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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: Poid]
    #14176728 - 03/24/11 03:54 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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It doesn't matter how a genre started, or who started - none of that is a consideration.


Then I guess you don't fully appreciate it. :shrug:


Another reason why it's sad/hilarious.



Maybe I don't fully appreciate but who cares like I said earlier - 'regardless - its just someone telling a story... should you stop reading a lord of the rings book because you don't know what its like to be a hobbit living in fear of marauding orcs and evil rings and shit? '

I don't really listen to rap (besides del tha funkee homosapien..) so whatever.


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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: Hakim0777]
    #14176742 - 03/24/11 03:57 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Whaa?.. its a genre of music - would it be stealing if a black dude made a symphony?


Rap music started as a way for poor people to express their disdain for their position in life, it's not simply a style of music, it's also a style of poetry. If a black guy became a beatnik, then yes, he would be stealing from another culture.

Using musical instruments is different than spoken poetry--music is just successive tones, while poetry is, for lack of a better, less gh3y phrase, "speaking from the heart"




except the fact that beatniks were emulating blacks lol.

You sir, have no idea what your talking about.


I didn't know that, I thought beatniks were those odd poets from the 50's-60's.

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Kerouac introduced the phrase "Beat Generation" in 1948, generalizing from his social circle to characterize the underground, anti-conformist youth gathering in New York at that time. The name came up in conversation with the novelist John Clellon Holmes who published an early Beat Generation novel, Go (1952), along with a manifesto in The New York Times Magazine: "This Is the Beat Generation"[1] In 1954, Nolan Miller published his third novel, Why I Am So Beat (Putnam), detailing the weekend parties of four students.
The adjective "beat" was introduced to the group by Herbert Huncke, though Kerouac expanded the meaning of the term. "Beat" came from underworld slang—the world of hustlers, drug addicts and petty thieves, where Ginsberg and Kerouac sought inspiration. "Beat" was slang for "beaten down" or down-trodden, but to Kerouac, it also had a spiritual connotation as in "beatitude". Other adjectives discussed by Holmes and Kerouac were "found" and "furtive." Kerouac felt he had identified (and was the embodiment of) a new trend analogous to the influential Lost Generation.[2][3]
In "Aftermath: The Philosophy of the Beat Generation" Kerouac criticized what he saw as a distortion of his visionary, spiritual ideas:
The Beat Generation, that was a vision that we had, John Clellon Holmes and I, and Allen Ginsberg in an even wilder way, in the late Forties, of a generation of crazy, illuminated hipsters suddenly rising and roaming America, serious, bumming and hitchhiking everywhere, ragged, beatific, beautiful in an ugly graceful new way—a vision gleaned from the way we had heard the word "beat" spoken on street corners on Times Square and in the Village, in other cities in the downtown city night of postwar America—beat, meaning down and out but full of intense conviction. We'd even heard old 1910 Daddy Hipsters of the streets speak the word that way, with a melancholy sneer. It never meant juvenile delinquents, it meant characters of a special spirituality who didn't gang up but were solitary Bartlebies staring out the dead wall window of our civilization...[4][5]
Kerouac explained what he meant by "beat" at a Brandeis Forum, "Is There A Beat Generation?", on November 8, 1958, at New York's Hunter College Playhouse. Panelists for the seminar were Kerouac, James A. Wechsler, Princeton anthropologist Ashley Montagu, and author Kingsley Amis. Wechsler, Montague and Amis all wore suits, while Kerouac was clad in black jeans, ankle boots and a checkered shirt. Reading from a prepared text, Kerouac reflected on his beat beginnings:
It is because I am Beat, that is, I believe in beatitude and that God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten son to it... Who knows, but that the universe is not one vast sea of compassion actually, the veritable holy honey, beneath all this show of personality and cruelty?[6]
Kerouac's address was later published as "The Origins of the Beat Generation" (Playboy, June 1959). In that article Kerouac noted how his original beatific philosophy had been ignored amid maneuvers by several pundits, among them Herb Caen, the San Francisco newspaperman, to alter Kerouac's concept with jokes and jargon:
I went one afternoon to the church of my childhood and had a vision of what I must have really meant with "Beat"... the vision of the word Beat as being to mean beatific... People began to call themselves beatniks, beats, jazzniks, bopniks, bugniks and finally I was called the "avatar" of all this.
In light of what he considered beat to mean and what beatnik had come mean, he once observed to a reporter, "I'm not a beatnik, I'm a Catholic", showing the reporter a painting of Pope Paul VI and saying, "You know who painted that? Me."




I don't see the word "black" mentioned once here. :shrug:


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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: twighead] * 1
    #14176745 - 03/24/11 03:57 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

And yeah, one can express themselves much more by playing an instrument than with words. It's a universal language.
Words are just, flawed and misinterpreted most of the time.


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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: Grapefruit]
    #14176756 - 03/24/11 04:00 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Well I do actually know what you mean. You're talking about those people who don't listen to anything other than ghetto music and aren't from the ghetto and realte to it. Still it doesn't mean a white guy can't enjoy music that comes from that cultural background. It's even plausible that someone could just prefer the music without worshipping that way of life.


What is ridiculous is when rich White people try to emulate ghetto culture, and don't even get it right at all--these same people are often-times mean to non-Whites, and that is just ridiculous on ten-thousand more levels. It's a mockery, a caricature of an entire way of life that actually means something to a group of people.

That's why I'm surprised of being accused of racism, it so isn't that at all; it's odd to me that people who listen to rap don't appreciate the perspective of someone who came from a similar background as most legitimate rappers.



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Anyway you can't get more middle class than this in rap. Not a big fan but LOL!



"Wish I'd pretended my parents were dead to me but I love my dad that motherfucker read to me!"


Yeah, I'm not gonna listen to that. :lol::tongue:


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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: twighead]
    #14176780 - 03/24/11 04:05 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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It doesn't matter how a genre started, or who started - none of that is a consideration.


Then I guess you don't fully appreciate it. :shrug:


Another reason why it's sad/hilarious.



Maybe I don't fully appreciate but who cares like I said earlier - 'regardless - its just someone telling a story... should you stop reading a lord of the rings book because you don't know what its like to be a hobbit living in fear of marauding orcs and evil rings and shit? '


They're telling a story you can't relate to, though, because you'll never be in those shoes--nothing like LOTR, which everyone can relate to because everybody fantasizes (it's a fantasy book).


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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: Poid] * 1
    #14176895 - 03/24/11 04:23 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Hip-Hop has a bad rep and has been destroyed because of what mainstream rap has been put out.  Soulja Boy, Wayne, Drake, 50 Cent and many others are garbage and have nothing to contribute other than a few catchy lines and a lot of bad rhymes.  Hip-Hop in the past has been amazing, even since Motown, with Stevie Wonder (Heaven Help Us All, FTW) then Gil Scott Herron-peaceful man with a powerful message that he speaks, doesn't rap.  Run DMC and LL came along and changed hip-hop again to a faster pace music-taken from you guessed it, rock.  Many others came along, but when Public Enemy and NWA hit, things really changed.  Artists calling for people to rebel, "Fuck the Police" "Straight Outta Compton" and lots of others where you had young black men that made it out of the hood and didn't give a shit.  Hip Hop continued to evolve, but it really hit when Pac and Biggie hit the scene and re-revolutionized hip hop...well, for a few years.  When the whole Pac and Biggie thing happened, hip hop took an even worse rep because the biggest stars were murdered over, well, money and music...or so "they" say.  When that happened a big part of hip hop died, and Jay-Z and Diddy became the new Kings, and well how can hip hop not suck when Diddy has a say, have you listened to music and the people he prodcues?  Otown?  Yeah...now theres no message in hip-hop (well, mainstream hip-hop) whereas before, there was.  It's sad.


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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: MCdemocracy]
    #14176914 - 03/24/11 04:26 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Everything you said is true--it's good to know that there are actually some semi-sane people on this forum. :mushroom2:


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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: Poid]
    #14176940 - 03/24/11 04:30 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Everything you said is true--it's good to know that there are actually some semi-sane people on this forum. :mushroom2:



i hope you dont think youre one of them.


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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: Poid]
    #14176947 - 03/24/11 04:31 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Everything you said is true--it's good to know that there are actually some semi-sane people on this forum. :mushroom2:



I hate how people wanna total write off hip-hop because they don't like what's put in front of them.  Listen to other things, do some research.  If I put the radio on a pop station and I didn't like Britney Spears or Katy Perry, would I complete write off Pop?  If I put on a rock station and heard Nickelback and All-American Rejects, do I completely write off Rock?


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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: MCdemocracy]
    #14176998 - 03/24/11 04:39 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Everything you said is true--it's good to know that there are actually some semi-sane people on this forum. :mushroom2:



i hope you dont think youre one of them.


I'm not illogical, and I don't ever seriously antagonize people here like most seem to do--plus, I seem to be more aware of my motivations than most others here IMO. Obviously, to many here, I don't seem relatively sane because I come from a very unique background in relation to most; sanity is relative, remember? :wink:

So yeah, IMO, I am at least semi-sane, and so is MCdemocracy--as for all the people who were hating on me in this thread, I'm not so sure...:crazy3:

I have no interest in what others consider to be "sane", though, it is utterly irrelevant to me.



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Everything you said is true--it's good to know that there are actually some semi-sane people on this forum. :mushroom2:



I hate how people wanna total write off hip-hop because they don't like what's put in front of them.  Listen to other things, do some research.  If I put the radio on a pop station and I didn't like Britney Spears or Katy Perry, would I complete write off Pop?  If I put on a rock station and heard Nickelback and All-American Rejects, do I completely write off Rock?


Most new music sucks ass; I came to this conclusion years ago. :shrug:


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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: Poid] * 3
    #14177008 - 03/24/11 04:40 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

people "hate" on you because you talk out of your ass and come across as an ignorant douchebag.


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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: Olympus Mons]
    #14177027 - 03/24/11 04:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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people "hate" on you because you talk out of your ass and come across as an ignorant douchebag.



I'm new here, but I'm going to take that as a tone of sarcasm you are sending to Poid.  If that's your mentality then why are you on this forum?  It's about expressing opinions and topics and not geared toward attacking other people in any way.  So by calling him "ignorant" and a "douchebag" your just being a hypocrite, which is just as bad as being ignorant.


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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: Olympus Mons]
    #14177041 - 03/24/11 04:46 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I talk out of personal experience--one time I apparently talked out of my ass by demonstrating that I didn't know that beatniks emulated blacks. This, however, was not shown to be true from my research--so apparently whoever claimed this is talking out of their ass.


I don't understand why I would come off as ignorant, though--I know a lot of things that many people here don't, and I didn't even really go to college that much.

Hating on people for being ignorant is one of the lowest of lows, BTW; how emotionally fucked up do you have to be to be angered by somebody who doesn't know something? :what:


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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: MCdemocracy]
    #14177050 - 03/24/11 04:47 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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people "hate" on you because you talk out of your ass and come across as an ignorant douchebag.



I'm new here, but I'm going to take that as a tone of sarcasm you are sending to Poid.  If that's your mentality then why are you on this forum?  It's about expressing opinions and topics and not geared toward attacking other people in any way.  So by calling him "ignorant" and a "douchebag" your just being a hypocrite, which is just as bad as being ignorant.


Many people here are immature, emotionally stunted trolls, you'll get used to it. :thumbup:


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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: MCdemocracy]
    #14177086 - 03/24/11 04:51 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Poid, you're statements are incredibly ridiculous, I don't even know what to say, or where to start.

I guess you must be laughing at me, seeing as I'm from a Swiss/Lebanese heritage.

Not only do I love Hip Hop, but I LIVE that shit. Hip Hop is more than being raised in the ghetto. It's having a certain groove (flowing over a beat isn't easy you know...YOU would fail miserably), having complex rhyme schemes, hitting with heavy punchlines (indicating your level of creativity and displaying a though pattern that is different from of most people); basically, Hip Hop to me is a medium where I can showcase my skills, while remaining in a humorous and friendly mood with my friends.

When I'm chilling with my guitar playing friends it is definitely cool to listen to, but there isn't any humour, laughter, and what not. Mostly straight faces.

For me, that is the difference between Hip Hop and the rest of music.

I like to write my own rhymes. Can you please tell me what exactly is wrong with that? I'm better than ANY black dude I know here in Ottawa. Most 'rappers' around here are trailing along the mainstream's idea of Hip Hop, NOT the underground. I listen to Hip Hop from the 80's, 90's, even some 00's. I know my history.

Even walking down the streets, chilling in the bus, heck, laying in bed, I'm always reciting my favourite songs or my own lyrics. I constantly have a beat going in my head (which get's really frustrating at times), THAT's how much I love Hip Hop. How's a preppy diva like you gone' come along and tell me that I'm a sad and laughable human being?

I see it the exact opposite way. I'm paying tribute to the guys living the rough life. I never wanted to be associated with the fancy and rich, EVER! I've always had, and have, sympathy for my brothers and sisters who when they walk around their neighborhood, they have to worry about guns and all that. That's such a stressful way to live. With my rhymes I try to show the less fortunate that I DO care about them, and that not every white man is a racist.

You, sir, need to get rid of these silly ideologies of yours. You made a fool out of yourself here.

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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: AaronEruditus]
    #14177144 - 03/24/11 04:59 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Poid, you're statements are incredibly ridiculous, I don't even know what to say, or where to start.


By the same token, I can just say, from my perspective, your statements are incredibly ridiculous--seriously, if you want to share your perspective with me, what makes you think I'm going to even want to listen to it if you're don't seem willing to understand mine? Do you think I'm just saying this shit for no reason? My perspective has been formed by my experiences, I don't mean to express them for the sole purpose of offending people.

How are you going to just toss my experiences away, if I had a similar background to all your favorite rap-stars? Many of them very likely have similar perspectives as mine.



flowing over a beat isn't easy you know...YOU would fail miserably

How would you know this? You don't even know me...:lol::monkeydance:


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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: learningtofly]
    #14177223 - 03/24/11 05:12 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Looked at in this context, gangsta rap is just a more in-your-face version of US values.




No, it's a more honest version of human values. Virtually every society on Earth since the agricultural revolution has been patriarchal, men have always controlled civilizations in every way that counts. Humans are materialistic by nature, currency has existed in almost every civilization ever to have existed, and in every one there where rich and poor but always greedy. Sexist? Well that goes hand in hand with patriarchal societies but just for the sake of argument consider that women only got suffrage in the eyes of the federal government in 1920.

That's how people are, rap just embraces it. That being said I hate gansta rap.


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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: Poid]
    #14177226 - 03/24/11 05:12 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

That's the only thing you came up with? Every other point I made isn't worth responding to?

I explained to you WHY I think your statements are ridiculous. You on the other hand provided no feedback what so ever.

What exactly were your 'experiences' that formed the opinion that white people who listen to Hip Hop (not even white rappers; I can only imagine the feelings you have towards them) are sad and laughable? I want to know what kind of experience forms that kind of an opinion.

I'm sorry, you just seem pissed off at the fact that there is white people who have some soul and groove in their blood, and DON'T need to be head-banging all day to feel accomplished.

BTW, my all-time favourite MC was never a gangster or even close to being one. Yet, NOBODY, IMO, comes even close to the creativity and lyrical ability of this man. It's not their background that I admire, it's their creativity and thought process behind their poetry. I RESPECT the live they are forced to live, but I don't ADMIRE it.

Please, if you're going to respond back, try and address more than one sentence  :lame:


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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: AaronEruditus]
    #14177245 - 03/24/11 05:16 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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That's the only thing you came up with? Every other point I made isn't worth responding to?


No, because the first thing you did was insult my perspective--if you view my perspective so negatively, why the hell do you want to hear more of it? Just to insult it some more? :thumbdown:


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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: AaronEruditus]
    #14177253 - 03/24/11 05:17 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I don't know it, but the way you seem to think of Hip hop gives me an idea or two. Come again.


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