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Re: Vegetarians and death anxiety [Re: Nymphaea] * 1
    #14183383 - 03/26/11 04:17 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Killing animals for food is "natural"




"Why" the quotes?


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Re: Vegetarians and death anxiety [Re: Nymphaea]
    #14183437 - 03/26/11 04:25 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I just feel great after eating vegtables, nuts, and fruits all day.  It's an undescribale natural high.

I think that there are probably a lot of unhealthy vegetarians out there because they are eating the wrong types of foods.  If someone goes veggie and just eats junk food (I started out that way) they are going to be ALOT less healthy then before.

I adamantly disagree that we NEED meat for natural function of our bodies.  It wasn't very long ago that humans began eating meat.  Meat certainly does round out your diet nicely if your not someone who cares about your diet.  In American society you can replace everything you can get from meat and end up with a lot less saturated fat.

I'm blessed to live in America becauase in many parts of the world the foods might not be available to me to adequatley replace meat completely.


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Re: Vegetarians and death anxiety [Re: Nymphaea]
    #14183453 - 03/26/11 04:28 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I didn't want to start debating what "natural" is.


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Re: Vegetarians and death anxiety [Re: Nymphaea] * 1
    #14183464 - 03/26/11 04:30 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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I just feel great after eating vegtables, nuts, and fruits all day.




Not sure what your point is. I could feed you some very natural berries and nuts that will make you sick and may kill you.


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Re: Vegetarians and death anxiety [Re: Nymphaea]
    #14183476 - 03/26/11 04:32 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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they are going to be ALOT less healthy then before.





In my muddy, meat-addled brain, I still know the difference between 'than' and 'then'. So much for the clarity argument...


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Re: Vegetarians and death anxiety [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14183561 - 03/26/11 04:47 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Your arguments are extra fallacious tonight! So far I've counted ad-hominem and composition.


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Re: Vegetarians and death anxiety [Re: NetDiver]
    #14183584 - 03/26/11 04:50 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

What is the grand total?


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Re: Vegetarians and death anxiety [Re: OrgoneConclusion] * 3
    #14184237 - 03/26/11 06:41 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Honestly at a wild guess I think people who claim they don't eat meat for moral reasons don't really care and are just bullshitting themselves because of a cultural program. I just doubt it's a function of any animal organism to care about these things. What use would nature have for such high standards?  Could well be a death anxiety thing.


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Re: Vegetarians and death anxiety [Re: Grapefruit] * 1
    #14184316 - 03/26/11 06:59 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

:thumbup:

But then again, most everything is a death anxiety thing so it isn't saying much.


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Re: Vegetarians and death anxiety [Re: Kickle]
    #14184367 - 03/26/11 07:12 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I think Vegetarians chose to be for many different reasons.  Some of them probably don't give a fuck if their eating babies from china they just don't want meat for some other reason like to be on a healthy diet or it doesn't suit their body well, Maybe to loose weight.  Humans are very long, I think they are sorda meant to be vegetarian.  Maybe we are meant to be able to choose and addapt to our environment given our great decision making capabilities, some humans will be like fuck this nasty shit I'm gonna eat fruit.  Humans can live off humans, we can live off animals, or we can live on fruits and vegetables.  Just gotta do what you gota do,  oh but we have the grocery store, just leave them alone.  No need to over analyze a group that doesn't even fit together.


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Re: Vegetarians and death anxiety [Re: Grapefruit]
    #14184442 - 03/26/11 07:26 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Grapefruit said:
Honestly at a wild guess I think people who claim they don't eat meat for moral reasons don't really care and are just bullshitting themselves because of a cultural program. I just doubt it's a function of any animal organism to care about these things. What use would nature have for such high standards?  Could well be a death anxiety thing.






Yeah, I am definitely "bullshitting" myself when images like this upset me.

I am an animal, that has the ability to empathise, at a guess I would say life isn't overly pleasant in a cage like that (to say the very least.) :imslow:

Concerning death anxiety, I also doubt it is an option, IMO it is inescapable.


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Re: Vegetarians and death anxiety [Re: Blondell_Letrange] * 2
    #14184482 - 03/26/11 07:33 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Blondell_Letrange said:
Yeah, I am definitely "bullshitting" myself when images like this upset me.

I am an animal, that has the ability to empathise, at a guess I would say life isn't overly pleasant in a cage like that (to say the very least.) :imslow:




Life isn't pleasant in much of the "natural" world.  From a strictly rational stand point these pigs have everything going for them.  They get food, water, medical care, and forced breeding ensures the survival of the species.

From a certain POV they're actually doing quite well.


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Re: Vegetarians and death anxiety [Re: Cups] * 2
    #14184527 - 03/26/11 07:41 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

:huxleyfacepalm:


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Re: Vegetarians and death anxiety [Re: awakendone] * 1
    #14184553 - 03/26/11 07:45 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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awakendone said:
:huxleyfacepalm:




and there's the death anxiety.

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Re: Vegetarians and death anxiety [Re: Cups]
    #14184584 - 03/26/11 07:51 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

i dont get you?
you said those pigs are doing quite well. i gave an appropriate response.
whats the correlation with death anxiety? :shrug:


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Re: Vegetarians and death anxiety [Re: awakendone]
    #14184686 - 03/26/11 08:14 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Because your "appropriate response" shows an unwillingness to even entertain the idea that those pigs are living a life every bit as complete as yours.


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Re: Vegetarians and death anxiety [Re: Cups] * 2
    #14184771 - 03/26/11 08:35 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

so what you saying is that if i entertained the idea i would have to come to very same conclusion as you.
because i did entertain it, but then i disagreed with you.


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Re: Vegetarians and death anxiety [Re: Nymphaea]
    #14185064 - 03/26/11 10:01 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Nymphaea said:
I'm a vegietarian, but I'll eat meat...


LOL


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Re: Vegetarians and death anxiety [Re: awakendone]
    #14185794 - 03/26/11 05:11 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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because i did entertain it, but then i disagreed with you.




That isn't the type of question you can fully weigh in 8 minutes.  More likely a few seconds as you searched for the facepalm huxley.  :shrug:

I wonder....Can you put into words why your life is somehow more "complete" than a factory raised pig? :strokebeard:


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Re: Vegetarians and death anxiety [Re: Cups]
    #14185862 - 03/26/11 05:48 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

c'mon now! look at that pic. ya know, i thought you were possibly being sarcastic in your first comment, but apparently not. idk, id imagine even pigs would like to have more than 2 inces to more around and shit. :shrug:

but you are right about me entertaining the idea for only a few seconds. that was plenty!

btw heres a vid someone posted in another thread the other day. theres some pigs in it "living it up"


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