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OfflineGinto
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40 mg DMT and didn't get big effects, what did I do wrong?
    #14172173 - 03/23/11 07:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

So I loaded 40 mg into my bubbler, put some weed in and DMT on top of it and more weed on that. Then I took 3 good hits. I saw 3 big trees moving around each other and I was outside. I am 130 pounds so I thought this would give me the normal effects people talk about where you get shot into DMT hyperspace and you are out of your body and talk to aliens and have big spritual revelations.

  Although I saw the trees, I still was on earth, I wasn't in another world with all the colors and such (well you're still on Earth then but it doesn't seem like it to you, so you know what I mean by not on Earth.)

Did I perhaps burn some? Should I use another smoking method such as a bong or glass pipe? (I don't have access to a freebase pipe.)

Is it possible I got ripped? (It looks like a white powder like flower or Cocaine or any other white powder.) Although it worked so I don't think that's it, just not as much as it should.

What do I do?


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Re: 40 mg DMT and didn't get big effects, what did I do wrong? [Re: Ginto]
    #14172191 - 03/23/11 07:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

you want to avoid any smoking method where you directly burn your spice (ie putting it on weed)

if u are broke, make a make-shift free base pipe (i use the little airplane bottles of hennesy, they have a little dent in the bottom that easy to break out and then some chore-boy in the stem = viola)

if u have the cash go get a vapor-genie or similar lighter opereated vaporizer and a small torch lighter...

the key is to not actually touch the fire to the spice, and to take long, slow, steady pulls off the pipe; hold it in as long as is comfortable ((avoid choking)) and then repeat this once or twice until no smoke comes out or until you can't comprehend how to do it anymore (lol).

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Re: 40 mg DMT and didn't get big effects, what did I do wrong? [Re: Ginto]
    #14172200 - 03/23/11 07:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I made my own once, and I only got mild effects as well. I'd say try to hold it in even longer. I know you might not think it will make a big difference, but it may.

I noticed the difference with nitrous, you hold it in REALLY long, and the effects are completely different than if you just hold it in for a while


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Re: 40 mg DMT and didn't get big effects, what did I do wrong? [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14172216 - 03/23/11 07:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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if u have the cash go get a vapor-genie or similar lighter opereated vaporizer and a small torch lighter...





Has anyone tried using a vapor genie for DMT? I have one but i'd rather not ruin it... i'm just curious if it works good and if DMT residue will forever be trapped inside.


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Re: 40 mg DMT and didn't get big effects, what did I do wrong? [Re: Subconscious]
    #14172220 - 03/23/11 07:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i use one regularly.. its my friends... and it will blow your fucking head off better than any other way i have smoked it (if you use a torch lighter and hit it really steadily)

the residue is actually not that hard to get out either... soak it in some warm naptha (if youve ever made DMT, you know DMT bonds to warm naptha) for a bit, pour it out and it should be pretty clean....


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Re: 40 mg DMT and didn't get big effects, what did I do wrong? [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14172232 - 03/23/11 07:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

well i preety much tried every method wasting preety much a gram but the machine is preety much the best, i hate useing steel wool but just clean all the chemicals off it (by heating it up) before use, i made a makeshift machine out of my new vapor gene which just has some steel wool inside with some screens to hold the dmt when it melts, works preety well, but still have not been able to break through :*( , just pack a shit load and take SLOW breaths, exhale your whole lungs before inhaleing


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Re: 40 mg DMT and didn't get big effects, what did I do wrong? [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14172239 - 03/23/11 07:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

the key is to not actually touch the fire to the spice, and to take long, slow, steady pulls off the pipe; hold it in as long as is comfortable ((avoid choking)) and then repeat this once or twice until no smoke comes out or until you can't comprehend how to do it anymore (lol).

good luck next time




I held the flame a little away from the weed just so the thing would melt the DMT but not burn it because that's what someone suggested to do.


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Re: 40 mg DMT and didn't get big effects, what did I do wrong? [Re: harrisonbrtn]
    #14172245 - 03/23/11 07:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

you will break through when you are ready and the time is right

if i have learned anything about DMT it's that it is the most picky, fickle, inconsistent drug on the planet..

i have taken a 30 mg hit and been blasted out into space.
i have taken a 50 mg hit of the same batch and felt next to nothing.

idk what makes the dmt experience different each time.. but just stick with it and don't try to force anything.... also, i have found if i have one null experience once day, i normally will not get a good one for the next day or so... so just be patient.


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Re: 40 mg DMT and didn't get big effects, what did I do wrong? [Re: Ginto]
    #14172437 - 03/23/11 08:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Well, my eyes where open the whole time does that change anything?


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Re: 40 mg DMT and didn't get big effects, what did I do wrong? [Re: Ginto]
    #14173436 - 03/23/11 11:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

the more dramatic visuals are always going to be closed eye in my opinion... but ive had some drastic open eye visuals on dmt as well


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Re: 40 mg DMT and didn't get big effects, what did I do wrong? [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14173834 - 03/24/11 01:28 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: 40 mg DMT and didn't get big effects, what did I do wrong? [Re: Ginto]
    #14173932 - 03/24/11 02:23 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

your not supposed to rip it like a normal bong. smoking dmt is different to smoking weed. when you smoke weed you just torch it the whole time till it rips through.


With dmt you give it like a tiny lick of flame to just ignire a part of the cone, or all of it, and then let the embers burn through the material and VAPORIZE the dmt. it doesn't matter if it takes you a few breathes to get through the whole thing. The point is to get all the dmt out of it. so just let the cone burn itself through really, and dont 'pull' the cone by sucking heavily, just let it burn its way through whatever is loaded in the bowl by its own power.


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Re: 40 mg DMT and didn't get big effects, what did I do wrong? [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14173959 - 03/24/11 02:33 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I've probably tried  a half a gram various ways and never get more than, lets say a high level shroom trip for 5 minutes then it tapers off.

I seriously don't get anywhere near blasting off like people say.


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Re: 40 mg DMT and didn't get big effects, what did I do wrong? [Re: pmb]
    #14174009 - 03/24/11 03:05 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

you musn't be smoking it properly if your not getting any effect from smoking a half gram... thats enough for 10 earth shattering doses if smoked right.


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Re: 40 mg DMT and didn't get big effects, what did I do wrong? [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14174109 - 03/24/11 03:55 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Explore the links I've provided if you're getting bad results. Scourer the forums here and at dmt-nexus.com. Maybe even don't try so hard to "blast off".

Sometimes you might be so excited that you keep trying your failed methods, but you will thank yourself if you take the time to learn more efficient methods. But like anything, practice makes perfect


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Re: 40 mg DMT and didn't get big effects, what did I do wrong? [Re: Ginto]
    #14174124 - 03/24/11 04:13 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

dmt is really not a beginners drug to smoke though, it's an art form to smoke dmt properly. especially vaping on glass, so much so that it's to the point where if you don't have someone to teach you personally how to vape the crystals properly then i wouldnt smoke them through a glass pipe, and would just go on ahead and make changa with it.


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Re: 40 mg DMT and didn't get big effects, what did I do wrong? [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14175206 - 03/24/11 11:17 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

No water in the bubbler, empty that shit out!


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Re: 40 mg DMT and didn't get big effects, what did I do wrong? [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14175492 - 03/24/11 12:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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dmt is really not a beginners drug to smoke though, it's an art form to smoke dmt properly. especially vaping on glass, so much so that it's to the point where if you don't have someone to teach you personally how to vape the crystals properly then i wouldnt smoke them through a glass pipe, and would just go on ahead and make changa with it.




+1 I Sandwich mine in little weed and smoke it out of a 10" bong, with a little bit of water in there. I disagree that a small amount of  water in the smoking device is a problem. Smoking it right is the real issue. Theses many ways to do it but it all comes down to two things imho.1. Dont burn it! Whatever you do don't do this. In my 60 or so dmt experiences so far, burning the dmt is the quickest route to a bad trip ( wich are rare on dmt so don't make it more likely for yourself ).  2. Inhale slow, steady and start from as close to empty lungs as you can get. Then HOLD IT IN. At least 10 real seconds per hit.
You have some good advice above on how to smoke it right in the posts above mine. Keep trying slightly different things til it works. Good luck :smile:


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Re: 40 mg DMT and didn't get big effects, what did I do wrong? [Re: vegantoker]
    #14177984 - 03/24/11 07:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

So should i keep the lighter an inch away from the weed or do what the guy said and get embers to burn through it.


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Re: 40 mg DMT and didn't get big effects, what did I do wrong? [Re: Ginto]
    #14178037 - 03/24/11 07:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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So should i keep the lighter an inch away from the weed or do what the guy said and get embers to burn through it.




If you're going to use that method, your best bet is to sandwich the spice between some herb, then light ONLY the top layer, then pull long and slow, so the burning herb heats the DMT enough, but not too much.

And as said before make sure you HOLD IT IN


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Re: 40 mg DMT and didn't get big effects, what did I do wrong? [Re: bholzer]
    #14178341 - 03/24/11 08:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

So next time i will use a glass bowl next time, i will let a flick of light hit the tip layer so then it burns a little and the embers burn the thing. Then I will hold it in for 15 seconds each hit, taking as big of hits as I can. That sound good?


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Re: 40 mg DMT and didn't get big effects, what did I do wrong? [Re: Ginto]
    #14178355 - 03/24/11 08:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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So next time i will use a glass bowl next time, i will let a flick of light hit the tip layer so then it burns a little and the embers burn the thing. Then I will hold it in for 15 seconds each hit, taking as big of hits as I can. That sound good?




Sounds about right. If it doesn't work, then you need to try using a homemade vape!


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Re: 40 mg DMT and didn't get big effects, what did I do wrong? [Re: Ginto]
    #14178364 - 03/24/11 08:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

15 seconds is a good length though right?


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Re: 40 mg DMT and didn't get big effects, what did I do wrong? [Re: Ginto]
    #14178597 - 03/24/11 09:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

just remember dont put the flame on it too long when you light it to start, just a tiny 1 second lick of flame to get it lit then remove the flame completely and just pull it slowly.


What i do to ensure i get a big and tastey full hit ti first time is, light the bowl and toke untill the bong is pretty much all filled with smoke, then put my hand ontop of the bong to keep the smoke in, take a fresh breath, then inhale the full chamber of smoke and continue smoking, so this way i get a megga hit to start and can work on gettin in my 2nd and 3rd hits alot faster.


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Re: 40 mg DMT and didn't get big effects, what did I do wrong? [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14178909 - 03/24/11 09:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

scratch that plan. get a freebase(meth) pipe, like this . if you can get dmt, you can get a meth pipe. load your deemsters through the hole. I recommend getting a friend to light it for you and to hold the pipe. Start out with tip of the flame about 2 inches below the bubble, you will see the spice start to melt, now bring the flame a little closer, maybe 1 inch between the tip and the pipe, or if it took a long time to melt (which means the glass conducts heat slower due to thickness and type of glass, mine is pyrex so i have it closer) you could even let the flame touch the pipe as long as you start hitting it the moment you do that. now as far as hitting, the most sure fire way to get blasted off into dmt hyperspace is to take average tokin hits, and exhale after 1 or 2 second, quickly, and take another hit right away. make sure to tell your friend to make you hit it until your gone, because you will want to stop hitting it when you start to drift away, but you will be able to get 1-1.5 more hits in and that will ensure that you go all the way. DMT is the only drug where i would recommend going all the way every time.


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Re: 40 mg DMT and didn't get big effects, what did I do wrong? [Re: tay_ste_5000]
    #14179047 - 03/24/11 10:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

No, don't do this. I stated before vaping on glass is very difficult. You will end up just wasting your spice if you vape it not knowing how to do it properly. it takes alot of co-ordination and practice to be able to do it right.


The aim is to VAPORIZE not INCINERATE the dmt. if you just leave the flame on the DMT it will get too hot and INCINERATE the dmt, which will mean it wont get into your lungs.


Plus burned dmt is really harsh on the lungs and will make you feel like your respiratory system has been raped.


i guess you could try to learn to vape on glass if you have alot of it to spare, but dmt is generally pretty rare stuff and hard to come by stuff, so its best not to waste it.





If your starting out, making changa, or sandwiching the dmt inbetween some plant material is the best way to go.


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Re: 40 mg DMT and didn't get big effects, what did I do wrong? [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14179110 - 03/24/11 10:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Hennessy min bottle - $5
Chore boy - $1

easiest way in the world to smoke DMT without fucking up - priceless



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Re: 40 mg DMT and didn't get big effects, what did I do wrong? [Re: redrum187]
    #14324497 - 04/20/11 06:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

So I tripped again, this time I saw a forest and I was walking into the forest and then blacked out. It was rather dreamlike and unreal feeling though. Did I break through? Although it was pretty crazy I was expecting more. What do you guys think?


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Re: 40 mg DMT and didn't get big effects, what did I do wrong? [Re: Ginto]
    #14324651 - 04/20/11 07:33 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: 40 mg DMT and didn't get big effects, what did I do wrong? [Re: Ginto]
    #14324721 - 04/20/11 07:49 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

were you still in your body?


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