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InvisibleGhostwriter

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dried san pedro pleaseee
    #14184074 - 03/25/11 09:06 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

so today i got 25 grams of san pedro cactus in the mail,
ive done my searching on it ive read threads before but want some more and better opinions on it..

will 25 grams even be enough to have a good trip on?

i have some syrian rue i was thinking about mixing with it, good idea?

im also debating on waiting and ordering some more san pedro or t bridgesii and doing possibly about 2oz of dried powder and mixing the 2 kinds of cactus and getting a higher dose because ive read that 25 grams isnt a very good experience..

when i get to eating it i plan to powder the cactus and make into a dough and form into little balls and freeze them, after freezing take out of freezer and down them like pills with some water

when i make into a dough what would be best to liquify it?
-orange juice
-squeezed or bottled lemon juice
-squeezed or bottled lime juice

so what do you guys think should i,
-take the 25 grams and see what happens
-take the 25 grams with some syrian rue
-order more cactus and wait and hope that it was the right choice
-order more cactus and take alot more cactus with some syrian rue also???

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Re: dried san pedro pleaseee [Re: Ghostwriter]
    #14184116 - 03/25/11 09:15 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Do your own research, please. Go to erowid and pull up the alkaloid content range of dried San Pedro.


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Re: dried san pedro pleaseee [Re: healing]
    #14184153 - 03/25/11 09:20 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

im not looking for "reasearch" im looking for "experience" so chill out

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Re: dried san pedro pleaseee [Re: Ghostwriter]
    #14184190 - 03/25/11 09:28 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

this is kinda almodosage advst
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mamdbdylan said:
so today i got 25 grams of san pedro cactus in the mail,
ive done my searching on it ive read threads before but want some more and better opinions on it..

will 25 grams even be enough to have a good trip on?

i have some syrian rue i was thinking about mixing with it, good idea?

im also debating on waiting and ordering some more san pedro or t bridgesii and doing possibly about 2oz of dried powder and mixing the 2 kinds of cactus and getting a higher dose because ive read that 25 grams isnt a very good experience..

when i get to eating it i plan to powder the cactus and make into a dough and form into little balls and freeze them, after freezing take out of freezer and down them like pills with some water

when i make into a dough what would be best to liquify it?
-orange juice
-squeezed or bottled lemon juice
-squeezed or bottled lime juice

so what do you guys think should i,
-take the 25 grams and see what happens
-take the 25 grams with some syrian rue
-order more cactus and wait and hope that it was the right choice
-order more cactus and take a lot more cactus with some syrian rue also???




Because you barely understand simple extraction you may need to do a little more UTSE. Very simple extraction with ethanol is your best starting point. MAOI's aren't needed IME.


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Re: dried san pedro pleaseee [Re: Ghostwriter]
    #14184198 - 03/25/11 09:29 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Sorry if that seemed harsh to you. I just thought you were asking people how much cactus powder they should take to get a good trip.

If that is in fact what you're looking for, then go to erowid, read up on the possible alkaloid content in your cactus, look at the dosage page and do some calculations to figure out about how much you should take for a good trip.

Nobody here knows how potent your cactus powder is, so all they'd tell you is how much they've taken in the past, which has no bearing on what's going to happen when you take the dose they suggest.

Go do the calculations yourself.


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Re: dried san pedro pleaseee [Re: 2newtz]
    #14184201 - 03/25/11 09:31 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

ive read extractions and making teas out of it and everything but the method i want to do is the dough balls method it sounds like the best way to get it down IMO.

im not getting enough cactus to do an extraction i just want to get it down.

and with the MAOI i just read that doing syrian rue with cactus or shrooms really inhanced the trip so i was wondering if it would be a good idea

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Re: dried san pedro pleaseee [Re: Ghostwriter]
    #14184270 - 03/25/11 09:49 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I forgot to add:

If, when you look at the dosage range you're dealing with, you think the cactus alone isn't going to take you as far as you'd like to go, then use the syrian rue.


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Re: dried san pedro pleaseee [Re: healing]
    #14184334 - 03/25/11 10:04 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

well "Trichocerus peruvianus - 300 mg / 15 to 100 grams dried material (.3% - 2.0%)"

that is quite a big range of dosage to play around with huh

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Re: dried san pedro pleaseee [Re: Ghostwriter]
    #14186758 - 03/26/11 01:10 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Use the rue. My first experience with San Pedro was on one ounce and some rue extract; this was more than enough for a solid trip.


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Re: dried san pedro pleaseee [Re: Remix]
    #14186882 - 03/26/11 01:32 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

25 grams of San Pedro?  Don't worry, you won't feel a thing.


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Re: dried san pedro pleaseee [Re: joemolloy]
    #14187098 - 03/26/11 02:22 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I did :shrug:

For 16 hours.

Then again, though, I was getting stuff that I knew was good.


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Re: dried san pedro pleaseee [Re: Ghostwriter]
    #14187738 - 03/26/11 04:40 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

mamdbdylan said:
well "Trichocerus peruvianus - 300 mg / 15 to 100 grams dried material (.3% - 2.0%)"

that is quite a big range of dosage to play around with huh




It's that way for any cactus. Sorry. I didn't realize that you didn't have enough powder to up your dosage incrementally until you find the right dose for the experience you're looking for.


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Re: dried san pedro pleaseee [Re: healing]
    #14188733 - 03/26/11 07:53 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

its all good you bro,

i think im gunna just order some t. bridgesii because ive heard lots of good reports about it..

ill probably end up trying the san pedro with the rue and then trying the bridgesii alone to get the just mescaline effect

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Re: dried san pedro pleaseee [Re: Ghostwriter]
    #14191431 - 03/27/11 10:29 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Use the rue. My first experience with San Pedro was on one ounce and some rue extract; this was more than enough for a solid trip




how did u do the rue?

i made a rue tea before but want to avoid doing that because it was unbearable to drink...

would grinding to powder and capsuling them up do the trick?

also how do you normally do your cactus?

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Re: dried san pedro pleaseee [Re: Ghostwriter]
    #14192012 - 03/27/11 12:30 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I bought some rue extract online. You could easily make your own by boiling it in some lemon-water and reducing it down to a resin.

And I don't take cactus in any one way. I've done a few different things and change it up depending on the situation:

So far the easiest way for me was just to eat an ounce of the dried chips. They didn't really taste too bad either (as opposed to drinking the tea  :scat: ).

I've also used capsules when all I can get is powder. This way really only works for bridgesii, though, since you don't have to take anywhere near as much. Anything more than an ounce worth of capsules and I feel too bloated to keep it all down (although, one time I took ~30g of bridgesii and, pretty much, forced myself to hold it down for an hour and a half).

Resins/extractions work well, too, but you always run the risk of lowering potency (this is especially annoying if your cactus was never very potent to begin with). That's is the obvious price you pay, however, for reducing the amount of matter necessary to consume.

The tea is probably least recommended. If you're going to spend the time necessary (8-12 hours) to make a cactus-tea you mine as well take some extra time to dry it all out and reduce it even more IMO. It tastes horrible, too. I would rather just eat some dry chips than drink cactus-tea. The plus side, though, is that the tea tends to come on a bit quicker and be a bit more intense.


In conclusion: there are so many different ways to prepare/consume cactus and everybody has their own preferences. If you were to ask me I'd say just dry the chips and eat them... especially if this is your first time trying it... because this is when the overall taste of cactus will seem the least bothersome. Otherwise just look around on different sites for various preps and find the one that seems the most appealing to you and your situation.


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Re: dried san pedro pleaseee [Re: Remix]
    #14192288 - 03/27/11 01:26 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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In conclusion: there are so many different ways to prepare/consume cactus and everybody has their own preferences. If you were to ask me I'd say just dry the chips and eat them... especially if this is your first time trying it... because this is when the overall taste of cactus will seem the least bothersome. Otherwise just look around on different sites for various preps and find the one that seems the most appealing to you and your situation.




yeah for sure all the research ive done i came to that conclusion but i didnt want to jump the gun because i never done it so i wanted to hear from experience and you pretty much summed up what i was thinking, thanks man

would you reccomend the tek where you use a liquid to create a dough with the dry powder and swallow the little balls of cacti?

im debating on doing that with my 25 grams of san pedro for my first time, im also debating on doing it with syrian rue.. but if i do it with syrian rue i think ill just grind it up and capsule it up..

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Re: dried san pedro pleaseee [Re: Ghostwriter]
    #14192408 - 03/27/11 01:49 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I've never done it myself but it seems like a decent idea. Whenever I make resins/extractions I usually just encapsulate them. My guess is that using flour is, essentially, a similar idea in principle.


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Re: dried san pedro pleaseee [Re: Remix]
    #14192525 - 03/27/11 02:06 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

yeah i just figured a liquid would make it more doughy like and easier to form into balls than flour would but maybe flour would help the consistency i guess.

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