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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Seuss]
    #14169162 - 03/23/11 10:31 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Check out any of the following:

San Quentin State Prison, California
Rikers, New York




May as well just kill yourself if you're looking at Rikers or SQ. Someone else will just do it for you.

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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: SuperD]
    #14169260 - 03/23/11 10:48 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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U.S. society and life, as fucked up as it is, is not proportionate to U.S. prison society and life.  Prison in the U.S. is like entering another country.  Some horribly fucked up land.




I understand your view (but also the other side).

I have most empathy with your view, however. I feel like I have been traumatized, long term,  by being locked up-- and it's only happened to me a couple times, for very short periods.

This may be the most naive thing I've posted here-- but I feel like I want to do something to change this. Can anything be done?

I've considered raising awareness toward the issue, but they practically already romanticize the shit on the "educational" channels on our United States Cable System.

What can be done? Anything?

The prison industrial complex is another big piece of this machine that has become unwieldy and infected.




Cidney, this is a sad moment in time because we have reached the point where privatized prisons are being publicly traded on the stock market.  Look up GEO, CRN just to name a few.  More prisoners in prison = higher stock earnings.  You have to tackle that problem before you can even begin to think about dismantling the machine.  I wish we as regular citizens had more power.




Wow, I knew there was a lot of money in privatized prisons but had no idea that anyone could buy stock and make money off of it.  That's really fucked up.


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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Humility]
    #14170011 - 03/23/11 01:10 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Ya I'd love to see someone in a prison with no rights, no lawyer, and can't even speak the language everyone else speaks try and say american prisons are the worst in the world.  That's just not true.




*sigh*



@Humility your ignorance is clearly shown in this thread.





Says the guy whose above quote is "I've never been to prison in the U.S. or abroad and never see myself in one (lol who does?)"

Okay I lied; THAT was my last post :smile:.






Wow.  Way to prove again your ignorance.....you aren't even reading the posts that are replied to you.  I siad nothing of the sort of not spending any time in the joint.  I am actually looking at quite a stretch.  The quote says nothing you referred to? 


People get aids coming out of prison?  Gee....no kidding.  They also do in africa where women get pointed at and told they will be fucked regardless of their disposition, and thats when you are FREE.  People get aids in brooklyn being raped just as they do in LA, FREE.  The same shit goes on outside of prison as it does inside of prison.  People don't get proper living conditions, cops beat the shit out of people, people get raped, people don't eat.  Prison isn't fucking summer camp, it's fucking prison.  The prisons you are referring to are prisons murderers and rapists get sent to, and frankly I'm happy more money is put into them not being released.  I don't want some scum bag that killed a family while raping their daughter to have a comfy life sentence.

Not all prisons are the same, and you get placed in one depending on your crime.  Some states have clearly worse prisons then others, but if you don't like it don't fuck up.  There shouldn't be tax dollars into giving a rapist an all you can eat buffett, and a tempurpedic mattress. 

I agree the system sucks, but its whats happening, and it's not going to get different.  I will continue to say that there is far worse countries where you can be free, then any us prison.  I'll take slop on a plate and rape in the ass, over nothing but sand, no water, and rape in the ass thank you very much.

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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: vandago]
    #14170230 - 03/23/11 01:45 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Smokin' that shit again Vandango?  You aren't anywhere in that embedded quote brah.


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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Humility]
    #14170276 - 03/23/11 01:54 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

only go out at night
wear clothes you would not normally wear
cover all tatoos/remove peircings
cut hair style differently even dye hair
go on facebook and put some bullshit about going somwhere far away from where youre planning to stay
dont tell anyone you dont trust as much as you
trust yourself
learn who lives around you / and the vehicles that are normally in that area
juat keep your eyes open and dont act a fool n you should slip under the radar

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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Humility]
    #14170325 - 03/23/11 02:00 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Smokin' that shit again Vandango?  You aren't anywhere in that embedded quote brah.






Ya I had to reread the whole page, cause what he quoted was my quote, and I thought you were referring to mine.  I ain't smokin anything for a long time :frown:

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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: vandago]
    #14170511 - 03/23/11 02:33 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Smokin' that shit again Vandango?  You aren't anywhere in that embedded quote brah.






Ya I had to reread the whole page, cause what he quoted was my quote, and I thought you were referring to mine.  I ain't smokin anything for a long time :frown:




Sorry brah :frown:; it's better than the alternative though.

Hope that works out for you.


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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Humility]
    #14170607 - 03/23/11 02:52 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

damn good luck.

imo the safest way to do it is to cover all your bases. you have to change your appearance of course, whether thats losing weight or gaining it, shaving or growing out a beard etc, and you can go all out and get shoes that adjust your height and are of a size that you didn't previously wear, and you can even get realistic masks online (pretty expensive though), they are good enough that people have been using them to flee communist countries. you can also wear a wig like that douche jorge cervantes, or you can dip your fingers in liquid bandaids all the time for no fingerprints (I've even heard of some crazier people who cut their fingers in different directions until their prints were unidentifiable.

all that can be taken pretty far, but the most important thing is just simply not being recognized by anyone easily, then getting a fake ID. you can get scannable ones for a couple hundred, and you can get scannable passports to flee the country (I hear) for around 3k. if you wanted to you could change your appearance, get a fake ID, get citizenship to a country like poland which is really easy, then get legitimate papers from there and then get a visa for the US.


There are all sorts of variations on this shit. Personally I've never tried any of them, don't even have a fake ID, but I've been thinking it would be nice to get good enough at it that I never have to get anything on my actual record


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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: 1tokeovrtheline] * 1
    #14173950 - 03/24/11 02:28 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Wow, This was the most interesting thread that I've read on here in a long time.
Actual discourse.
OP, you can't run or you'll be more fucked than you already are.
It just isn't possible anymore and for you to ask this question publicly on what is probably best known as a drug forum is just :facepalm:
If you will find the courage to begin to own up to whatever is going on then you will have made the first correct step.
I know how mean and vindictive that LEO can be. I know how they can sometimes make things seem much different than they really are. But I also know that if you aren't just wigging out on some drug that you should not run.
You will never outrun it. Maybe you are fastest at the starting line but kid, you will never outrun the long arm of the law.
I'm not making any kind of judgement whether you are right or wrong or whether they are right or wrong. I'm not saying that you are bad or even that the system is fair.
I'm saying that if you've gotten yourself in this far, the best thing that you can do for yourself is go camping for a few days all by yourself; no phone, no contact, no anything: and realize how lonely you will be before you are caught and probably slammed to the ground.
Get some fresh air and renew that connection that you may have had with your higher power as a younger person.
Then do the right thing.
There is no better thing that you can do except face the storm head on.
I feel for you because you may in fact have a rough road ahead.
But listen to an old fool: You are going to have to face this. Sooner or later. It will be easier for you to do it now.
Have a friend post in this thread so that some of us can write you once in a while or something to help make the time go by better. But not if you run.
I don't know you but I'll keep you in my meditations.
good luck.


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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Epilson Lyrae]
    #14173961 - 03/24/11 02:34 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Watch the show "I almost got away with it" and learn from their mistakes.

read the book "how to disappear" it's actually very interesting.

and also the usual stuff people are suggesting too!


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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Der Meister]
    #14174159 - 03/24/11 04:32 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)


Or you could watch the whole series of videos that starts with this:


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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Epilson Lyrae]
    #14175056 - 03/24/11 10:41 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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You will never outrun it. Maybe you are fastest at the starting line but kid, you will never outrun the long arm of the law.




Do you repeat negative mantras to yourself or something brah?

You are looking at this situation wrong man.  Needle, haystack.

You cannot stay in America indefinitely, but you can definitely outrun the knights of yesteryear.

There are even places the U.S. can't possibly extract you from like Venezuela or Cuba.  Brazil is a close third.

Your life is such that you don't know enough about hiding.  There are plenty of places to hide.  You're thinking of suburbia, I'm thinking of this:



The fear mongering is hilarious because in reality, locating someone is thousands of times more difficult than hiding.


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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Humility] * 1
    #14175180 - 03/24/11 11:12 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I read this thread and I get your point.  But what about family and friends?  People come back all the time because they need that.  I could see if it was murder, major distribution charges, or something extreemly serious, but for what the OP is being charged with I would think they would plea bargain it down and just go through the process. 
It fucking sucks, I've been through it, but it won't be a felony I would guess.


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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Epilson Lyrae]
    #14175357 - 03/24/11 11:48 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Or you could watch the whole series of videos that starts with this:





Great videos, I added it to the links in the stickied video thread.

A few corrections -

1) GPS does not tell the satellites where you are, it is only a radio receiver.  Onstar does though.
2) Cell phone towers find your location by measuring the time difference between when each of its antennas receives the signal, not through triangulation with 3 towers.
3) Luggage tags are RFID and they do not have GPS receivers as that would be large and expensive.

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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #14176365 - 03/24/11 03:00 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Don't run, odds are they'll catch you. If they aren't arresting you they can't search you for drugs. They can only do a weapons search and that's it. The only way around that is that they have probably cause. That means, don't smell like weed and don't have a bowl sitting on the passenger's seat.

There is a kinda famous case where a dude was walking out of a known crack house. A cop searched him and found crack. He was arrested but sued the cop because the cop really wasn't allowed to have performed the search. The crackhead won.

Basically, even if you have drugs in your pocket, just keep your cool and try to tell as few lies as possible.


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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Humility]
    #14176797 - 03/24/11 04:08 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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You will never outrun it. Maybe you are fastest at the starting line but kid, you will never outrun the long arm of the law.




Do you repeat negative mantras to yourself or something brah?

You are looking at this situation wrong man.  Needle, haystack.

You cannot stay in America indefinitely, but you can definitely outrun the knights of yesteryear.

There are even places the U.S. can't possibly extract you from like Venezuela or Cuba.  Brazil is a close third.

Your life is such that you don't know enough about hiding.  There are plenty of places to hide.  You're thinking of suburbia, I'm thinking of this:



The fear mongering is hilarious because in reality, locating someone is thousands of times more difficult than hiding.







You are suggesting over a year or two in prison you drop your whole way of life, your friends, family, pets, any goals you had.  I mean seriously why would someone go to brazil and hide in a hut because they are facing a year in prison.  And really from the sounds of it you are just as big as a fear mongering guy, with all your talk of rape this, aids that.  Some people fuck up, that's no reason to start living a life on the run, never knowing whats going to happen next and give everything up. 

Being in county alone I could never have thought " man if these walls fall down I'm outta here" .  I'm in this world for the love.  I'm not in it for myself.  I'm not going to ditch all the love that surrounds me to have myself somewhere in a delusion I'm free, because you are never free no matter where you go, and no matter what, you always have you, so who cares where you go.....as long as people still love and care about you as much as you do them.

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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: vandago]
    #14180813 - 03/25/11 07:59 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I don't have the kind of tie-downs that you do in my life.

I could do maybe up to 12-18 mos. if I were arrested for some sort of commercial crime that I was supporting myself off of such as being in possession of or selling this or that.


Anything longer than that and it simply doesn't benefit me to stay here.  I could come and visit my family whenever I want (middle of the ghetto); and honestly I don't really have any reason to be here.  My area isn't nice, I don't own a home or any substantial property and my familial ties are strained at best.

I speak two foreign languages and I'm proficient in a number of dialects of my native language.  I can communicate with the entirety of the Americas, Australia, NZ, and the majority of Western Europe.

I'm more of a world traveler anyway.  I barely need an excuse to get lost.  I'd rather be fucking sexy Brazilian women in the ass (s00per easy) than playing dominoes with a bunch of swinging dicks.

But hey, that's just me.

Lots of people talk about making the most of prison. I'd rather just go on vacation.

You goad me well Vandango :frown:./


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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Humility]
    #14181179 - 03/25/11 10:00 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

> I can communicate with the entirety of the Americas

You speak Patois?  I'm impressed, especially considering how many dialects there are across the various islands in the Caribbean.  Just in the islands around where I live, people speak English, French, Dutch, Spanish, Portuguese,  and twenty or so dialects of Patois (which is kind of like Jive).


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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Seuss]
    #14193499 - 03/27/11 05:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Basically what people Alan said about everything you need to drop and never pick back up again is what is necessary to run and never get caught.  Can you do without email, cell phones, direct communication with your family, never really leaving the house, everything everyone has mentioned?  If you really think it through and the answer is yes then you can try it.  I can't imagine going on the run for the rest of my life with the way technology keeps changing.  You really would have to live cut off from the rest of the world. 

If you decide to do it I hear Buenos Aires is beautiful and cheap living and you could live in a pretty modern city that way if you can pick up the language.

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Re: How to run from the cops and get away with it? [Re: Bipolarbear]
    #14223304 - 04/01/11 09:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Get out of the U.S. its the only way. If you stay here you're one public intox or domestic situation away from having your prints run no matter how good your fake ID is. Doesnt matter if you never talk to anyone you ever knew before all it takes is getting pulled over and your fake ID not passing, then getting your prints run. If you do flea to a different country you're gonna need a good bit of cash to get where you feel comfortable. Drop your American IDs and pick up some legit ID from a foreign country.

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