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More perlite?
    #14181697 - 03/25/11 11:55 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Hey guys,

I've got about 3 inches of perlite in the bottom of my tub (it took two full bags to get that high).



Should I go ahead and get another bag to throw in or is 3 inches fine?


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Re: More perlite? [Re: Cynosure]
    #14181703 - 03/25/11 11:56 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Go buy another bag.


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Re: More perlite? [Re: Dave Bowman]
    #14181713 - 03/25/11 11:58 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah I would say throw in another bag.  3 inches will dry out too quickly.


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Re: More perlite? [Re: MycoUnderground]
    #14181730 - 03/25/11 12:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Many thanks!

Headed out to grab it now.


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Re: More perlite? [Re: Cynosure]
    #14191507 - 03/27/11 10:47 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Alright, so I feel that I need more help here.

My SGFC is built exactly like the mushroom BRF tek videos and these forums suggest.

I added another bag of perlite to the bottom of it, but it has already dried out almost completely!!  I have been misting up to 6 times a day pretty heavily.  At first I was fanning after each mist but I have ceased fanning because it is so dry.  I misted it 3 times within two hours last night before bed and woke up to it being completely dried out again.

Should I cover up some of the holes?  Add more perlite?  Any other recommendations?

I'm going to remove my mushrooms from the chamber and throw the terrarium with the perlite in the shower for 10 minutes to help rehydrate it.  I will do this every time it dries out until I can find a solution!  I'm very worried that my dunk has done no good since the chamber has been so dry.


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Re: More perlite? [Re: Cynosure]
    #14191547 - 03/27/11 10:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Do you have a fan running in the room? that could dry it out


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Re: More perlite? [Re: magnumzero]
    #14191589 - 03/27/11 11:06 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I had one running the first day (it was aimed at my computer on the opposite side of the room).  Ironically, when I came home that night it had completely burnt out.

The perlite that night was completely dry so I removed the mushrooms and misted the perlite very heavily.  However, it is now day 3 (with no fan) and it's still drying out.

I just finished soaking the perlite in the shower.  Once it drains a bit I will put the cakes back in and time how long it takes for it to dry out.

In the meantime, any suggestions would be appreciated!


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Re: More perlite? [Re: Cynosure]
    #14192645 - 03/27/11 02:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

How did you hydrate the perlite?  4 inches of perlite definately shouldn't dry out so quickly.  The recommended way to hydrate is to completely submerge all the perlite for a half hour to an hour then strain it.  Perlite has a lot of surface area and lots of little microscopic holes.  Water is supposed to fill up these little holes, and I suspect your method with the shower is not accomplishing this.


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Re: More perlite? [Re: MycoUnderground]
    #14192697 - 03/27/11 02:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The first time around, I used the method directly from the "Let's Grow Mushrooms" movies.  I used a strainer that held some perlite, drenched it, swirled it around, drenched it some more, etc. until I felt that it was efficiently wet.  Then I dumped it into the SGFC and repeated with another load of perlite.  It took me quite a while.

The second time around, I used the shower.  I just aimed the head at a paticular part of the perlite, left it for 3-4 minutes, came back and moved it to a new section.  After each section was hit, I moved all of the perlite around and did it again.

I will try completely submerging it for the next round when it dries out again.  So far, it's still a little moist after 3 and a half hours.  I've misted twice.


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Re: More perlite? [Re: Cynosure]
    #14193013 - 03/27/11 03:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

When you say dry do you mean just the top?  Or are you actually digging your hand through it?  Also, If I were you, Id just get a cheap analog hygrometer and see if the humidity is OK.  Your goal is to have high humidity, not for the perlite to feel wet when you touch it.  So if the humidity is fine, you've reached the goal, and you won't have to worry about how the perlite feels.


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Re: More perlite? [Re: asdfasdf]
    #14194400 - 03/27/11 08:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I dug my hand through it, it was all dried out.  There was no liquid/condensation on the walls or top (this is how I've been measuring my humidity).  The terrarium was completely dried out (however, not dry enough to bruise my cakes).

I've been misting every 2 hours today, the top of the perlite is fairly dry again, however underneath is still a little moist.  The liquid on the side of the tub is about halved by time I need to mist again.  I'm certain that when I wake up tomorrow morning there will be no signs of liquid on the walls.

I will purchase an analog hygrometer tomorrow to see how the humidity is actually holding up.  I have a digital one, but it doesn't seem to be working at all.


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Re: More perlite? [Re: Cynosure]
    #14194420 - 03/27/11 08:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i have that problem alot with SGFC's ..which is why i stay with mono's as mch as pobbile


IDK if its cause of the humidity here in VA or what but it sucks..


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Re: More perlite? [Re: biologys]
    #14194478 - 03/27/11 08:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Well, it's definitely reassuring to know that I'm not the only one. :thumbup:  I was getting fairly worried as this hasn't seemed to be a problem for many others.

I'm hoping to switch to monotubs by summer, but I was hoping to get this tek somewhat down until I have time to go shopping for a pressure cooker.


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Re: More perlite? [Re: Cynosure]
    #14197584 - 03/28/11 12:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Condensation on the sides is not a measurement of humidity, and a properly functioning SGFC will have no condensation and have 99% humidity.

Dont waste your money on hygrometers, either. The digital ones are useless and the anolog ones are a pain in the ass to use and not even accurate. The design of the SGFC makes it so that there will always be proper humidity without any worry about measuring what the humidity is.

Don't be deterred from SGFC's.  They kick ass.  You can even leave them for days without fanning or misting and still have the right humidity and fresh air exchange. You get a low maintenance, high performance FC for 15 bucks.  You can't beat that.

Read through RR's tek and his posts regarding the SGFC again and you might pick up on something you missed before.


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