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AaronEruditus
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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: Poid]
#14177688 - 03/24/11 06:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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You have not given me ONE example to show me where you're coming from. I freakin' 'poured my heart out' here, telling you how much I love Hip Hop(knowing you'd think of me as a joke or something) and telling you exactly why I think you made ridiculous claims.
I asked you for your experiences, but all of a sudden they don't seem important enough to tell, only how you interpreted them.
Nah mean?
-------------------- “Science is always discovering odd scraps of magical wisdom and making a tremendous fuss about its cleverness.” ~ Aleister Crowley “Self-importance is our greatest enemy. Think about it - what weakens us, is feeling offended by the deeds and misdeeds of our fellowmen. Our self-importance requires that we spend most of our lives offended by someone.” ~ Don Juan Matus
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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: Poid]
#14177691 - 03/24/11 06:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Poid said: White people who never grew up in such circumstances and who listen to rap are complete fakes. This isn't just limited to white people, though, anybody who listens to that shit and who isn't from a similar background is retarded.
Because enjoying music for the rhythm/melody/lyrics requires having an identical background to the artist? Get outta here. If anything, listening to such music may even help others understand and relate to the artist's disadvantaged background.
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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: deCypher]
#14177694 - 03/24/11 06:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I meant people who attempt to adopt the culture, not just anybody who listens to it; I explained this later on in the thread.
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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AaronEruditus
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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: deCypher]
#14177703 - 03/24/11 06:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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deCypher said:
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Poid said: White people who never grew up in such circumstances and who listen to rap are complete fakes. This isn't just limited to white people, though, anybody who listens to that shit and who isn't from a similar background is retarded.
Because enjoying music for the rhythm/melody/lyrics requires having an identical background to the artist? Get outta here. If anything, listening to such music may even help others understand and relate to the artist's disadvantaged background.
-------------------- “Science is always discovering odd scraps of magical wisdom and making a tremendous fuss about its cleverness.” ~ Aleister Crowley “Self-importance is our greatest enemy. Think about it - what weakens us, is feeling offended by the deeds and misdeeds of our fellowmen. Our self-importance requires that we spend most of our lives offended by someone.” ~ Don Juan Matus
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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: Poid]
#14177706 - 03/24/11 06:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ah, okay. Yeah, I'll agree with you that wiggers can be pretty annoying/fake but your post as originally stated definitely needed revision.
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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: AaronEruditus]
#14177707 - 03/24/11 06:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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AaronEruditus said: You have not given me ONE example to show me where you're coming from.
If you didn't read my posts, then WTF were you calling ridiculous? You said my statements were ridiculous, remember? I described the justification for my perspective, why the hell do you wanna know about any specific experiences? Why do they matter?
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AaronEruditus said: I freakin' 'poured my heart out' here, telling you how much I love Hip Hop(knowing you'd think of me as a joke or something) and telling you exactly why I think you made ridiculous claims.
I asked you for your experiences, but all of a sudden they don't seem important enough to tell, only how you interpreted them.
Nah mean?
Yup.
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: deCypher]
#14177713 - 03/24/11 06:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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deCypher said: Ah, okay. Yeah, I'll agree with you that wiggers can be pretty annoying/fake but your post as originally stated definitely needed revision. 
I entered this thread half-seriously, then eventually started becoming more precise--that post you quoted was during the half-serious phase.
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: deCypher]
#14177724 - 03/24/11 06:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Oh, well in that case I agree with you, Poid. White people listening to hip hop from a worldly perspective are just fine, but white people trying to live the music are idiotic. What they don't realize is that most MC's would x2, the point is to listen and take it as a warning, not to listen and decide that it sounds cool to deal crack and carry a .357.
And those quotes you had from me were actually questions to you, not just rhetoric.
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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: Poid]
#14177739 - 03/24/11 06:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ah, young Grasshopper, you must always enter a thread with preciseness and THEN gradually lapse into half-seriousness/humor. Unless you enjoy the sort of shit storm in replies that is aptly demonstrated in this thread.
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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: Caine]
#14177743 - 03/24/11 06:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Caine said: Oh, well in that case I agree with you, Poid. White people listening to hip hop from a worldly perspective are just fine, but white people trying to live the music are idiotic.
This is what I've been saying all along, I can't believe people got so fucking over-emotional over this (you didn't, though, you were cool ).
Fucking humans...
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: deCypher]
#14177749 - 03/24/11 06:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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deCypher said: Ah, young Grasshopper, you must always enter a thread with preciseness and THEN gradually lapse into half-seriousness/humor. Unless you enjoy the sort of shit storm in replies that is aptly demonstrated in this thread. 
Honestly, I didn't predict that it would get to the point that it did--I guess people have a lot of reserved emotions about race. 
And aren't I older than you!
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: Poid]
#14177754 - 03/24/11 06:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Dude, you're an idiot.
-------------------- "Its moving of its own accord...and I like that in a shirt!" - Me, tripping. deCypher said: Schizophrenia beats dining alone, you know.
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AaronEruditus
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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: AaronEruditus]
#14177758 - 03/24/11 06:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I love music. Hip Hop happens to be my favourite.
I also like to express myself creatively. Learning an instrument takes a while, plus it costs money (classes, the instrument itself).
Poetry only needs a tongue and a working brain. Nothing else. I can start kicking rhymes at the corner of the street without having to set up anything or carrying my instrument around with me.
It makes people laugh. It makes people nod their heads. It gets people together.
So, if I get my props from other's (including black people), how can you make fun of me for living the music I love SO MUCH? I love it more than anybody I've come in contact with, I could talk about quotables all day, and analyzing lyrics never gets old for me. I don't understand it...these statements only cause further segregation between black and white people, while I'm trying to make us come together.
-------------------- “Science is always discovering odd scraps of magical wisdom and making a tremendous fuss about its cleverness.” ~ Aleister Crowley “Self-importance is our greatest enemy. Think about it - what weakens us, is feeling offended by the deeds and misdeeds of our fellowmen. Our self-importance requires that we spend most of our lives offended by someone.” ~ Don Juan Matus
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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: Poid]
#14177763 - 03/24/11 06:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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You're posting on a board comprised of probably 80-90% white males between the ages of 18-24. What'd you expect? 
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Poid said: And aren't I older than you! 
How old are you again?
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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: Poid]
#14177783 - 03/24/11 06:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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There are definitely certain MC's that, either wittingly or unwittingly, attract dumbass wiggers. You'll never see a wigger listening to:
but always:
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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: AaronEruditus]
#14177787 - 03/24/11 06:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ima Trooper said: Dude, you're an idiot. 
Fuck off, "ghetto" white boy. 
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AaronEruditus said: I love music. Hip Hop happens to be my favourite.
I also like to express myself creatively. Learning an instrument takes a while, plus it costs money (classes, the instrument itself).
Classes? LOL
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AaronEruditus said: Poetry only needs a tongue and a working brain. Nothing else.
It also helps to have a unique voice. 
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AaronEruditus said: I can start kicking rhymes at the corner of the street without having to set up anything or carrying my instrument around with me.

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AaronEruditus said: It makes people laugh. It makes people nod their heads. It gets people together.
So, if I get my props from other's (including black people), how can you make fun of me for living the music I love SO MUCH? I love it more than anybody I've come in contact with, I could talk about quotables all day, and analyzing lyrics never gets old for me. I don't understand it...these statements only cause further segregation between black and white people, while I'm trying to make us come together.
Why force something that may be unnatural?
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: deCypher]
#14177793 - 03/24/11 06:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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deCypher said: You're posting on a board comprised of probably 80-90% white males between the ages of 18-24. What'd you expect? 
Some semblance of sanity, perhaps? Boy was that a mistake...
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deCypher said:
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Poid said: And aren't I older than you! 
How old are you again?
22, turned it on Feb. 9.
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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: Poid]
#14177799 - 03/24/11 06:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ha, I'm so scared. What are you going to do about it?
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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: Caine]
#14177802 - 03/24/11 06:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Caine said: There are definitely certain MC's that, either wittingly or unwittingly, attract dumbass wiggers. You'll never see a wigger listening to:
but always:
Fuck, I love Priest, that guy is so nasty!
Man, I seriously laughed out loud when I clicked on the second video and the beat started
-------------------- “Science is always discovering odd scraps of magical wisdom and making a tremendous fuss about its cleverness.” ~ Aleister Crowley “Self-importance is our greatest enemy. Think about it - what weakens us, is feeling offended by the deeds and misdeeds of our fellowmen. Our self-importance requires that we spend most of our lives offended by someone.” ~ Don Juan Matus
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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: Poid]
#14177803 - 03/24/11 06:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ah damn, you beat me by 38 days, but I'm going by mental rather than physical age. (Just kidding... )
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