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VecAndSally
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All this rain I rekon I'll take the fam out for a stroll next week.
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lord of the gnomes
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Re: South Australia 2011 inactives [Re: VecAndSally]
#14888169 - 08/07/11 11:33 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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found 5 today most of them were pins only picked 1, got some pics but ill put them up later maybe, still got some spots pinning i think so ill check them at the end of the week with my mate
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Humanoid
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Are there mushrooms that grow all year round in Adelaide or is it only during the winter months?
And what are the mushrooms I should look out for if I go out hunting? Aside from the ones gnome described before and death caps, I'm pretty sure I know not to eat an entirely white mushroom.
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Edited by Humanoid (08/08/11 02:18 AM)
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LeviathanBaphomet
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Re: South Australia 2011 inactives [Re: Humanoid]
#14888550 - 08/08/11 02:26 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Humanoid said: Are there mushrooms that grow all year round in Adelaide or is it only during the winter months?
And what are the mushrooms I should look out for if I go out hunting
The only active mushrooms in SA are Psilocybe subaeruginosa (subs), they only grow during the coldest parts on winter. Currently it is the end of this years 'season' but they can still be out in very small numbers.
The best thing to do is get some research ready for next year, read up and look at pictures so you know exactly what you need to look for. Reading previous years threads contains some great information if you read carefully; yes they are quite a long read but it is worth it.
Also, wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psilocybe_subaeruginosa
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Humanoid
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I see, thanks for that.
Going to do a fair deal of research into them and I plan on going hunting for them next year up in the hills.
I've also gotten over my irrational fear of picking a galerina marginata and eating it. It seems that's the only mushroom I'm going to have to worry about lol.
If I see a Death Cap I'm going to kill it >:D
And now I know that they have a little ring on the stipe, so that'll be easy to avoid too.
Is there a great difference in the spore prints, like how the galerina marginata is brown, is the sub one purple or purpley brown?
Also anyone with any experience in growing subs?
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Edited by Humanoid (08/08/11 02:30 AM)
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Smokeandtoke
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Re: South Australia 2011 inactives [Re: Humanoid]
#14888642 - 08/08/11 03:14 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Humanoid said: I see, thanks for that.
Going to do a fair deal of research into them and I plan on going hunting for them next year up in the hills.
I've also gotten over my irrational fear of picking a galerina marginata and eating it. It seems that's the only mushroom I'm going to have to worry about lol.
If I see a Death Cap I'm going to kill it >:D
And now I know that they have a little ring on the stipe, so that'll be easy to avoid too.
Is there a great difference in the spore prints, like how the galerina marginata is brown, is the sub one purple or purpley brown?
Also anyone with any experience in growing subs?
I think you're a bit mixed up, "death caps" I'm pretty sure are actually Amanita phalloides, they only came into adelaide on some wood shipped over and was introduced primarily (accidentally) into the Urrbrae Conservatorium and has been minimal spread since, I spent almost two years trying to find a species to photograph and still no luck. This is actually a really imp[oratant example of why it is VITAL to use the binomial names when referring to these things.
As far as growing....I had a great year had just under a thousand sprout in my veg garden, part of it i've put down to a bit of luck, otherwise there's heaps of homemade TEK's out there that work well.
As far as indoor growing.... don't waste your time, learn to ID, then learn to pick, then learn to grow outdoor cultivations, then learn about spore prints and from there maybe have a go at indoor growing. Even then i'd reccomend growing something different from P. sub simply because if you do a quick search on here the results are an absoloute failure, i thought i was experienced to follow through with an indoor grow this year and almost killed myself with a bad batch.... so start small. 
Peace.
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Humanoid
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Re: South Australia 2011 inactives [Re: Smokeandtoke]
#14888672 - 08/08/11 03:34 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's really an interesting thing on the death caps, I was sure they grew somewhere here in aus.
I think that I’ll start with just learning how to pick and I’ll start going out next year and I’ll look for subs, but I think I’ll try indoor growing as soon as I can. I’m really keen on the idea of growing little flushes for my own personal use. If I start though I won’t tell anyone, I’ve mentioned the prospect to a couple friends but if I did start, I would never tell anyone. I’ve heard this kind of shit can come back on you and bite you in the ass.
I think in a couple weeks I'll talk to those friends again and give them my completely negative view of growing , just to make em forget about it when the time does come.
I've mentioned that I have an irrational fear of the mushrooms being bad, but it seems there are very few poisonous shrooms in SA, and since I'm only going to be looking for subs it kind of narrows it down to the kind I have to avoid.
Also do you guys get a spore print for every single one of the mushrooms you intend to consume? Or do you just get a couple out of, say ten and the rest you just ID using your knowledge? Oh and the bluing on the stem of course.
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Smokeandtoke
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Re: South Australia 2011 inactives [Re: Humanoid]
#14888714 - 08/08/11 04:21 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Man....did you not see that part where i mentioned i almost killed myself from a novice attempt at an indoor cultivation? this is some serious shit.
I don't know how to get this across as simple as possible, but when you were in like 8 or 9th grade science and sometimes the teacher for a little experiment would get petri dishes put a small amount of saliva on them and incubate them for a week and then you'd study the different things that have grown? but remember the golden rule was always that you weren't allowed to open then after incubation? Well there's a reason for that...you have just cultivated bacteria, molds and all sorts of nasties that potentially can kill you.
If you can't ID or correctly name toxic mushrooms how are you going to cultivate? Not having a go I just don't think it's anything anyone should really be thinking about at such an early stage. :S
Look up Mycotoxicosis on the old googler machine, then have a look at this,
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/532922
that's basically what happened to me. It sucks hard, it's constantly painful and requires i take extra drugs to fight it off which isn't something I personally enjoy doing.
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Humanoid
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Re: South Australia 2011 inactives [Re: Smokeandtoke]
#14888723 - 08/08/11 04:28 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah I did read that part, I wasn't sure what to make of it
Man it will take at least 4 years before I will even be able to do an inside grow, it's simply impossible at the moment. Still, I never even considered the risks of infection and stuff.
I'm looking into that now link now, nasty shit, and I guarantee I have absolutely no plans of cultivating at all for a long time, it's just something that's in the back of my head for when I get my own place and stuff.
It's impossible at the moment man, and I'm sorry if I seemed disrespectful there, I did read that part I just wasn't sure what to say.
In the coming year I'll learn as much as I can about picking, just seems I'm doing it all on my own because I have no bros to go out picking with and therefore learning to run before learning to walk seems hard, meaning the first time I do go out picking I'll be out there, entirely based on theoretical knowledge.
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Smokeandtoke
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Re: South Australia 2011 inactives [Re: Humanoid]
#14888727 - 08/08/11 04:33 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nahhh no disrespect mate :P I just wouldn't want anyone to go through what I've been through lately, and I have a very mild case, it could have gotten worse.
I find picking is like practicing martial arts, you can practice and practice but the best training is most likely gonna be when you get jumped on the street and are put into that situation head first.
I wasted a whole year "studying" fungi mainly active species throughout the states and i was extremely stressed when i went picking until one day i just stumbled across a patch and instantly i knew they were good. These were my first active finds.
Have you found actives ever?
Edited by Smokeandtoke (08/08/11 04:35 AM)
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Humanoid
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Re: South Australia 2011 inactives [Re: Smokeandtoke]
#14888731 - 08/08/11 04:36 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well I'm sure I've seen an active patch but I bet I was like six or eight or something
To me they were just mushrooms, and eating them, poisonous or not, was bad.
Good description there, I guess it is about going in there but the thought really nags me.
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lord of the gnomes
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Re: South Australia 2011 inactives [Re: Humanoid]
#14888774 - 08/08/11 05:05 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Smokeandtoke said:
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Humanoid said: I see, thanks for that.
Going to do a fair deal of research into them and I plan on going hunting for them next year up in the hills.
I've also gotten over my irrational fear of picking a galerina marginata and eating it. It seems that's the only mushroom I'm going to have to worry about lol.
If I see a Death Cap I'm going to kill it >:D
And now I know that they have a little ring on the stipe, so that'll be easy to avoid too.
Is there a great difference in the spore prints, like how the galerina marginata is brown, is the sub one purple or purpley brown?
Also anyone with any experience in growing subs?
I think you're a bit mixed up, "death caps" I'm pretty sure are actually Amanita phalloides, they only came into adelaide on some wood shipped over and was introduced primarily (accidentally) into the Urrbrae Conservatorium and has been minimal spread since, I spent almost two years trying to find a species to photograph and still no luck. This is actually a really imp[oratant example of why it is VITAL to use the binomial names when referring to these things
you said it buddy i wouldnt be stressing about amanita phalloides man sightings here are rare and the only real documentation of this species growing here was in urbrae back in 2008 like smokeandtoke said Quote:
Humanoid said: Well I'm sure I've seen an active patch but I bet I was like six or eight or something
To me they were just mushrooms, and eating them, poisonous or not, was bad.
Good description there, I guess it is about going in there but the thought really nags me.
mmm hate to say it but i doubt you've waled past a patch, alot of people reckon this. my best advice to you is to do alot of research and field work and anything that looks remotely like a sub to cut it at the stem and make a ID thread on here.
best of luck for 2012
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Humanoid
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Thanks man, I think once I've done more research, become a regular member of the forums and just read a lot and talked a lot about it I'll be less worried about doing it wrong, I am glad I didn't go out this season though.
I mean there seems to be only one kind of mushroom I should be looking out for, and it's got orange gills, so that's kind of a dead giveaway.
Thanks for helping me out guys, and I hope your season of picking went well, and by browsing this thread I see that it was.
And I guess I'd feel a lot more comfortable picking them myself than buying them off someone, because then I know how much effort has gone into getting a positive ID on them
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Edited by Humanoid (08/08/11 05:11 AM)
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lord of the gnomes
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Re: South Australia 2011 inactives [Re: Humanoid]
#14894015 - 08/09/11 02:23 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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stopped by another patch quicky on my way home today, found another 4, 3 were trodden on and the other was fresh and juicy so i picked it. Il put some pics up later coz the thread is most deffinetly in need of some...
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jonstoned
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^ it hell is!! I havnt been out in weeks holding out to see if we can find some decent sizes.
Not sure how much luck will be had though lol
On another note, my acacias and mimosas are doing nicely, not a very high germ rate on the mimosa though, got a good 8 that are about 4cm seedlings I did have some sort of fungi growing out of my seedling mix the other day maybe I'll put a pic of that up it's the only mush action I've had in ages lol
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bobwastaken
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Re: South Australia 2011 inactives [Re: jonstoned]
#14899683 - 08/10/11 03:45 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Went for a walk to one of my spots today with a camera to get a snapshot of what the subs are doing. There's still a few subs about despite the warm dry spell. Some even looked quite healthy unlike the very dry subs that were around a month ago. The large specimen in the first pic has a 6cm cap and 1cm thick stem. I'm sure a haul of 30+ is still quite manageable with a thorough search but personally I'm done picking for the season:)

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VecAndSally
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Re: South Australia 2011 inactives [Re: bobwastaken]
#14900069 - 08/10/11 08:02 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nice pics good stuff
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fungus.amongus
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Re: South Australia 2011 inactives [Re: VecAndSally]
#14904686 - 08/11/11 02:20 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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todays finds
lastly, this innactive...
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Smokeandtoke
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fungus.amongus said: todays finds
lastly, this innactive...

Awesome pics man, good to see there's still pins coming up were they a bit on the dry side at all?....just out of curiosity
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jonstoned
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Re: South Australia 2011 inactives [Re: VecAndSally]
#14904862 - 08/11/11 04:37 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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good to see people are still finding them!
Nice pics ericos_bob & fungus.amongus
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