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curious mouse
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pursuing the dream
#14168346 - 03/23/11 03:40 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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is there ever a point when one should give up on their dreams because they seem too fanciful or not practical enough to make a living?
Edited by curious mouse (03/23/11 03:44 AM)
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durantz
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I think you answered that question in the second half of your question...
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Re: pursuing the dream [Re: durantz]
#14168357 - 03/23/11 03:44 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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so it's better to succumb to a life you don't want to live?
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better to be a realist
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Re: pursuing the dream [Re: durantz]
#14168433 - 03/23/11 05:01 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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just enjoy whatever is until the end of the tunnel and try to make things as good as possible if you have a dream of becoming a rock star try to see where that comes from and see whether that would really make things better (I still have that dream somewhere, but I try not to feed it with attention) disregard hollow dreams maybe disregard all that dreaming, just see where it comes from and enjoy whatever comes your way, you don't REALLY have control anyway you know let it be and enjoy
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Re: pursuing the dream [Re: Ferdinando]
#14168632 - 03/23/11 07:31 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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You have two choices;
1. You change yourself 2. You change your environment
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Re: pursuing the dream [Re: durantz]
#14168654 - 03/23/11 07:49 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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the ideal for most people would include continuous attention to number one (letting go in the moment) and a drop of concentrated effort towards number two through very little time overall
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Quote:
curious mouse said: is there ever a point when one should give up on their dreams...
yes. right now.
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Re: pursuing the dream [Re: Ferdinando]
#14168680 - 03/23/11 07:58 AM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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This year I have been changing myself and I find that I am a lot 'happier' with the environment. My environment has stayed the same yet I am a lot happier with it...
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Quote:
curious mouse said: is there ever a point when one should give up on their dreams because they seem too fanciful or not practical enough to make a living?
that's up to you.
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Eckhart Tolle spent years on a bench in bliss the less wired for happiness one's brain becomes the more one starts to feel that one misses something many who have the opportunity to do so try to fill out the emptiness by buying stuff
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we do do more than one thing between waking in the morning and going to sleep (unless the night shift engages - just reverse the between) except for internet addiction many of us have interests which we should not abandon, any one of them could be a meal ticket for a while, and then again for another. pursue all the dreams focus on one at a time, but do not abandon what you love.
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Thanks for reminding of that pull I am totally addicted I took a deliberate break once, took too much of my time I feel fine about it now, not totally though
I feel the same way as durantz described I think once you get more happy about yourself you start to get more happy about what is around you as the way you perceive things is what you changed, you did not manipulate memories so what else is there to regulate than direction of attention and as a result habits right? I sure have learned a lot here on to the next thread
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Quote:
curious mouse said: is there ever a point when one should give up on their dreams because they seem too fanciful or not practical enough to make a living?
The thing is that even if you actualize your dream its extremely unlikely that it will be like you imagined it to be.
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Quote:
curious mouse said: is there ever a point when one should give up on their dreams because they seem too fanciful or not practical enough to make a living?
Yes, sort of - every now and then.
I want to become a writer/filmmaker. Sometimes i can see myself being a documentarist rather than an avid writer. Whenever i think of myself being a huge successful writer, it often gets distorted when i think of my writing skills now...which arent so good. :-\
You have to keep reminding yourself that you can always reach that dream, it may not be the same specific one you've been striving for all your life - but you will get somewhere near it and be very happy when you do.
Whatever you want to do, you've been doing it all your life.
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Quote:
GrizzlyBear said:
You have to keep reminding yourself that you can always reach that dream, it may not be the same specific one you've been striving for all your life - but you will get somewhere near it and be very happy when you do.
Personally I keep finding more of the same. Here are some of the things I've done:
Travel around Asia leisurely for a year. Pursue a PhD in Neuroscience. Work in a factory. Go to highschool. Produce and sell art.
Most people would look at these things and think they are all very different. From an external point of view, sure you can find many differences. But experiential I keep finding the same pleasures and difficulties.
For example all of the above has its sources of excitement and sources of dull monotony. I find that maintaining interest and excitement and dealing with monotony and boredom has much to do with my approach and little to do with whatever I am pursuing.
A trap that people get caught up in is imagining some future in which they will be happy. They make a list of things they need to achieve to be happy and then go about pursuing those things. The problem is our imagination does not meet reality.
For example you might work for other people and get sick of them telling you what to do, so you start your own business only to find that the customer tells you what to do with their purchases and complaints and the economy tells you what to do and the governemnt tells you what to do and then you find you've invested your life and time and energy into an illusion of freedom.
In other words when you make that documentary and find you aren't any happier than before you made that documentary, take a look at yourself and maybe you'll find it has more to do with the internal world than the external world.
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Quote:
curious mouse said: is there ever a point when one should give up on their dreams because they seem too fanciful or not practical enough to make a living?
This kind along the same lines as Freedom's post...
I don't think any of us actually have "dreams"....just feelings we want to feel. Our brains turn that into some fantasy scenario which fills a need at the time.
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Re: pursuing the dream [Re: Freedom]
#14176837 - 03/24/11 04:13 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Freedom said:
Quote:
GrizzlyBear said:
You have to keep reminding yourself that you can always reach that dream, it may not be the same specific one you've been striving for all your life - but you will get somewhere near it and be very happy when you do.
Personally I keep finding more of the same. Here are some of the things I've done:
Travel around Asia leisurely for a year. Pursue a PhD in Neuroscience. Work in a factory. Go to highschool. Produce and sell art.
Most people would look at these things and think they are all very different. From an external point of view, sure you can find many differences. But experiential I keep finding the same pleasures and difficulties.
For example all of the above has its sources of excitement and sources of dull monotony. I find that maintaining interest and excitement and dealing with monotony and boredom has much to do with my approach and little to do with whatever I am pursuing.
A trap that people get caught up in is imagining some future in which they will be happy. They make a list of things they need to achieve to be happy and then go about pursuing those things. The problem is our imagination does not meet reality.
For example you might work for other people and get sick of them telling you what to do, so you start your own business only to find that the customer tells you what to do with their purchases and complaints and the economy tells you what to do and the governemnt tells you what to do and then you find you've invested your life and time and energy into an illusion of freedom.
In other words when you make that documentary and find you aren't any happier than before you made that documentary, take a look at yourself and maybe you'll find it has more to do with the internal world than the external world.
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Edited by GrizzlyBear (03/24/11 04:18 PM)
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Ferdinando


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great post Freedom
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Re: pursuing the dream [Re: Ferdinando]
#14177015 - 03/24/11 04:42 PM (12 years, 11 months ago) |
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In other words when you make that documentary and find you aren't any happier than before you made that documentary, take a look at yourself and maybe you'll find it has more to do with the internal world than the external world.

I think this is why some people make so many documentaries! Always looking for happiness in the next one
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