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My first grow log, ever(PICS..Update)
#14178087 - 03/24/11 07:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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i used the elementary coir tek, and used 4 quarts of spawn in my mono tub. my tub has about 10 small holes in each side including the top (not bottom though).
i didn't put polyfill in each individual hole just yet, at least not until i see some kind of pinning or colonization.. there is also alot of moisture, which is positive. the tub has been covered with 2 black plastic garbage bag. i just recently put a thick blanket over it as well. my roomate is a dumbass and has been putting the temperature at 69-72 degrees. and i always turn it back to 74 degrees..
it will be seven days tomorrow, and i only see minor growth. as in some white blotch spots throughout the tub. not many, maybe 4-5 at most.. should i cover the holes with polyfill/micropore tape?
What could possibly be wrong?
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Re: 7 days and no pinning...? [Re: i95fl]
#14178304 - 03/24/11 08:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Pics. But impatience is probably your only problem...
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Re: 7 days and no pinning...? [Re: Microppose]
#14178351 - 03/24/11 08:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Azurascender said: Pics. But impatience is probably your only problem...
tomorrow i will take pics, and post them. i'm a bit reluctant to expose the tub to light ( )
i think you may be quite possibly correct, but i was told i should see signs of pinning by day 4 at least! and full colonization by day 10.. that's why i'm getting a bit impatient, and query about the environmental surroundings per se.
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Re: 7 days and no pinning...? [Re: i95fl]
#14182425 - 03/25/11 02:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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cob-web like pinning 7 days today.
 everything has been covered in 2 black plastic garbage bags, just recently put a blanket and cover over it as well.
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Re: 7 days and no pinning...? [Re: i95fl]
#14182495 - 03/25/11 02:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's not pinning, it's just mycelium.
My projects usually take 2 weeks or longer to pin. I usually use 4 quarts of bird seed per tub, with coir added, of course. Is that manure? Either way let it colonize, then wait a week, then fruit it.
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Re: 7 days and no pinning...? [Re: i95fl]
#14182524 - 03/25/11 02:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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i95fl said:
everything has been covered in 2 black plastic garbage bags, just recently put a blanket and cover over it as well.
Covered? as in you put it INTO the trashbags or you just had them draped over it?
You don't need to cover monotubs w/ anything. Ambient light is excellent for colonization. Also, putting monos in trashbags for colonization is old/outdated information.
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Re: 7 days and no pinning...? [Re: m00nshine]
#14182529 - 03/25/11 02:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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m00nshine said: That's not pinning, it's just mycelium.
My projects usually take 2 weeks or longer to pin. I usually use 4 quarts of bird seed per tub, with coir added, of course. Is that manure? Either way let it colonize, then wait a week, then fruit it. 
verm & coir. http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=2&Number=11916595&fpart=&PHPSESSID= used 4 quarts of colonized jars .
ahh i was under the impression that in 10 days at optimal temperatures, it would be colonized.
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Re: 7 days and no pinning...? [Re: i95fl]
#14182542 - 03/25/11 02:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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It varies. Especially with MS. I have a lot of experience with MS.
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i95fl said:
everything has been covered in 2 black plastic garbage bags, just recently put a blanket and cover over it as well.
Covered? as in you put it INTO the trashbags or you just had them draped over it?
You don't need to cover monotubs w/ anything. Ambient light is excellent for colonization. Also, putting monos in trashbags for colonization is old/outdated information.
those black plastic bags above the monotub have been 'draped' over it for 7 days now, with no polyfill in the holes and no FAE or light.

so expose the monotub to the open air/room lighting w/o polyfill? yes?
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Re: 7 days and no pinning...? [Re: i95fl]
#14182589 - 03/25/11 02:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't cover mine.

I leave it just like that, on a shelf, usually, until it's ready.
Then I mist and fan regularly, keeping an eye on the moisture content of the sub. Works great.
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Re: 7 days and no pinning...? [Re: m00nshine]
#14182603 - 03/25/11 02:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Take the bags off and let her chill man. It's got a long ways to go.
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Re: 7 days and no pinning...? [Re: m00nshine]
#14182609 - 03/25/11 02:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I tape my holes shut w/ duct tape when colonizing...some use poly during colonization...others don't, it's up to you...lol
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Re: 7 days and no pinning...? [Re: m00nshine]
#14182643 - 03/25/11 02:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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oh wow, this is all a shock to me.
i guess my information is outdated .
i'll put micropore tape over her just for safety's sake. since i can only tend to it a few times a day.
thanks guys. much appreciated!
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Re: 7 days and no pinning...? [Re: i95fl]
#14182653 - 03/25/11 02:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Umm..it's still colonizing brotha...there's no "tending" to it...set & forget for another 4 days...then check again but don't open the lid, that'll introduce Fresh Air & initiate pinning....
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thanks i'm all new to this. i was taught by person up until the monotub step, so i'm still learning.
i'll update in a few days
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Re: 7 days and no pinning...? [Re: i95fl]
#14182992 - 03/25/11 06:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Success to fruiting boils down to three simple things the RH of the tub, temps, and air flow.
During colonization I place my entire tub in a large black plastic trash bag with some holes cut in the bag.
Once it's colonized it's key that the room their in has a large fan spinning 24/7. It's key you don't have this fan pointed at the tubs (it will bruise your sub). Just having air move around the room is enough.
To keep the RH high, I mist my my tubs 1-3 times a day (you need to exercise judgment). You want the sub to look fresh (like a veggy or fruit in a commercial) and covered in tiny water droplets. You don't want water to pool anywhere. Every time I mist my tub I gently fan the substrate them before and after the misting by hand too. The act of evaporating water from the fanning really speeds up pinning.
Lastly to further control the RH I use wax paper as a "casing" (its not really a casing). Wax paper forces a layer of dampness on top of the substrate.
Bottom line, all following this flow has caused all my tubs to fruit with in 2 weeks of being in fruiting conditions.
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Re: 7 days and no pinning...? [Re: ronjohn7779]
#14210457 - 03/30/11 04:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Perfect, couldn't of put the process any better. Thank you for this ronjohn
for the 12 on 12 off process, what type of light would you all recommend? i have a basic fluorescent lamp.
so an update on my colonization...



 small pins are starting to appear on the sides of the tubs(picture 3), and one tiny minuscule shroom has popped up from the mycelium.
didn't spread the spawn as good i would like, i suppose. it has been a bit blotchy. should i put it into fruiting mode?
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Re: 7 days and no pinning...? [Re: i95fl]
#14211023 - 03/30/11 06:06 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've given my tubs 3 days after I've seen pins that size. It's up to you.
It'll be fine if you leave it for another 24-72 or you can open that bitch up & let the little guys up.
It's all you brotha
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Re: 7 days and no pinning...? [Re: i95fl]
#14211091 - 03/30/11 06:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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i95fl said: Perfect, couldn't of put the process any better. Thank you for this ronjohn
for the 12 on 12 off process, what type of light would you all recommend? i have a basic fluorescent lamp.
so an update on my colonization...



 small pins are starting to appear on the sides of the tubs(picture 3), and one tiny minuscule shroom has popped up from the mycelium.
didn't spread the spawn as good i would like, i suppose. it has been a bit blotchy. should i put it into fruiting mode?
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nice. i'm going to give it another 4-6 hours, the blotchy spots had turned into all mycelium once i relocated my tub, humidity issue i would assume.
more pins are starting to appear on top also. just open her up, and expose to 6500k lamp or ambient lighting (for 12 on) ? the tub is in a non-drafty room as well.
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Re: 7 days and no pinning...? [Re: i95fl]
#14215342 - 03/31/11 03:02 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Give to the mushrooms what they are wanting! lol. birth them bad boys
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Re: 7 days and no pinning...? [Re: skyjohnny]
#14223873 - 04/01/11 10:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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so the pins are slowly but surely coming through. i have just added polyfill for added RH
this is my current setup. please criticize and give advice/suggestions! 




small/medium pins on the side of tub(picture 3), they are kinda bugging me out..is this normal? small fan is running on low in the background, and the humidity has been at 70-79% approximately(fuck a digital hygrometer i am changing tmrw)
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Re: 7 days and no pinning...? [Re: i95fl]
#14223891 - 04/01/11 10:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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yes the side pins are normal, thas why we use plastic liners in the bottom, also thos eholes are small you dont need polyfil
other then that your set up looks decent...besides your sub being really really uneven lol
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Re: 7 days and no pinning...? [Re: biologys]
#14223916 - 04/01/11 11:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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biologys said: yes the side pins are normal, thas why we use plastic liners in the bottom, also thos eholes are small you dont need polyfil
other then that your set up looks decent...besides your sub being really really uneven lol
alright good deal. wouldn't the polyfil give additional help to my humidity levels? i will take out a few here and there, i just added it not but 30minutes ago haha. i guess i'll reassemble. 
lol! i knew someone would catch me on that. i'm not even sure how it ended up so top sided , could be from moving it from place to place every so often!
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Re: 7 days and no pinning...? [Re: i95fl]
#14230781 - 04/03/11 11:34 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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yeah so this is what has been forming in the past few days.
very, very concerned. i have premature pins, then fruits.  


normal???? lots of pins/fruits on the sides, i've been misting and FAE the shit out of them 3 times a day. then 12 hour 6500k light cycle. any indications that something is going wrong?
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Re: 7 days and no pinning...? [Re: i95fl]
#14231134 - 04/03/11 01:18 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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 is that extra mycelium around those shrooms on the side? it looks thick and gooey.
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