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Re: Wrong [Re: learningtofly]
    #14169387 - 03/23/11 11:12 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Still waiting... :waits:

Are you a man or a penguin?


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Re: Wrong [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14169397 - 03/23/11 11:14 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

this is a pretty stupid argument... i mean debate... no wait :confused:


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Re: Wrong [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #14169403 - 03/23/11 11:15 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Maybe he's a manguin? Or a penguan? :grin:



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It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Wrong [Re: Icelander]
    #14169672 - 03/23/11 12:14 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Sometimes one needs courts to decide if one is wrong or right.
The super hyper supreme court is not invented yet, so why should I admit I could be wrong only if others think so and have no evidence ? :lol:


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Re: Wrong [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #14169681 - 03/23/11 12:16 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks for the next example of complete denial. :thumbup:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

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Re: Wrong [Re: Icelander]
    #14169713 - 03/23/11 12:23 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I generally don't believe in the concept of right and wrong.

If all of our knowledge and science is based on Empirical Evidence, then we don't know for sure it's actually right.

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Re: Wrong [Re: The Giant Mole]
    #14169737 - 03/23/11 12:29 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Get real.  I love this shit.  If you say, using common math, that 2+2= 9  then you're wrong.  You can't even honestly address the OP which is exactly what I'm pointing out here.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
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Re: Wrong [Re: Icelander]
    #14169765 - 03/23/11 12:35 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Denial of what ? That it makes more sense in survival to be right than to be wrong ?


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

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Re: Wrong [Re: Icelander]
    #14169771 - 03/23/11 12:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I'm not trying to be hostile, I'm just saying that math was based on Empirical Evidence, which is based on our observations. Saying all of our observations are correct is a tad egocentric.

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Re: Wrong [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #14169774 - 03/23/11 12:37 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

It doesn't always make more sense and especially in the long run.  I can't believe you really can't see that.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
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Re: Wrong [Re: The Giant Mole]
    #14169780 - 03/23/11 12:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

The Giant Mole said:
I'm not trying to be hostile, I'm just saying that math was based on Empirical Evidence, which is based on our observations. Saying all of our observations are correct is a tad egocentric.





Keep trying to avoid the topic. :thumbup:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Wrong [Re: Icelander]
    #14169869 - 03/23/11 12:54 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Icelander said:
It doesn't always make more sense and especially in the long run.  I can't believe you really can't see that.



Maybe I'm playing some role here...
But in general I really like to get ripped my false believes away from me...from whatever or whoever it might be. I personally have problems to get rid of them, because I have no insight into them, only through personal experience, that's why I search that confrontation in general.
That what I said is only, as long as nobody can really proof me wrong, then I don't see any purpose to admit that I am :wink:


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

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Re: Wrong [Re: The Giant Mole]
    #14169882 - 03/23/11 12:55 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

As for the topic, I do believe people have problems admitting when they are in the wrong.

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Re: Wrong [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #14169900 - 03/23/11 12:58 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

BlueCoyote said:
Quote:

Icelander said:
It doesn't always make more sense and especially in the long run.  I can't believe you really can't see that.



Maybe I'm playing some role here...
But in general I really like to get ripped my false believes away from me...from whatever or whoever it might be. I personally have problems to get rid of them, because I have no insight into them, only through personal experience, that's why I search that confrontation in general.


That what I said is only, as long as nobody can really proof me wrong, then I don't see any purpose to admit that I am :wink:



This has squat to do with my OP


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Wrong [Re: Icelander]
    #14169951 - 03/23/11 01:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

So who proves who is wrong anyways.
It's the surrounding environment, as represented through our local laws and governments. They are different and influenced by the local givens. In the same way, but the other direction it is tried to find a 'general law' like U.S.A. or Europe and make supreme laws. That's the way on our planet, who decides what's right or wrong.
So that's not squat my dear :heart:


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Re: Wrong [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #14169987 - 03/23/11 01:07 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

One often knows when they are wrong but not always, duh.  No one else has to be right for someone to be wrong and know it.  Your so called points have what to do with the fact that at times we know we are incorrect and cannot admit to it?


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
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Re: Wrong [Re: Icelander]
    #14170035 - 03/23/11 01:13 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Is it really so ? Why would one admit that one is incorrect if there is at least a little doubt left ?
Then one just is inhonest to oneself and lies to oneself, making no ground for further investigations.
Self corruption.


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

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Re: Wrong [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #14170471 - 03/23/11 02:25 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Is it really so?

Yes, it's really so.

But I was mistaken to think you could see it.:lol:


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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Re: Wrong [Re: Icelander]
    #14170476 - 03/23/11 02:27 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Yah, normaly I am blind to lies. :shrug:


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

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Re: Wrong [Re: BlueCoyote]
    #14170481 - 03/23/11 02:28 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

The ones you tell yourself. You're off the hook.


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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
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