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Re: Why are psychedelics not a bigger deal? [Re: android313]
#14178797 - 03/24/11 09:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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android313 said: Nothing explicitly says, 'believe this, believe that' as religion does.
This is bullshit, lots of people form delusional beliefs as a result of using psychedelics.
Such as?
Such as any delusional belief that resulted from the ingestion of a psychedelic--do you really need an example? Go to the mystery forum, you'll find plenty.
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android313 said: Or are you referring to mental disorders?
Not only, but psychedelics can exacerbate preexisting latent psychological conditions, such as schizophrenia (which includes delusional beliefs).
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android313 said: Ahhh! After it's all said and done I mean* Nothing explicitly says, 'believe this, believe that' as religion does.
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android313 said: Nothing explicitly says, 'believe this, believe that' as religion does.
This is bullshit, lots of people form delusional beliefs as a result of using psychedelics.
Such as?
Or are you referring to mental disorders?
No. It's what I said in my first post. Delusional in the sense that they think drugs are the answer, that all they have to do is keep on taking them and eventually they're gonna be smarter, and wiser, and more enlightened the even the tripper who realized that they had one answer that led to a thousand more questions.
Enlightenment is a delusion.
My bad. I'll go ahead and agree with you then. Moderation is key with any drug.
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Poid said: Not only, but psychedelics can exacerbate preexisting latent psychological conditions, such as schizophrenia (which includes delusional beliefs).
LOL yeah. I definitely have schizophrenia while tripping. I just go ahead and ignore it as it's usually just the mind playing tricks. Act normal, act normal, act normal haha.
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Re: Why are psychedelics not a bigger deal? [Re: The Whale]
#14178808 - 03/24/11 09:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think perhaps we are all trying to escape from the fact that we are puzzled as hell by the experience and instead of embracing the mystery, we tend towards rationalism and explanations.
Somethings don't transpose very well, which sounds like braille.
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Re: Why are psychedelics not a bigger deal? [Re: The Whale]
#14178813 - 03/24/11 09:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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The Whale said: I think perhaps we are all trying to escape from the fact that we are puzzled as hell by the experience and instead of embracing the mystery, we tend towards rationalism and explanations.
Exactly, death anxiety.
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Re: Why are psychedelics not a bigger deal? [Re: Poid]
#14178827 - 03/24/11 09:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks for telling me what QFT means... I am enlightened! lol
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Re: Why are psychedelics not a bigger deal? [Re: The Inner Eye]
#14178830 - 03/24/11 09:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: Why are psychedelics not a bigger deal? [Re: Poid]
#14178831 - 03/24/11 09:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's not entropic, it's proactive.
It's Life-anxiety, not death anxiety.
There is also a good kind of stress, eustress.
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Re: Why are psychedelics not a bigger deal? [Re: The Whale]
#14178941 - 03/24/11 10:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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i know QFT as "quit fucking talking"
but also "quite fucking true"
so it depends on intent
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Re: Why are psychedelics not a bigger deal? [Re: Salomon]
#14178952 - 03/24/11 10:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quoted For Truth is my understanding.
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Re: Why are psychedelics not a bigger deal? [Re: The Whale]
#14178989 - 03/24/11 10:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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The Whale said: It's Life-anxiety, not death anxiety.
If you read Denial of Death, you would understand that "life anxiety" is a manifestation of death anxiety. 
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The Whale said: Quoted For Truth is my understanding.

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Re: Why are psychedelics not a bigger deal? [Re: Poid]
#14179219 - 03/24/11 10:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Poid you're not funny! Also your ideas are very ignorant!
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Re: Why are psychedelics not a bigger deal? [Re: The Inner Eye]
#14179223 - 03/24/11 10:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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lol j/k ill QFT!
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SamuelLJackson said: first of all, because its illegal
second of all, because its hard to make huge profits off them so nobody really sells them in bulk
third of all, because people are scared of themselves.
yup most people wont do things that are illegal...i call those people propagandized pussy holes.
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The Inner Eye said: lol j/k ill QFT! 
That's the spirit! 
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SamuelLJackson said: first of all, because its illegal
second of all, because its hard to make huge profits off them so nobody really sells them in bulk
third of all, because people are scared of themselves.
yup most people wont do things that are illegal...i call those people propagandized pussy holes.
Isn't that kind of redundant? A pussy is already a type of hole, this is like saying "ear canal hole".
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Re: Why are psychedelics not a bigger deal? [Re: Poid]
#14179296 - 03/24/11 11:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Who are you, the fuckin redundancy police?
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Aight, I know i said i would QFT but imma schpeel for a sec.
O.K. on a serious note.... If you look at history, psychedelics have always been for a special breed of person... not for the feint of heart. Psychs have always been controlled by shamanic type figures.
It was these shamans that basically are the key holders for these ethnogenic compounds... It takes special knowledge on where to find cultivate and create these compunds, as still is the case today. It also takes even more knowledge to digest these compounds in a setting that is fit for an introspective ride.
So basically it takes a determined and knowledgeable person to partake in the creation and ingestion of psychedelics(if you want to do it right). Most people just want to get fucked up and bullshit with friends and party, which seems to work for most people. Also in our present sociological era(in the west), these compounds have been made taboo by the status quo, and there is a certain amount of stigma involved with the par taking in the use of psychs.
This is why the lid stays firmly closed. Just my two cents. 
Edit: QFT'ing
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i'll have to contribute to this conversation when i'm not so unbelievably
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Re: Why are psychedelics not a bigger deal? [Re: The Inner Eye]
#14181350 - 03/25/11 10:41 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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The Inner Eye said: Aight, I know i said i would QFT but imma schpeel for a sec.
O.K. on a serious note.... If you look at history, psychedelics have always been for a special breed of person... not for the feint of heart. Psychs have always been controlled by shamanic type figures.
It was these shamans that basically are the key holders for these ethnogenic compounds... It takes special knowledge on where to find cultivate and create these compunds, as still is the case today. It also takes even more knowledge to digest these compounds in a setting that is fit for an introspective ride.
So basically it takes a determined and knowledgeable person to partake in the creation and ingestion of psychedelics(if you want to do it right). Most people just want to get fucked up and bullshit with friends and party, which seems to work for most people. Also in our present sociological era(in the west), these compounds have been made taboo by the status quo, and there is a certain amount of stigma involved with the par taking in the use of psychs.
This is why the lid stays firmly closed. Just my two cents. 
Edit: QFT'ing 
Urban Shamans, FTW!
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Re: Why are psychedelics not a bigger deal? [Re: Poid]
#14181371 - 03/25/11 10:47 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Where the fuck did THAT come from, LOL...Leave Mrs. Donkle alone!
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