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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: Sprezzatura]
    #14174986 - 03/24/11 10:20 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Dude, WTF? haha






i tried reading this thread, and was mainly distracted by the weird signatures


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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: Sprezzatura]
    #14175025 - 03/24/11 10:32 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: bbl337]
    #14175038 - 03/24/11 10:35 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I think everyone is entitled to their opinion, and my two cents is that the style of rap that is popular right now, AKA "Club Hits" is not worth listening to. I can't stand listening to the rap stations we have here, but not all rap music is shallow and made specifically for money.

I think (hope) that soon everyone who listens will realize that and will start to support real artists, not some slick production with autotune made for shakin your ass in the club.


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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: Ima Trooper]
    #14175100 - 03/24/11 10:55 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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That's how I likes my rap :awesome:

None of that money and bitches trash.



rap music that is what it is.


aside form this post and the OP, nothing in this thread is what it is...

just make-believe.







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I think everyone is entitled to their opinion, and my two cents is that the style of rap that is popular right now, AKA "Club Hits" is not worth listening to. I can't stand listening to the rap stations we have here, but not all rap music is shallow and made specifically for money.

I think (hope) that soon everyone who listens will realize that and will start to support real artists, not some slick production with autotune made for shakin your ass in the club.




but shaking your ass is fun as hell. One of my fears of aging is one day being hella old and thinking..."man, I didnt freak dance enough in my life"

FUCK THAT.


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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: Hakim0777]
    #14175116 - 03/24/11 10:59 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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That's how I likes my rap :awesome:

None of that money and bitches trash.



rap music that is what it is.


aside form this post and the OP, nothing in this thread is what it is...

just make-believe.









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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: Poid]
    #14175166 - 03/24/11 11:09 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

muthafuckers just don't understand me.


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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: akira_akuma]
    #14175182 - 03/24/11 11:12 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Muthafuckin' muthafuckers...:crankdre:


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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: Le_Canard]
    #14175592 - 03/24/11 12:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I would hesitate to call it "music". :argh:




Well then, kind sir, would you bother to explain what exactly 'music' is, you seem to have a vast knowledge of it.

I'm tired of hearing people complain about how "rap sux" and "it's not even music dood." Just because you don't understand this particular urban language does not make it any less creative/rhythmic.

To me, music is self-expression in a creative manner. Creativity, to me, is a complex thought pattern which is outside of our ordinary realm of thinking.

To say Hip Hop (that's what I like to call it, HIP HOP) is not music is just a foolish statement. I know metal-heads love to throw it around a lot.

If an artist gets my neurotransmitters cooking, then he/she IS a musician, IMO.

What I appreciate about Hip Hop is the clarity of self-expression. When artists are trying to get a certain point across, the mostly vague poetry found in rock, metal, blues, etc. does not even come close to the lyrical dexterity some MCs are able to showcase. NOT EVEN CLOSE!

I appreciate all kinds of music, from Hip Hop to Metal, from Psytrance to Classical music, from Blues to Soul; Techno, Trance, House, Easy Listening are all great too.

What I find stands out in Hip Hop is the various elemets that make up this genre.

-Battle rap, which has an element of humour in it, able to make people 'laugh out loud', literally.

There was TOOOO many to choose from, so I hope this'll work:
Big L - 98 Freestyle

-Story-telling. Skilled MCs at this certain aspect will take the listener INTO the story, making them wait patiently for every proceeding bar to know exactly how it continues.
Personally one of my favourite stories by one of the greatest storytellers:
Biggie - Suicidal Thoughts

AND

NaS - I Gave You Power

-Metaphysics. For you who enjoy philosophy and what not, there are PLENTY of MCs who will get you thinking about everyday situations in a philosophic manner.
This next song is from my favourite (and IMO the Greatest of All Time) MC:
Canibus - Poet Laureate II

-Dance. Yep, Hip Hop is great to dance to, just depends on what kind.
This particular song is STILL a club banger, depending on location:
Biggie - Hyponotize

-Politics. There's many MCs who have made it their 'mission' to use their skills and lyrical abilities to express how they feel about the Government and Conspiracy Theories.
Keep in mind, these are just that, THEORIES. I doesn't mean that the artist 100%, absolutely believes in them:
Canibus - The Grand Deception

-Braggadocio. Basically, this is bragging and boasting about how one is better than the other. When creative, one of my personal aspects of Hip Hop.
Canibus - The C-Quel

AND

Chino XL - Let 'Em Live (feat. Kool G Rap)

-Flow. There's nothing smoother than when an MC seems to just flow with, and staying on the beat, like a little boat floating across the ocean.
This piece I could've listed anywhere under battle rap, braggadicio, OR, flow:
Big Pun - Dream Shatterer

AND

Biggie - Unbelievable


Last on this list, but certainly not least:
-BEEF! Whenever two artists have a certain 'beef' with each other, and they solve it ON wax (which means through songs, rather than resorting to physical violence, well, it's just 'epic'.
NaS - Ether

AND

Canibus - 2nd Round Knockout

Just to get things straight, I don't listen to ANY mainstream music, much less mainstream "Hip Hop". What you hear in the radio and the Top 40 does NOT, IN ANY WAY, make the REAL Hip Hop any justice. It's pathetic to see what type of clowns get labeled as MCs and Rappers today.

I MC myself, so when I hear people claiming that Hip Hop "is not music" I get very defensive. It's because I KNOW how complex a thought pattern can get, and that's why I appreciate it. Two of my best friends are Hendrix fans, and both play the guitar. Personally, I love listening to Hendrix, he's amazing. However, I will NEVER be able to enjoy him as much as them, as they understand exactly how difficult it is to play like Jimi. I mean, his solos and ability on the guitar does sounds complex to me, but I will never understand it to it's full extent.

That's it for my 'rant'. Hope you guys can check some of the links out and maybe change your mind about the REAL Hip Hop.

Cheers

Love and Peace


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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: AaronEruditus]
    #14175676 - 03/24/11 12:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Oh, and Toilet Duk, I'm waiting for you to answer my question btw :smile:


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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: AaronEruditus]
    #14176201 - 03/24/11 02:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'm betting the majority of people who say "rap isn't music" have never heard good rap & only are exposed to what radio stations play / what's on tv (pfft). Hip Hop, like every genre of music is an acquired taste, in my opinion. And like most genres it takes a bit of digging to find the best it has to offer.

How can you say this isn't music?


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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: Ouija]
    #14176314 - 03/24/11 02:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I think it's hilarious that white people are into rap.


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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: Poid]
    #14176324 - 03/24/11 02:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Why would race matter?


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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: twighead]
    #14176364 - 03/24/11 03:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Because you do not experience life in the same way as they do--it would be like me trying to relate to a Muslim. Total hilarity. :osama:


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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: Poid] * 1
    #14176418 - 03/24/11 03:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Wow. Thats some racist shit right there. -5 for you buddy.


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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: Poid]
    #14176436 - 03/24/11 03:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

lol well apparently I have already rated you a 0. Nothing like a little validation. :lol:


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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: Poid]
    #14176440 - 03/24/11 03:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Because you do not experience life in the same way as they do--it would be like me trying to relate to a Muslim. Total hilarity. :osama:



:facepalm:poid....


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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #14176453 - 03/24/11 03:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

How is that racist? :picard:


None of you people grew up in the ghetto, you have no fucking idea what that kind of life is like. I grew up in a town that was at one point the murder capital of the country; I've been through lots of trying times, and I still don't listen to that garbage. This is why I find it hilarious--from my perspective, White people who never grew up in such circumstances and who listen to rap are complete fakes. This isn't just limited to white people, though, anybody who listens to that shit and who isn't from a similar background is retarded.



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fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.


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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: Poid]
    #14176459 - 03/24/11 03:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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How is that racist? :picard:




Its racist because you're assuming that all black people are raised in the ghetto slangin rocks.


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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: Poid]
    #14176477 - 03/24/11 03:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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None of you people grew up in the ghetto, you have no fucking idea what that kind of life is like. I grew up in a town that was at one point the murder capital of the country, had lived there for most of my life; I've been through lots of trying times, and I still don't listen to that garbage. This is why I find it hilarious--from my perspective, White people who never grew up in such circumstances and who listen to rap are complete fakes. This isn't just limited to white people, though, anybody who listens to that shit and who isn't from a similar background is retarded.




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Re: Interesting study I came across about rap music [Re: Ima Trooper]
    #14176481 - 03/24/11 03:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Poid said:
How is that racist? :picard:




Its racist because you're assuming that all black people are raised in the ghetto slangin rocks.


I'm not assuming this, but anybody who creates that style of music and isn't from an impoverished background is a stupid fag. That shit is retarded on so many levels, Tupac would roll over in his fucking grave.


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