalent
to 20 to 30 mushrooms. Mr. Clear had been charged with illegally having
5.5 grams of Ppsilocybin, a Class A drug found in the mushrooms.
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The New Scientist
April 7, 1983, Page 4.
High Times as magic Mushrooms go to Court By Mick hammer.
Hallucinogenic mushrooms can be legally grown in Britain, a judge ruled
last week in a test case. Kelvin Curtis, 31, was charged at Snaresbrook
Crown Court in east London with producing or attempting to produce a Class
A drug, psilocyn. This drug is banned under the 1971 Misuse of Drugs Act.
Curtis faced a maximum sentence of 14 years in prison because he had been
growing Psilocybe cubensis, or "magic mushrooms" as they were called in
court. The mushrooms contain psilocyn. Both defence and the prosecution
agreed on the main facts of the case
However, after hearing legal arguments the judge, Clive callman, said
that the law was ambiguous. Although the pure drug was banned it was not
certain whether a naturally-occurring substance containing the drug wa
illegal. The judge directed the jury to aquit Curtis. The Metropolitan
Police, which brought the case, has 28 days in which to take the case
to a higher court
When arrested, Curtis told police that he had obtained the mushroom spores
for 3 pounds form an American magazine High Times. He germinated the spores
in dishes containing agar jelly, then transferred the spores to Kilner
jars which contained rye grains. Once the fungus had begun to grow, he
covered the growth to a 1 cm depth with a mixture of "dirt", chalk, peat
and sand. Curtis told police, that he sometimes pressure-cooked the mixture
to sterilize it
He watered the jars once a day and the mushrooms appeared after about
a month "if you were lucky.." Curtis said he learned how to grow the mushrooms
from a widely available book called the Mushroom Growers' Guide
Police asked him how much he took to "get a buzz." He said the most he
had ever taken was 50 grams
The crux of the case was a legal argument about whether the phrases "products
and subtances" in the 1971 act, which are not defined, include the mushrooms
Prosecution experts said the mushrooms were a product and substance, but
agreed that the words could have differnet meanings. The defence relied
heavily on the legal precedent of Goodchild in the House of Lords in 1978,
where Lord Diplock ruled that it was not illegal to possess naturally-occurring
substances even if they contained a controlled drug
As the law now stands it is legal to grow the mushrooms, and eat them
fresh, but illegal to prepare them in any way--even by cooking. Mushrooms
containing the drug psilocyn grow all over Britain, notabnly on Hampstead
Heath
Curtis told police when arrested: I'd like to be recognized for making
the planet a better place to live in.
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There are three news clippings on the status of shrooms in England.
mj
Edited by mjshroomer (03/31/03 01:58 PM)
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TANZWUT
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Re: SHrooms legal in the uk ? [Re: mjshroomer]
#1419967 - 03/31/03 01:58 PM (20 years, 8 months ago) |
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sorry waht i said was fresh is legal, dried whole mushrooms is in the gray area of the law, and if prepared in any way is illegal.
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Xlea321
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Re: SHrooms legal in the uk ? [Re: MuShi_KiNg]
#1421982 - 04/01/03 11:27 PM (20 years, 8 months ago) |
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There's something known as an offence of production. That means if you wrap the fresh mushrooms it counts as being altered by the hand of man and they become illegal. If the cops were interested they could bust you, but it seems to be a low priority.
?44 for 3 grams? Is that fresh grams?!?
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LiBerAtedCapSter
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Re: SHrooms legal in the uk ? [Re: Xlea321]
#1422873 - 04/02/03 10:31 AM (20 years, 8 months ago) |
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even if it was 3 dry grams i wouldnt pay that!!!!
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TANZWUT
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shit man my firend sold a dry gram a euro and people payed lots for it. but u only needed about 2 grams to ahev a really good trip.
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MuShi_KiNg
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Re: SHrooms legal in the uk ? [Re: TANZWUT]
#1466261 - 04/17/03 03:41 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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i know thats expoensive :>
i bought it more as a novilty :>
no it was 30 grams wet :>
as i said it was more of a novilty :>
iv been goriwng shrooms for about 3 years and i come over to the uk saw them growing in a shop and was dazzled :> so i bought them :>
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Re: SHrooms legal in the uk ? [Re: mjshroomer]
#1466308 - 04/17/03 04:48 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks for the clippings MJ, I especially like the way The New Scientist outlines the method involved in growing mushrooms:
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When arrested, Curtis told police that he had obtained the mushroom spores
for 3 pounds form an American magazine High Times. He germinated the spores
in dishes containing agar jelly, then transferred the spores to Kilner
jars which contained rye grains. Once the fungus had begun to grow, he
covered the growth to a 1 cm depth with a mixture of "dirt", chalk, peat
and sand. Curtis told police, that he sometimes pressure-cooked the mixture
to sterilize it
He watered the jars once a day and the mushrooms appeared after about
a month "if you were lucky.." Curtis said he learned how to grow the mushrooms
from a widely available book called the Mushroom Growers' Guide
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