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OrgoneConclusion
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Still waiting...
Are you a man or a penguin?
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Edited by OrgoneConclusion (03/23/11 11:13 AM)
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quinn
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this is a pretty stupid argument... i mean debate... no wait
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Poid
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Maybe he's a manguin? Or a penguan? 
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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BlueCoyote
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Sometimes one needs courts to decide if one is wrong or right. The super hyper supreme court is not invented yet, so why should I admit I could be wrong only if others think so and have no evidence ?
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Icelander
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Thanks for the next example of complete denial.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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The Giant Mole
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I generally don't believe in the concept of right and wrong.
If all of our knowledge and science is based on Empirical Evidence, then we don't know for sure it's actually right.
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Icelander
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Get real. I love this shit. If you say, using common math, that 2+2= 9 then you're wrong. You can't even honestly address the OP which is exactly what I'm pointing out here.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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BlueCoyote
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Denial of what ? That it makes more sense in survival to be right than to be wrong ?
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The Giant Mole
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I'm not trying to be hostile, I'm just saying that math was based on Empirical Evidence, which is based on our observations. Saying all of our observations are correct is a tad egocentric.
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Icelander
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It doesn't always make more sense and especially in the long run. I can't believe you really can't see that.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Icelander
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Quote:
The Giant Mole said: I'm not trying to be hostile, I'm just saying that math was based on Empirical Evidence, which is based on our observations. Saying all of our observations are correct is a tad egocentric.
Keep trying to avoid the topic.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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BlueCoyote
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Quote:
Icelander said: It doesn't always make more sense and especially in the long run. I can't believe you really can't see that.
Maybe I'm playing some role here... But in general I really like to get ripped my false believes away from me...from whatever or whoever it might be. I personally have problems to get rid of them, because I have no insight into them, only through personal experience, that's why I search that confrontation in general. That what I said is only, as long as nobody can really proof me wrong, then I don't see any purpose to admit that I am
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The Giant Mole
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As for the topic, I do believe people have problems admitting when they are in the wrong.
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Icelander
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Quote:
BlueCoyote said:
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Icelander said: It doesn't always make more sense and especially in the long run. I can't believe you really can't see that.
Maybe I'm playing some role here... But in general I really like to get ripped my false believes away from me...from whatever or whoever it might be. I personally have problems to get rid of them, because I have no insight into them, only through personal experience, that's why I search that confrontation in general.
That what I said is only, as long as nobody can really proof me wrong, then I don't see any purpose to admit that I am 
This has squat to do with my OP
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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BlueCoyote
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So who proves who is wrong anyways. It's the surrounding environment, as represented through our local laws and governments. They are different and influenced by the local givens. In the same way, but the other direction it is tried to find a 'general law' like U.S.A. or Europe and make supreme laws. That's the way on our planet, who decides what's right or wrong. So that's not squat my dear
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Icelander
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One often knows when they are wrong but not always, duh. No one else has to be right for someone to be wrong and know it. Your so called points have what to do with the fact that at times we know we are incorrect and cannot admit to it?
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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BlueCoyote
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Is it really so ? Why would one admit that one is incorrect if there is at least a little doubt left ? Then one just is inhonest to oneself and lies to oneself, making no ground for further investigations. Self corruption.
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Icelander
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Is it really so?
Yes, it's really so.
But I was mistaken to think you could see it.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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BlueCoyote
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Yah, normaly I am blind to lies.
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Icelander
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The ones you tell yourself. You're off the hook.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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