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Doc_T
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Re: And NOW I am remembering WHY Morning Glories are my favorite source of LSA [Re: JacksonMetaller]
#14182496 - 03/25/11 02:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hey guys, I got some Heavenly Blue morning glories- the pack says "for planting purposes only", so that's the good ones, right?
Plant them and grow more seeds, yes?
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Re: And NOW I am remembering WHY Morning Glories are my favorite source of LSA [Re: Doc_T]
#14182505 - 03/25/11 02:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I find that your stomach is the perfect foundation to grow Morning Glories in. In 4 hours majickal thangs'll start doing thangs in yo thangs.
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Re: And NOW I am remembering WHY Morning Glories are my favorite source of LSA [Re: sunset_mission]
#14182605 - 03/25/11 02:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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HBWR or Morning glory?
Which do you guys prefer? I don't know which ones to buy..
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Re: And NOW I am remembering WHY Morning Glories are my favorite source of LSA [Re: Fractalus]
#14182699 - 03/25/11 03:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Read the first goddamn post
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Comradez
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Re: And NOW I am remembering WHY Morning Glories are my favorite source of LSA [Re: Azure Essence]
#14183344 - 03/25/11 07:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Someone earlier in the thread asserted that morning glories had a broader spectrum of ergolines than HBWR seeds do, and that this led to qualitatively different effects (more visual).
I'm curious, what evidence is there that morning glories have a broader spectrum of ergolines? Which ones, in particular, are we talking about? LSH?
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Re: And NOW I am remembering WHY Morning Glories are my favorite source of LSA [Re: Comradez]
#14183684 - 03/25/11 08:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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No, HBWR;s are not visual. There is no evidence of them being used as a hallucinogen (Morning Glories were), HBWR's were used in Ayurvedic medicine to increase intelligence. HBWR's are alot mental, barely visual.
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Austrip
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Re: And NOW I am remembering WHY Morning Glories are my favorite source of LSA [Re: sunset_mission]
#14183963 - 03/25/11 08:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm like Ash and LSA is like Pikachu instead of LSD being like Charizard when I don't even have the proper gym badge to control it nah mean?
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Re: And NOW I am remembering WHY Morning Glories are my favorite source of LSA [Re: Austrip]
#14184058 - 03/25/11 09:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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So, now is the time to hit up home depot for morning glory seeds eh? Interesting...
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Re: And NOW I am remembering WHY Morning Glories are my favorite source of LSA [Re: Joolz]
#14184080 - 03/25/11 09:07 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I cant wait til I get paid and I can pick them up! The good thing is, everyone else in this small town is way too stupid to know anything about the seeds other than some polite older couples who will want to plant them. I feel bad they wont have any Morning Glorys in there garden's this year, but what evs
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Re: And NOW I am remembering WHY Morning Glories are my favorite source of LSA [Re: Azure Essence]
#14184144 - 03/25/11 09:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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this thread just made me whatn to gets some MG now too, ive read alot about it but didnt think much of it, i need to order some onlineee nowwwww!!!!
So, if the seeds are treated with something just washing them with soap will do you good?
and, where in home depot did ya find em? are stores known for selling the good ones?
if not i think ill just order them instead
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Re: And NOW I am remembering WHY Morning Glories are my favorite source of LSA [Re: Azure Essence]
#14184158 - 03/25/11 09:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I fucking work at Home Depot, often in the garden center. I'm so excited. I'm gonna stockpile. I just hope it doesn't come off as too suspicious.
I need to look into our succulents too because I might be missing out on some mescaline
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Re: And NOW I am remembering WHY Morning Glories are my favorite source of LSA [Re: the_drummer]
#14184175 - 03/25/11 09:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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hell yeah dude get on that shit lol.
have you seen them in the store before or no?
if so how big of bags do they come in?
are they just with the majority of the other seeds?
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Re: And NOW I am remembering WHY Morning Glories are my favorite source of LSA [Re: Ghostwriter]
#14184180 - 03/25/11 09:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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mamdbdylan said:
and, where in home depot did ya find em? are stores known for selling the good ones?
Seeds in our store are sold in two giant kiosks in the inside garden area, by the lawn furniture. I can't vouch for the quality of the seeds though because I've never tried them.
I've never seen them personally but the seed selection in fairly impressive. The bags aren't that big though. I think it works out like there is a 60% chance the seed is going to grow into a plant so if there are `100 seeds in there, only 60 are viable. If you're looking to buy in bulk, I would recommend going online.
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Re: And NOW I am remembering WHY Morning Glories are my favorite source of LSA [Re: the_drummer]
#14184194 - 03/25/11 09:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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oh nice thanks,
i ment did they have a coating of something to make you puke them up by saying if they were good or not though.
i heard that alot of them do so i figured the ones in the stores would
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Re: And NOW I am remembering WHY Morning Glories are my favorite source of LSA [Re: sunset_mission]
#14184515 - 03/25/11 10:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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sunset_mission said: No, HBWR;s are not visual. There is no evidence of them being used as a hallucinogen (Morning Glories were), HBWR's were used in Ayurvedic medicine to increase intelligence. HBWR's are alot mental, barely visual.
For one, I would dispute that generalization. I have experienced walls and floors breathing, carpet designs flowing, and colors subtly flashing different colors on as few as 6 HBWR seeds. On the other hand, I've had HBWR trips that have been completely mental and not visual at all.
So, that's why I'm wondering: is there any evidence that HBWR and morning glories have different proportions of ergolines? What other ergolines do morning glories (or the rare visual batches of HBWR) have that could account for the different effects?
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Re: And NOW I am remembering WHY Morning Glories are my favorite source of LSA [Re: Comradez]
#14184886 - 03/26/11 12:03 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: And NOW I am remembering WHY Morning Glories are my favorite source of LSA [Re: jingus]
#14184923 - 03/26/11 12:12 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've never been to a garden center that didn't sell morning glories this time of year. I think the majority of the blue varieties are psychoactive(Heavenly Blues and Pearly Gates(white) seem to be the most common also check for Flying Saucers, pink/purple/red varieties aren't what you want), the seeds should be black and have 3 edges like a slice of an orange kinda. My only experience ingesting them was simply chewing up some home grown, they don't even taste that bad, kinda like sesame seeds. I don't remember any significant nausea, certainly not enough to throw up over. Maybe they just liked me because i spent months taking care of them
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Re: And NOW I am remembering WHY Morning Glories are my favorite source of LSA [Re: sunset_mission]
#14184955 - 03/26/11 12:22 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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sunset_mission said: No, HBWR;s are not visual. There is no evidence of them being used as a hallucinogen (Morning Glories were), HBWR's were used in Ayurvedic medicine to increase intelligence. HBWR's are alot mental, barely visual.
You must be getting the wrong kind of seeds. HBWR is definitely visual. I was getting visuals for a good six hours when I took them along with mental effects and a whole lot of euphoria. The walls were breathing, patterns/colors flowing together, my face was morphing when I stared at myself in the mirror. This was off of 9 seeds. I initially took 5, didn't feel any effects for 2 hours then took 4 more and then blast off!
I have heard that MG are more visual. I've never tried them but I'd be interested in trying them to see how they compare.
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Re: And NOW I am remembering WHY Morning Glories are my favorite source of LSA [Re: Comradez]
#14186033 - 03/26/11 09:49 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Comradez said:
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sunset_mission said: No, HBWR;s are not visual. There is no evidence of them being used as a hallucinogen (Morning Glories were), HBWR's were used in Ayurvedic medicine to increase intelligence. HBWR's are alot mental, barely visual.
For one, I would dispute that generalization. I have experienced walls and floors breathing, carpet designs flowing, and colors subtly flashing different colors on as few as 6 HBWR seeds. On the other hand, I've had HBWR trips that have been completely mental and not visual at all.
What I meant to say is, yes HBWR's can be visual but for the most part I've found that Morning Glories outbeat HBWR's in that department for me. I've been doing MG's for close to 4 years now and earlier this year I had my little trials with HBWR and I did see tracers, EXTREME euphoria, the world was in HD, patterns, face morphing, etc. I've taken up to 15 at a time also with weed, and that resulted in some pretty decent visuals.
However, to this day my 10g of MG's + Weed trip about 2 years ago seriously gave me the most intense OEV's in my life; DXM, DMT and surprisingly Syrian Rue + Lemon Tek'd Psilocybin still cannot compare (for now anyways).
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Comradez said: So, that's why I'm wondering: is there any evidence that HBWR and morning glories have different proportions of ergolines? What other ergolines do morning glories (or the rare visual batches of HBWR) have that could account for the different effects?
I made a thread about this that absolutely nobody paid attention to called HBWR/Morning Glory/Rivea Corymbosa Comparison. Here is the OP from that thread:
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sunset_mission said: This gives a very in-depth explanation as to why the LSA experience of Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds, Morning Glory seeds and Rivea Corymbosa seeds each have their own distinctive nature. I suspected this myself after I'd completed my trials with 100 HBWR seeds and experienced predominately mental effects; whereas my ventures with Morning Glories back in the day were often very, VERY visual. I have yet to experiment with Rivea Corymbosa though it will be the next logical step in my experiment with this molecule and its derivatives.
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The main psychoactive constituent of the seeds of Rivea corymbosa is ergine or d-lysergic acid amide. Minor alkaloids present are the related d-isolysergic acid amide (isoergine), chanoclavine, elymoclavine and lysergol.
The seeds of Ipomoea violacea (Morning Glory) have a similar composition, but instead of lysergol, they have ergometrine (ergonovine). Later, very minor amounts of two alkaloids ergometrinine and penniclavine - were found in I. violacea by chromatography. the total alkaloid content of the seeds of Ipomoea viloacea is approximately five times as great as that of the seeds of Rivea corymbosa: 0.06% in the former; 0.012% in the latter.
This difference in the alkaloid content explains why Indians employ smaller doses of seeds of the Rivea corymbosa than of the Ipomoea. Rivea seeds are employed in a similar fashion as Hawaiian Baby Woodrose are and in similar quantities.
Seeds of various Morning Glories contain Ergolines: ergine, isoergine,ergonovine Glucosides: turbicoryn [apparently in Rivea corymbosa only] called Tlitlitzen (Aztec word for The Divine Black One) to the Aztecs, Black is a hot color, a property of psychotropics associated with light.
I. violacea, often referred to by it's synonyms I. rubro-caerulea and I. tricolor, is represented in horticulture by a number of varieties, such as: Heavenly Blue, Pearly Gates, Flying Saucers, Wedding Bells, Summer Skies, and Blue Stars - all of which contain the hallucinogenic ergot alkaloids.
The seed of A. nervosa (Hawaiian Baby Woodrose) is the best plant source of ergoline alkaloids discovered; it contains approximately 3 mg of alkaloidal material per gram of seed. Approximately one-eighth of this is lysergamide.
Hylin and Watson found the major alkaloidal constituents in A. nervosa seeds to be ergine (780 mcg/g of fresh seed) and isoergine and penniclavine (555 mcg).
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Re: And NOW I am remembering WHY Morning Glories are my favorite source of LSA [Re: sunset_mission]
#14186179 - 03/26/11 10:46 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Mind if I asked which strain of MG was your favorite?
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