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InvisibleBuckthorn
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probably have schizophrenia or some shit
    #14173855 - 03/24/11 01:39 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

every once in a while i'll just start feeling as if my environment and the information it contains  is intentionally and systematically altered in order to influence me.

weird synchronicities will just start occuring and will trigger me to have actual sensations of adrenaline or whatever inside my body.

i'm starting to believe that the internet is more dangerous then television in terms of it's ability to influence/program a person..

with previously recorded information on my perceptions/ worldviews from when i was in the mental hospital combined with personalized advertising and access to all of the shit i've posted across forums and on facebook, the cia or whoever the fuck wants to fuck with my head could easily systematically link different pictures, concepts, and text in order to achieve their goals...

you probably think i'm just being paranoid but it honestly feels as if this shit is being triggered and after it's triggered it is then conditioned.

FUCK. i think i need a really long break from the internet. i need to read books instead of just forum posts, facebook statuses, and memes.

it's how i'm taking in the information. words which when glanced at look like other words.

i wish i could explain in more detail.


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Re: probably have schizophrenia or some shit [Re: Buckthorn]
    #14173887 - 03/24/11 01:58 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

the digital world can have extreme affects to ones mind, get your self out in nature and forget about media or internet related shit. its a realy healthy way of extracting nonsense, not that it is all nonsense, but imo physical exerition and exposior to nature is a major key in self harmony, knowing that what i'm posting now is ultimately artiificial, helps me reinforce what i absorb in these elements. take a walk wherever you can and come to terms with what you can.


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Re: probably have schizophrenia or some shit [Re: Grungeman17]
    #14175610 - 03/24/11 12:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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the digital world can have extreme affects to ones mind, get your self out in nature and forget about media or internet related shit. its a realy healthy way of extracting nonsense, not that it is all nonsense, but imo physical exerition and exposior to nature is a major key in self harmony, knowing that what i'm posting now is ultimately artiificial, helps me reinforce what i absorb in these elements. take a walk wherever you can and come to terms with what you can.




The moment I read this post, this is what came to mind, seriously.


I'd say, as it is for myself as well, the more aware you are of a things influence on your consciousness and your own consciousness in general, the more power you have to manipulate your own consciousness and bypass any programming it may embed.
It seriously sounds like nature can be your biggest ally in riding out this wave of "madness". I'd also encourage you not to panic, or go off labeling it or calling yourself insane... You'll be alright. :awesomenod:
Take a break from electronic media and immerse yourself in the world not woven by humans.
Just sounds like you need a little grounding. :wink:

Listen to these two songs, The Dive part one and two. Part one being reminiscent of where you are at now, part two being what ya need to hear.
Seriously, you'll be alright. :cool::thumbup:



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Re: probably have schizophrenia or some shit [Re: Buckthorn]
    #14185058 - 03/26/11 12:58 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

What where you in a mental hospital for? Schizo-related or not?

If it really is schizophrenia no amount of tuning out from the internet/TV/ whatever will help, you should at least talk to someone close about it and if possible go talk to a professional, if it's just stress, then no problem, if it indeed is some sort of mental illness, then the sooner you find it the better because once it's in full swing you seldomly come back...

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Re: probably have schizophrenia or some shit [Re: Buckthorn] * 1
    #14186180 - 03/26/11 10:46 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I used to take care of a 45 year old man with schizophrenia. His parents were dead but he still asked to see them, bought them presants, and insisted they were alive. Someone named Merl beat him up in highschool and he believes that Merl is always following him and trying to kill him. I would drive by a store and he would shout...Merls gonna burn it down!! We would be shopping at the mall, he would walk up to an employee, whisper in their ear "Merls gonna steal stuff, watch out."

He often thought I was trying to poison him. He thought I was stealing his money. He always told me how he was the QB for the Denver Broncos, he graduated from NotreDam college, and he was a hardass.

I felt bad for the guy.

I dont know how bad your condition is but I hope this example helps. This man was a true schizophrenic.

good luck to you.


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Re: probably have schizophrenia or some shit [Re: XUL]
    #14186765 - 03/26/11 01:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

it could just be that you notice those things more than others


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Re: probably have schizophrenia or some shit [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
    #14187789 - 03/26/11 04:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Take Niacin.
Up to three grams/ day.
People have been cured of Schizophrenia with Niacin, though the Modern Medical Monster (and it's many devotees) will deny this.

But, at the end of the day, real life people applaud the role of Vitamin B3 in their healing process.

If you Google "Niacin" and "Dr. Abram Hoffer," you'll find his Orthomolecular basis for the treatment of Schizophrenia with Niacin (Vitmain B3) and Vitamin C. Hoffer argues that Schizophrenics have large levels of "adrenochrome" in their systems (oxidized adrenaline), and the presence of adrenochrome in mass causes "LSD-like" mental states to persist throughout the schizophrenic's life. Niacin regulates the adrenochrome in the body, restoring the chemical balance. He argues that Schizophrenia, Brain Fog and even Depression and Anxiety are all related to the heightened presence of Adrenochrome and that Vitamin C and Niacin will combine to harmoneously restore the balance that we seek in Body and Mind.

There are testamonials of Parents of schizophrenic children and schizophrenics who have been healed using Niacin (simple, cheap and safe) and Vitamin C, as guided by Dr. Hoffer.

In fact, Dr. Hoffer's first ever patient was a Schizophrenic who was so intensely paralyzed by his condition that he could not move his body, he was frozen and bound in a hellish psychic and physical state. Hoffer gave this man an IV of Niacin, checked in with the man the next day and he was sitting up, asking for more medicine. Eventually the man was healed.

While Niacin is a potent healing modality for intense forms of schizophrenia, it is also applicable to mild cases of schizophrenia, depersonalization disorder, depression, anxiety and brain fog. The chemical structure of Niacin is similar to that of Nicotine, some online sources even claim that Niacin is delivered into the bloodstream by smoking tobacco (google "nightlight" + "smoking is good for you), though I am uncertain about this claim.

Bear in mind that Niacin will cause an unpleasant flush, just sit it out, be cool and realize that you can not overdose...it's merely a detoxification of the adrenochrome and histamine in your body...


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Re: probably have schizophrenia or some shit [Re: MaryWarnerSamadhi]
    #14188891 - 03/26/11 08:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

...Wow!


Thanks for this^...:thumbup:


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Re: probably have schizophrenia or some shit [Re: FishOilTheKid] * 1
    #14189368 - 03/26/11 10:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

My pleasure.
I'm happy to spread this information when I bear in mind that Dr. Hoffer claims to have treated over 5,000 schizophrenic patients with niacin. One of his first successes was a 12 year old boy whose father had to crush the niacin tablets and spread them onto a jam sandwich. He was entirely healed, and is now a research psychiatrist. The main reason why Niacin is not being praised as the miracle cure that it is is because it cannot be patented, so in a society that worships mammon, the fat cats aren't looking to give away cheap treatments.
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Re: probably have schizophrenia or some shit [Re: MaryWarnerSamadhi]
    #14190248 - 03/27/11 02:27 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Your USA-centric attitude is laughable.
Sure, in the USA, where health costs money, and drugs make mucho dolares for the "medical" industry, sure, niacin therapy might not make financial sense for doctors (who are ALL evil) to prescribe.
Why isn't it used in countries where niacin is cheap and freely available, healthcare is free, thus cost/benefit aware, and antipsychotic drugs are expensive?
Wait, I bet it's some sort of fucking conspiracy.
It is, isn't it?
You can buy niacin off the shelf of any supermarket here, cure your schizophrenia for pennies, and yet no one does. Why is that, do you think?
Probably because only a select few have your secret knowledge, and the government and pharmaceutical companies are suppressing it like a motherfucker, right?
I mean, there are so many so-called "scientific" papers published every year titled "Niacin Does NOT Cure Schizophrenia, Don't even TRY IT!!!!"
And that's why doctors working in non-profit-led medical systems never prescribe niacin megadosing.
Fuck those cunting conspiracists!!!


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Re: probably have schizophrenia or some shit [Re: Champion des Champignons]
    #14191208 - 03/27/11 09:17 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I mean, there are so many so-called "scientific" papers published every year titled "Niacin Does NOT Cure Schizophrenia, Don't even TRY IT!!!!"




You don't have any links do you...??


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Re: probably have schizophrenia or some shit [Re: MaryWarnerSamadhi]
    #14191602 - 03/27/11 11:08 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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MaryWarnerSamadhi said:
Take Niacin.





For schizophrenia? I have schizoeffective  disorder, and I also take 1000mg of Niaspan (Time release niacin) for my cholesterol, and it doesn't seem to help my mental illness much.


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Re: probably have schizophrenia or some shit [Re: Le_Canard]
    #14192085 - 03/27/11 12:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

1. Champion: I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I'm merely pointing out the fact that medications [such as Niaspan] are hiked up in price while Niacin is relatively cheap. Like I said, there are always devotees to the Modern Medical Machine and the studies that they pump out...But at the end of the day, it's REAL people whose stories of success and healing matter. Here are just a few REAL LIFE (not statistical, on-paper arguments and refutations)
    a.) John Hammel, President of International Advocates of Health Freedom, for example, cured himself of schizophrenia with Dr. Hoffer's method after four years in a mental hospital.
    b.) Margot Kidder, as seen in the film "Masks of Madness, Science of Healing" gathers together a group of schizophrenics who have all been healed by orthomolecular (vitamin-therapy) medicine.
    c.) From 4optimallife.com:
   
        "The following dietary and nutritional regimen is reported to have over a 90% success rate with patients who are ill for the first time or who are suffering their second or third episode with healthy periods in between. It is reported that after two years over 90% will be well, none will be worse, and none will have tardive dyskinesia (drug-induced involuntary muscular movements). They will have to remain on the regimen many years, perhaps their entire lives.

For chronic patients – those who have failed to improve from previous treatment, including those mentally disturbed for years (although not the chronic patients seen in the back wards of mental hospitals)– about 50% will improve after 10 years. However, not all will be working.

These results are based on:

Six prospective double-blind studies. 1
Personal observations of over 4000 patients.
Studies conducted by colleagues.
Letters received from patients who were never personally seen but tried the treatment program.
DIET:

Elimination of all processed or prepared foods containing added refined sugars and probably 90% of other additives, as foods that contain added sugars usually contain other additives.

Elimination diets to remove all foods to which the patient is allergic or sensitive.

SUPPLEMENTS:

Vitamin B3 (niacin or niacinamide) 0.5 – 2 grams 3 times daily.
Vitamin B6 (for many) 250-500 mg daily.
A general B vitamin formula.
Vitamin C, 3 or more grams daily.
Zinc (gluconate or citrate) 50 mg daily.
Manganese 15-30 mg daily (if there is danger of tardive dyskinesia).
I also use omega three essential fatty acids rich in EPA and less rich in DHA. The best preparation contains three times as much EPA as it does DHA. I use four large capsules twice daily This product I use is Kirunal.


There are other sources as well...
Real, concrete examples of people being healed of schizophrenia...this is otherwise unheard of...


2. Toiletduk: You need to take 2-3grams per day of Niacin. Why are you on Niaspan? It's more expensive and the only difference is that it's time released correct?


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Re: probably have schizophrenia or some shit [Re: MaryWarnerSamadhi]
    #14192729 - 03/27/11 02:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Niacin won't cure shit as far as mental disorders go, that's a fact of life, don't ask for sources before you post credible scientific proof that it does. And no, dr. Hoffers or whoevers stories don't count.

Schizophrenia is a serious disease of the brain, like diabetes is a disease of the pancreas (more or less), it sucks, it has always sucked and it will suck some more. But that's life, there are no quick fixes, if you are dealt bad cards you deal with them the best you can and don't put your hopes in uneducated morons with unfulfilled career dreams. Antipsychotics fit into the model of the disease we have today, tell me how does niacin fit into that? And please don't confuse knowledge with the medical system you seem to despise so much.

@toiletduk: man seriously? i feel for you, you always hinted towards something like that but it's the first time I see you speak about it, all the best, hope you are doing well


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Re: probably have schizophrenia or some shit [Re: 13.step]
    #14194026 - 03/27/11 07:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

It's funny that you brought up diabetes as an example of a real disease, when type 2 diabetes can be completely controlled by a very low carb diet and NO insulin injections, which are damaging to the body. I'm not on any side on this mental illness debate, but I think that goes pretty far to show you what proper nutrition and supplementation can do for someone's physical/mental state. I also don't think it's farfetched to say that mental illness can be cured by a completely healthy lifestyle, at least in a lot of cases, as the medications that the psychiatric industry prescribes are not always effective and often have severe negative side effects. But I don't have schizophrenia and I don't take niacin (I do take a nice blend of other supplements), so that's as far as my opinion goes. :shrug:


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Re: probably have schizophrenia or some shit [Re: MaryWarnerSamadhi] * 2
    #14195643 - 03/28/11 12:22 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

No thanks, I'll stick with what works for me.


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Re: probably have schizophrenia or some shit [Re: KingEmblem]
    #14196030 - 03/28/11 02:14 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I don't really think type 2 diabetes can be controlled trough lifestyle alone, at least not in the long run, most type 2 diabetics end up on insulin sooner or later. But yeah, lifestyle and diet help a good bit if you have a serious illness, even for schizophrenia there are things you can do that are proven to help, of course only after you get it under control with real medication and no, niacin ain't one of them...:lol:


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Re: probably have schizophrenia or some shit [Re: 13.step]
    #14197187 - 03/28/11 10:52 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I knew there would be haters, and haters there are.

The fact of the matter is that living, breathing people have been CURED of schizophrenia through Niacin and Orthomolecular therapy. Sorry fellas, those are the facts.
Your cynicism and closed-mindedness don't erase the facts.

Why would we listen to the arguments on paper, dealing only with medical theories and postulates, when we have living testaments from people who have been CURED of schizophrenia with Niacin therapy?

Even further, why not at least try Niacin. Look it up, do some searching, see the people who have been cured and saved and then come  back in here with your rampant cynicism and closed-mindedness.

Good day sir!

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Re: probably have schizophrenia or some shit [Re: MaryWarnerSamadhi]
    #14197631 - 03/28/11 12:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I for one believe you.  I've seen some documentaries on orthomolecular medicine which is very interesting.:thumbup:

Simple additions to my diet like wild salmon oil made big differences in my symptoms and mental function.

I've also been on some of the more standard antipsychotics like Haldol, Geodon, Zyprexa, Invega, Risperdal...  They work because they are extremely heavy and suppress allot of one's perception as it concerns the internal.  They really dull the mind and launch one into an almost immediate state of depression, at least in my experience.

Its as if the mind is trying to process the internal stimuli and witnessing this is very interesting and magical.  Or terrifying.  Then the meds rip you out of the experience and don't allow you to integrate this 'break down' healing/rebuilding phase that reveals so much about your mind.

Gentler drugs or supplements that allow you to be in the experience but better function are so much more helpful.  You can really seem on top of the experience if you don't feel like you are getting swallowed up by it mentally.:heart:


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Re: probably have schizophrenia or some shit [Re: MaryWarnerSamadhi]
    #14197635 - 03/28/11 12:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Why would we listen to the arguments on paper, dealing only with medical theories and postulates, when we have living testaments from people who have been CURED of schizophrenia with Niacin therapy?





:rofl2:

Did you just ask that??? Wow, talk about close mindedness...son look 'em books up, they not just decoration.

Let me ask you this buddy, how do you prove to me, halfway across the world that your neighbor was cured of schizophrenia with niacin therapy? Can't exactly show me and I don't believe your stories...so?

Are you dr. Hoffer? Wouldn't see it above him to do shit like this, he's basically the laughing stock of the medical community.

The most important question is this though: what's your involvement with schizophrenia and mental illness? Do you have someone in your family who is suffering? Are you suffering? Or are you just bored and purposeless? Lots of clueless people come in because it seems to be the new fad everybody has an opinion about, but at the end of the day people who suffer and those close to them are the only ones that really know what it's all about, so please, if your in it because of some abstract beliefs and have no personal experience, thanks for the opinion and kindly shut the fuck up.


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