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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Offlineabstrakt
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Re: pursuing the dream [Re: curious mouse]
    #14177056 - 03/24/11 04:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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curious mouse said:
is there ever a point when one should give up on their dreams because they seem too fanciful or not practical enough to make a living?





This depends on what you mean by "make a living." Are the dreams fanciful, or just scary? Because sometimes following a dream is going to take overcoming fear. But can you be happy? Can you survive? Is it what you want?... Hope it's not one of those, "Damn, I should've at least fucking tried..." one man....


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Re: pursuing the dream [Re: abstrakt]
    #14177093 - 03/24/11 04:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I think dreams are very bad. I think dreams cause misery because they are a carrot that you can never truly achieve.

If you begin changing your attitude towards life you will actually stop dreaming and start living.

I used to dream all the time (when I was unhappy). Now that I am happy I don't have any dreams, I simply live in the present, and for now the present is bloody great!


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Re: pursuing the dream [Re: durantz]
    #14177493 - 03/24/11 05:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

True. But perhaps your dream is to make a drastic change to your present.

I suggest at least having a fall-back? Decisions are to be made, even when living in the now :smile:.


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Re: pursuing the dream [Re: Freedom]
    #14177555 - 03/24/11 06:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Freedom said:
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GrizzlyBear said:


You have to keep reminding yourself that you can always reach that dream, it may not be the same specific one you've been striving for all your life - but you will get somewhere near it and be very happy when you do.







Personally I keep finding more of the same. Here are some of the things I've done:

Travel around Asia leisurely for a year.
Pursue a PhD in Neuroscience.
Work in a factory.
Go to highschool.
Produce and sell art.

Most people would look at these things and think they are all very different. From an external point of view, sure you can find many differences. But experiential I keep finding the same pleasures and difficulties.

For example all of the above has its sources of excitement and sources of dull monotony. I find that maintaining interest and excitement and dealing with monotony and boredom has much to do with my approach and little to do with whatever I am pursuing.

A trap that people get caught up in is imagining some future in which they will be happy. They make a list of things they need to achieve to be happy and then go about pursuing those things. The problem is our imagination does not meet reality.

For example you might work for other people and get sick of them telling you what to do, so you start your own business only to find that the customer tells you what to do with their purchases and complaints and the economy tells you what to do and the governemnt tells you what to do and then you find you've invested your life and time and energy into an illusion of freedom.



In other words when you make that documentary and find you aren't any happier than before you made that documentary, take a look at yourself and maybe you'll find it has more to do with the internal world than the external world.




Cool post, and so true. I've been able to find more "freedom" away from people and society. :cool:


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