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Substitutes for MDMA
    #14177980 - 03/24/11 07:20 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I am wandering if anyone has had any experience with substitutes of mdma, like MDMAI, or MDAT.

Most are uncontrolled and Ive seen one vendor selling these substances.

would be great if they were decent, or coparable to MDMA


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Re: Substitutes for MDMA [Re: Run]
    #14178095 - 03/24/11 07:39 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

If you meant MDAI, I heard that one is pretty crappy compared to mdma. 

I heard some of the 2C's are similar to MDMA.  I might check out some 2C-B or 2C-I sometime.

Theres also Mephedrone


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Re: Substitutes for MDMA [Re: Run]
    #14178147 - 03/24/11 07:48 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

no, I meant MDMAI

ive tried 2c-i, prolly around 15 MG and didnt experience any euphoria just nice cid like visuals and a weird , space-e analogue head trip


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Re: Substitutes for MDMA [Re: Run]
    #14178446 - 03/24/11 08:37 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Oh, well you can google those and you prolly would find a bigger thread describing them than this one.  Don't expect anything great from these MD alternatives.

If there is something good out there, its probably really new or you've heard about it already.


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Re: Substitutes for MDMA [Re: tospace]
    #14178789 - 03/24/11 09:34 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

bk-mdma is close
mdai is weak but preferred by me.  No shaky eyes, no sweats, no social awkwardness.
Just nice seratonin warmth.

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Re: Substitutes for MDMA [Re: Legoulash]
    #14178816 - 03/24/11 09:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

A low dose of 2c-e is similar to a low dose of mushrooms and MDMA. It's nice.


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Re: Substitutes for MDMA [Re: Legoulash]
    #14179365 - 03/24/11 11:19 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Rah said:
bk-mdma is close




thats what I meant to put. not Mephedrone.

Its Methylone, or bk-mdma, but search for Methylone

Mephedrone is more speedy, like coke substitute I think. I hear it can make your heart beat way to fast for some people to want to do it.  I would stay away from it and go with Methylone, or other ones in the 2C group.


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Re: Substitutes for MDMA [Re: tospace]
    #14179410 - 03/24/11 11:31 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

methylone  dosed at 200mg oral seems to be very close other than slight decrease in stimulation. thats my experiences anyway. also butylone is similar  but leans toward the stronger stimulant side for me...low dose 2c-b is closest though for me just a short duration


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Re: Substitutes for MDMA [Re: Shermsticks]
    #14179921 - 03/25/11 01:23 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

40 dry grams of Trichocereus Bridgessi Cactus prepared in tea (simmered in water and lemon juice for a few hours) with a bong rip on the come u= gave me a trip comparable to MDMA. But MUCH better, like 100x better than the purest MDMA imaginable, and with great colorful visuals! Rainbow colored patterns everywhere and such! Highly recommended, lasted a good 10 hours which is awesome! Unless you are one of those people that does not like longer trips and prefers to get to bed at some point :P

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Re: Substitutes for MDMA [Re: Run]
    #14179985 - 03/25/11 01:42 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

GHB can be like MDMA if used cautiously.


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Re: Substitutes for MDMA [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14181434 - 03/25/11 11:00 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

bk-mdma / methylone

closest you'll find legally, i believe.

perhaps 6-apb, but i haven't tried it.

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Re: Substitutes for MDMA [Re: abstrakt]
    #14181444 - 03/25/11 11:02 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Some of them are close (methylone) but NONE match the true magic of pure MDMA. I don't know what it is.

But methylone is probably the closest one you will get.


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Re: Substitutes for MDMA [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14182105 - 03/25/11 01:17 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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DosileFlynn said:
GHB can be like MDMA if used cautiously.



:sleep:  :sleeping:  :sleepingcow:


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Re: Substitutes for MDMA [Re: R2-D2]
    #14182973 - 03/25/11 06:09 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I just wanted to add...

LSA+Weed.  I have done like 7.5 grams to - 18 grams a few times in tea.  I never tripped that hard just everything felt great and I was super happy like on mdma.  It felt like muscles in my face where being used that aren't normally used, ones that make your whole face smile.

So anytime you combine weed with it, the feelings skyrocket and you feel great.  I recommend doing a cold water extraction from 600+ heavenly blue seeds, not eating a few HWBR seeds.  Those seeds never felt the same to me,  and I got bad side effects.


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Re: Substitutes for MDMA [Re: R2-D2]
    #14183020 - 03/25/11 06:16 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

R2-D2 said:
Quote:

DosileFlynn said:
GHB can be like MDMA if used cautiously.



:sleep:  :sleeping:  :sleepingcow:



Or if looking for something online, a bottle of gbl, its good I think, look it up.

he said cautiously because you have to find your sweet spot.  1ml and you might feel nothing, 2ml and you might be asleep, 10 and you might get raped, so you need 1.5ml.  Other people might need 3ml.

I'm talking about gbl because its legal tire cleaner, it converts to ghb in your tummy, so its only a little different.  Some people say its better than GHB some people say its worse, or about the same.


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Re: Substitutes for MDMA [Re: tospace]
    #14183467 - 03/25/11 07:30 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

does methylone make you guys want to go and be social? ( talk to 100 people at once) just trying it my first time tonight and hope thats the effects ( i get that way on mdma)

sorry for sidetracking the thread but i think methylone will be your closest bet and if u can get a gram for like 7 bucks a gram thats around $1.40 for 200mg and thats a great night :laugh:

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Re: Substitutes for MDMA [Re: harrisonbrtn]
    #14184410 - 03/25/11 10:20 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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does methylone make you guys want to go and be social? ( talk to 100 people at once) just trying it my first time tonight and hope thats the effects ( i get that way on mdma)

sorry for sidetracking the thread but i think methylone will be your closest bet and if u can get a gram for like 7 bucks a gram thats around $1.40 for 200mg and thats a great night :laugh:




I would think so.  Never tried it though.  It just sounds like its the type of drug that would do that if its any thing like mdma or even a little bit like coke.

The most social Ive ever felt was after a low dose of shrooms and later took some crap/fake x.
Shrooms make me not even care what people think, I love it.


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Re: Substitutes for MDMA [Re: tospace]
    #14184603 - 03/25/11 10:55 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Yes, i can tell you know your stuff in relation to GHB/GBL. I'm fair sure it's unwise to order GBL off the internet thought without a licence or plausible excuse for it, because it pretty much is ghb.


drug laws make things illegal not only if they are the drug, but also analogs and precursor chems etc etc. I'm sure it would in someway be found illegal to be ordering in substances that convert to illict substances in teh body.



Again re-iterating what tospace said, you have to be extremely careful with your dosage on GHB, its not a drug for wreckless people. You really need to respect it and use it cautiously.


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Re: Substitutes for MDMA [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14184818 - 03/25/11 11:47 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah. I would have to do some research before deciding if I was gonna order that.  I almost did before because it seemed like I wouldn't get in trouble at the time and lots of other people ordered it without trouble.  I would just stick with the smallest size (And thats hundreds of doses) so you can say your cleaning graffiti or something.  If you got like a barrel of it then they might start thinking that you might be making ghb.  But seriously, just spray paint on your car or house and be like I gota clean this off, I'm not drive around with that on there!


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Re: Substitutes for MDMA [Re: tospace]
    #14184834 - 03/25/11 11:51 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

yeah, well usually the best excuse is having a business of some sort.


But i've heard of people who have ordered like a litre of it to their house, no questions asked. This was a few years back though , so things might be different.


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