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Shot to Death for Nothing, Family Says
#14171446 - 03/23/11 05:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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http://www.courthousenews.com/2011/03/21/35070.htm
Shot to Death for Nothing, Family Says By JONNY BONNER
SALT LAKE CITY (CN) - Police officers responded to a family's complaint that their diabetic son may have been in danger from driving without taking his medicine by running him off the road into an interstate highway median and shooting him to death, the family says. Joey Tucker's father, Perry Tucker, and his fiancée Brieanne Matson say they were "concerned about his health" when they called Salt Lake City Police. Joey Tucker had not taken his diabetes medication and "had possibly taken a sleeping pill," according to the federal complaint. The family claims a Highway Patrol trooper rammed Tucker's pickup into a concrete barrier as Tucker drove on Interstate 80, then Salt Lake Police Officer Louis "Law" Jones shot him to death while he "was simply sitting," all of which was recorded on officers' dashboard cameras. "Perry Tucker was concerned that his son had not taken his medication for diabetes and had possibly taken a sleeping pill" and called police, the complaint states. "Accordingly, Brieanne contacted the police to assist in locating Joey because the family was concerned about his health." Both callers told police that Tucker was unarmed and had not been drinking alcohol. Joey Tucker visited his fiancée at her workplace after she and Tucker's father made the calls, and police followed him as he left the business. Officers Jones and Lisa Pascaldo and Highway Patrol Trooper Lawrence Hopper trailed Tucker on city streets and the freeway, according to the complaint. Hopper "attempted a pit maneuver while Joey was traveling below the speed limit," the complaint states. A pit maneuver involves forcing a pursued vehicle to turn sideways to its direction of travel, immobilizing it. Hopper's first attempt was unsuccessful, but on his second try he made Joey Tucker's vehicle "spin and collide with a cement barrier as he was traveling on I-80," the complaint states. "Immediately after Joey's vehicle came to a stop with the vehicle in reverse with Joey sitting there with his hands on the steering wheel surrounded by Officer Jones, Officer Pascadlo, and Trooper Hopper, Officer Jones fired three shots, killing Joey," the complaint states. "Joey was surrounded and there was nowhere for him to go. According to the dash cam video, it did not show Joey accelerating or putting his vehicle in drive to move his vehicle in an area toward the officers. At no time did any of the other officers or Trooper Hopper shoot out Joey's tires or spike the tires." The complaint states: "Immediately after hearing Officer Jones discharge his gun in a careless, reckless manner, the only thing you can hear on the dash cam video was Trooper Hopper exclaiming, 'Oh, no! Oh, shit!' "After the use of unreasonable excessive deadly force, Officer Jones was not terminated or reprimanded by Salt Lake City Corporation. ... "The dash cam videos reveal that Joey did not take any action, make any threats, or do anything to cause any immediate or [im]minent threat of harm to any of the officers. Joey was simply sitting in his vehicle." The family seeks punitive damages for wrongful death, loss of consortium and civil rights violations, and medical and funeral expenses. They are represented by George Waddoups with Robert J. Debry & Associates.
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Re: Shot to Death for Nothing, Family Says [Re: amilibertine]
#14171489 - 03/23/11 05:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's some fucking bullshit, and the police department does nothing to the officer? He should be tried for murder.
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Re: Shot to Death for Nothing, Family Says [Re: Smitington]
#14171619 - 03/23/11 05:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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someone needs to kill that cop.
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Re: Shot to Death for Nothing, Family Says [Re: Ajaxx]
#14171693 - 03/23/11 05:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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The more this kind of thing happens the more that "acquiescent America" will wake up and realize that the police are not there to help you
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Re: Shot to Death for Nothing, Family Says [Re: Smitington]
#14171726 - 03/23/11 06:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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thats just fucked up. cops are supposed to protect and serve. all ive been hearing about is law enforcement abusing their power for their own personal gain or just by doing shit that they think they can get away with. the revolution is coming. Ill see you guys on the front lines.
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Re: Shot to Death for Nothing, Family Says [Re: crokms] 4
#14171951 - 03/23/11 06:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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It just kills me that this piece of shit is not being charged with ANY crime, but if the situation was reversed and the cop was killed they would make sure the killer never got out of prison.
Some major filmmaker needs do a documentary for theaters in the US about the Blue Code of Silence. I bet most Americans have no idea that a lot of police departments are just legal criminal gangs killing innocent people and stealing as much property and wealth as they can get their hands on while lying in court or framing innocent people to get a conviction.
Fucking pathetic pieces of shit.
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Re: Shot to Death for Nothing, Family Says [Re: amilibertine]
#14172062 - 03/23/11 07:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Alright I want to see this video now. I bet they will not realese it. That is fucking bad and I feel for his family.
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Re: Shot to Death for Nothing, Family Says [Re: amilibertine]
#14172089 - 03/23/11 07:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah, I read this earlier this afternoon. What really grinds my gears is the cops involved didn't suffer any consequence. The assholes probably laughed about it afterwards. Fucking pigs have too much power and leeway.
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Re: Shot to Death for Nothing, Family Says [Re: Le_Canard]
#14172150 - 03/23/11 07:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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If this is not the time for a fucking revolution then there never will be.
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Re: Shot to Death for Nothing, Family Says [Re: drjustice]
#14172321 - 03/23/11 07:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Police officers who commit serious crimes like this should be tried, and receive a dramatically increased sentence.
Unfortunately the way things go now they are generally not charged at all, even if they committed a rape/murder.
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Re: Shot to Death for Nothing, Family Says [Re: Heffy]
#14172353 - 03/23/11 08:07 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
The complaint states: "Immediately after hearing Officer Jones discharge his gun in a careless, reckless manner, the only thing you can hear on the dash cam video was Trooper Hopper exclaiming, 'Oh, no! Oh, shit!'
Is that not an admission of guilt of what?
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Re: Shot to Death for Nothing, Family Says [Re: amilibertine]
#14172400 - 03/23/11 08:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Send this pig to prison and then let someone murder him.
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Re: Shot to Death for Nothing, Family Says [Re: baraka]
#14172534 - 03/23/11 08:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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This is so sad...
There must be more to the story though, how could no one be held accountable for this man's death? Surely the family won't keep quiet about it.
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Re: Shot to Death for Nothing, Family Says [Re: Capers]
#14172572 - 03/23/11 08:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Here's another article with more details:
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705322062/Did-blood-sugar-lead-to-tragedy.html
Looks like the police are covering it up pretty well. I guess that means they won't be releasing the tape because it would probably contradict their story.
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Re: Shot to Death for Nothing, Family Says [Re: amilibertine]
#14172625 - 03/23/11 09:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Would blue lighting the family's son, pulling him over, and asking him about which medication he had taken not have sufficed? Seriously, what the fuck had those cops smoked that day?
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Re: Shot to Death for Nothing, Family Says [Re: destructo_low] 1
#14172644 - 03/23/11 09:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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They were on the worst drug ever - too much power.
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Re: Shot to Death for Nothing, Family Says [Re: destructo_low]
#14172662 - 03/23/11 09:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Peice of shit pig murderers...I wish death to that cop!!!
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Okay, what the cop did was TOTALLY WRONG! But, I'm sure the cop tried to pull the kid over first, why didn't the kid just stop? I doubt he would have got in any trouble.
This story is quite vague.
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Re: Shot to Death for Nothing, Family Says [Re: gref]
#14172896 - 03/23/11 09:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Fuck the police. They are worthless pieces of shit. I hope the dude that shot the kid dies a horrible, slow death. That shits just fucked
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Re: Shot to Death for Nothing, Family Says [Re: Divinity]
#14172944 - 03/23/11 10:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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This is two years old. Not saying it's not fucked up, but what the hell.
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Re: Shot to Death for Nothing, Family Says [Re: Divinity]
#14172965 - 03/23/11 10:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Divinity said: Fuck the police. They are worthless pieces of shit. I hope the dude that shot the kid dies a horrible, slow death. That shits just fucked
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Re: Shot to Death for Nothing, Family Says [Re: plustax]
#14173090 - 03/23/11 10:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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plustax said: This is two years old. Not saying it's not fucked up, but what the hell.
The story I posted was date Monday, March 21, 2011
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Re: Shot to Death for Nothing, Family Says [Re: amilibertine]
#14173306 - 03/23/11 11:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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louis "law"?
what a shitty nickname
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Re: Shot to Death for Nothing, Family Says [Re: amilibertine]
#14173734 - 03/24/11 12:48 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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amilibertine said:
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plustax said: This is two years old. Not saying it's not fucked up, but what the hell.
The story I posted was date Monday, March 21, 2011 
That is why I am so confused.
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Re: Shot to Death for Nothing, Family Says [Re: plustax]
#14173772 - 03/24/11 01:03 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
plustax said:
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amilibertine said:
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plustax said: This is two years old. Not saying it's not fucked up, but what the hell.
The story I posted was date Monday, March 21, 2011 
That is why I am so confused.
Ahhh guys......what..year is it?
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Re: Shot to Death for Nothing, Family Says [Re: plustax]
#14174213 - 03/24/11 05:01 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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gref said: Okay, what the cop did was TOTALLY WRONG! But, I'm sure the cop tried to pull the kid over first, why didn't the kid just stop? I doubt he would have got in any trouble.
This story is quite vague.
did you read the story? he was sitting in his NOT moving car, NOT making any threats to the cops before he was shot, it doesn't make a bit of difference if he tried pulling the kid over first. there was no threat to life and they knew he was unarmed.
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Re: Shot to Death for Nothing, Family Says [Re: mexicanjewlucas]
#14174238 - 03/24/11 05:19 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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The story posted in the OP is from March.
The other story about the same incident was from Aug 2009.
The OP's post details the cops somewhat response to the family. (The legal system takes a while) Apparently a video was released or at least shown to the family. It says the police responded to the complaint whereas the article from 09 said the police had no comment.
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Re: Shot to Death for Nothing, Family Says [Re: gref]
#14174411 - 03/24/11 07:05 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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> But, I'm sure the cop tried to pull the kid over first, why didn't the kid just stop?
Hyperglycemia, which happens when a diabetic has high blood sugar (low insulin levels), can lead to psychosis before the victim goes into a coma. During the psychotic episode, the victim is completely out of their mind, having no idea who they are, where they are, what they are doing, or any other coherent thoughts.
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Who's Killing WHO? [Re: plustax] 1
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here's a statistaically unavoidable fact..
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2006/09/71743
you have the same chance statistically speaking of getting shot by a cop and getting poisined by carbon monoxide.............and people are buying carbon monoxide detectors to protect their familes from accidental death.. They should be worrying the same about the cops killing thier kids.............or us............everybody we are all the blacks in chicago in the 80's.............
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Re: Shot to Death for Nothing, Family Says [Re: MungoFungo]
#14175171 - 03/24/11 11:10 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I never heard the story before. I feel bad for that kids family. And from the sounds of it that cop should be facing murder charges.
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Re: Shot to Death for Nothing, Family Says [Re: lil_demented]
#14176300 - 03/24/11 02:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I wish there was a civilian force whose duty it is to put cops in there place. Cops can get away with almost anything. You can watch them use excessive force over and over again with no punishment.
Pig in Chicago had a woman in holding. She was upset and saying stuff. He turns off the camera. When he turns it back on she's laying in a pool of blood. They show a picture afterwards with her face more swollen then I've ever seen a face. The pig gets suspended. One year later he is accepted back and given the pay he missed for that year of suspension. I also have to say the same pig put a gun to a small child's head after he wouldn't stop riding his scooter.
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Re: Shot to Death for Nothing, Family Says [Re: gref]
#14176933 - 03/24/11 04:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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gref said: Okay, what the cop did was TOTALLY WRONG! But, I'm sure the cop tried to pull the kid over first, why didn't the kid just stop? I doubt he would have got in any trouble.
This story is quite vague.
The "oh shit, oh no" part tends to move towards "my finger was itchy". The continually talk about the sleeping pill thing and bad blood sugar. So not only was he suppressed by sleeping pills but was not thinking clearly because of body chemistry. Suicidal in other words. And the chase was at no more than 30 mph. This kid was fucked up! Im sure he tried to pull away in his sleepy drunkeness and the cop was a fuck hole and played "hero". "I was looking out for my fellow officers your honor". BULLLLL SHITTTT! If someone tries to take off they are supposed to get back in their cars and pursue not resolve with deadly force.
Toiletduk said it best...TOO MUCH POWER! He is getting paid leave for christs sake for killing someone! There is not a cop that I would help from dying. I would go more like this...
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Re: Shot to Death for Nothing, Family Says [Re: crokms]
#14177976 - 03/24/11 07:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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crokms said: thats just fucked up. cops are supposed to protect and serve. all ive been hearing about is law enforcement abusing their power for their own personal gain or just by doing shit that they think they can get away with. the revolution is coming. Ill see you guys on the front lines. 
A cops job is to enforce laws. The "protect and serve" bit is just a funny little slogan.
Either way, fucked up. That guy is a murdering scumbag.
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Re: Shot to Death for Nothing, Family Says [Re: Seuss]
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Seuss said: > But, I'm sure the cop tried to pull the kid over first, why didn't the kid just stop?
Hyperglycemia, which happens when a diabetic has high blood sugar (low insulin levels), can lead to psychosis before the victim goes into a coma. During the psychotic episode, the victim is completely out of their mind, having no idea who they are, where they are, what they are doing, or any other coherent thoughts.
i'm type 1 diabetic. i have had hallucinations due to low BSL, i thought the paramedics were all aliens (one of the most vivid hallucenations i've ever had). i was trying to fight them thinking i was being abducted by aliens, once at hospital i don't remmember this part but i kicked a nurse in the head as she was putting a catheter in me and broke her jaw. then slipped into a diabetic coma for 3 days.
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Re: Shot to Death for Nothing, Family Says [Re: Subconscious]
#14178020 - 03/24/11 07:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Horrible story, but how does this relate to drugs, or the war on them?
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Re: Shot to Death for Nothing, Family Says [Re: GrimTroll]
#14179662 - 03/25/11 12:16 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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GrimTroll said: Horrible story, but how does this relate to drugs, or the war on them?
1: The man who was killed didn't take his insulin and was driving around (if you don't know the symptoms of low blood sugar read the entire thread) so his family called the police to help.
2. The police obviously did not understand what low blood sugar can do to a person.
3. The war on drugs has caused police to go from a somewhat respectable entity to vicious killers of innocent people (like this man). These types of killings are happening more and more frequently.
4. A news article posted in this forum doesn't need to be related to drugs or the drug war. It only needs to be of interest to the members of the shroomery, which it obviously is.
5. I just realized this post seems a bit dickish and condesending, I promise that's not how I meant it...it's just that I get angry when thinking about stories like this.
The PD in the city I grew up in tried to frame my younger brother (who has a learning disability among other social issues) for arson and murder because he was partying at a house that burned down and the cops had no leads so they took advantage of the fact that my brother is slow. He was an adult. He didn't understand his rights or that he could remain silent or have a lawyer present during questioning. They interrogated him for 12 hours straight with no food, water, bathroom, or contact with anyone. They tried to get him to give a false confession by lying to him about evidence and threatening him with life in prison if he didn't confess. They knew that he had been drinking and taking valium. Thankfully he was smart enough to not give them what they wanted that first day of questioning. When he finally got his phone call and spoke to my mother he learned his rights from her and refused to answer any more questions and told them he was leaving (they never arrested him and as a result of that they never read him his miranda rights) the police station. After that they continued to harass and threaten my family for the next year or so.
Problem was, they had zero evidence against my brother. The people who died were a mother and one her sons. Her other son was there that night with my brother and some of their other friends. The final person there was a crack dealer who was the mom's dealer. Word on the street (I don't know if this is true) was that the mother owed this guy a considerable amount of money.
The local media painted the mother as this wonderful person who died a tragic death. For some reason her criminal record full of drug charges, theft, forgery, and so forth was not important. Nor was the fact that she was letting about 8 underage(15-19) teenagers getting drunk on a Monday (school in the morning) while she smoked crack in the other room.
After a while they stopped fucking with us as the case grew cold. I almost lost my baby brother to prison because of these lying cocksuckers and their total ineptitude at solving a REAL crime. If it wasn't for the citizens in town I bet most would never be solved.
Sorry guys, /rant
tl;dr - cops are lying assholes who sometimes/oftentimes frame people to get a conviction and give the local media something to write about.
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Re: Shot to Death for Nothing, Family Says [Re: Le_Canard]
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ToiletDuk said: They were on the worst drug ever - too much power.
Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.
If I were his father, I would release the story as publicly as possible. See if the matter would be dealt with, and then ensure that it was. Even if it meant taking matters into my own hands....
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Re: Shot to Death for Nothing, Family Says [Re: ChronicCluster]
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I'm confused.
1. Concerned parents call police asking for help because son has not taken diabetes medication and is under the influence of sleeping medication.
2. Cops ram said son's vehicle into cement barrier.
3. Cop shoots and kills still, unarmed boy once his vehicle has stopped.
How is this not murder????? Were all weak for putting up with this bullshit. We need to support and encourage on another to fight. Dont pay taxes which are illegal. We should be gathering by the mass and knocking down the DEA headquarters. I won't get too off topic but this story is a prime example of what our country has become.
Ourselves and our children will be imprisoned for cannabis(material used to write the declaration of independence) while the governments military-like police can murder our children and not even be told that they're wrong. All while our government wages war on one country after another, forcing our so-called democratic government on other nations, killing and raping innocent children in the process.
Folks we are blind to liberty if we don't act.
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