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OfflineSarfix
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Is dunk and roll necessary?
    #14167659 - 03/22/11 11:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Is it necessary and if not how big of a difference does it make by not doing it?  I'm out of vermiculite, and if it doesn't make a huge difference I won't go buy any.  If it's drastic I'll make sure to put an order in. Thanks guys.


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Re: Is dunk and roll necessary? [Re: Sarfix]
    #14167693 - 03/22/11 11:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

when you dunk, you're adding moisture back into the cake, and mushrooms are 90 percent water, so you do the math at how horrible your yeild will be if you dont do it..

as for verm, its like a casing on your cake, its added to help hold moisture in the cake its a must man, go spend 5 bucks on some verm.


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Re: Is dunk and roll necessary? [Re: biologys]
    #14167711 - 03/22/11 11:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Ok I'll do that.  Was just curious because Some of the teaks I read said optional next to it.  Thanks for the prompt response. :smile:


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Re: Is dunk and roll necessary? [Re: Sarfix]
    #14167779 - 03/23/11 12:07 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

rolling the cakes in verm is optional but is highly recommended. i didnt dunk my cakes in verm and i had a rough time getting it to pin or fruit. it would only fruit on from the bottom where there was verm because it was getting enough moisture from it.


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Re: Is dunk and roll necessary? [Re: chinamon]
    #14167994 - 03/23/11 01:00 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Verm will create a nice microclimate for growth formation....


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Re: Is dunk and roll necessary? [Re: i GrOw StUFF]
    #14168610 - 03/23/11 07:12 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

dunk it over night.


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Re: Is dunk and roll necessary? [Re: biologys]
    #14169426 - 03/23/11 11:22 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

personally im kinnda sketchy on the dunk and roll? i know it wont yield nearly as much but misting the fc a couple times a day is wat i plan on doing


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Re: Is dunk and roll necessary? [Re: Sarfix]
    #14169501 - 03/23/11 11:40 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

This is what happens if you don't dunk and roll a rye cake.
From my experiences I would recommend you getting
verm and do the dunk and roll process.


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Re: Is dunk and roll necessary? [Re: darkhawk37]
    #14170401 - 03/23/11 02:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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darkhawk37 said:
personally im kinnda sketchy on the dunk and roll? i know it wont yield nearly as much but misting the fc a couple times a day is wat i plan on doing




It will also have TINY mushrooms....Misting won't do much for hydrating a cake...


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Re: Is dunk and roll necessary? [Re: darkhawk37]
    #14170492 - 03/23/11 02:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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darkhawk37 said:
personally im kinnda sketchy on the dunk and roll? i know it wont yield nearly as much but misting the fc a couple times a day is wat i plan on doing



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Re: Is dunk and roll necessary? [Re: Sarfix]
    #14230574 - 04/03/11 10:31 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

dunk always when the cake is dry,few hours is enough


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Re: Is dunk and roll necessary? [Re: JALESIO]
    #14230589 - 04/03/11 10:34 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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JALESIO said:
dunk always when the cake is dry,few hours is enough




again, no.

"few hours" is not enough. you want the cake to fully absorb all the water it can bc mushies are 90% water...the more water inside the better off you are

I dunk and leave them submurged for 12-18 hours...roll them in verm so that you can mist and keep them moist bc verm holds moisture


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Re: Is dunk and roll necessary? [Re: shroomiin]
    #14237824 - 04/04/11 06:52 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Don't understand what the problem is here.....Dunk the cakes for 24 hours, roll in the verm that you had in the oven for 30 minutes....I did a couple cakes with no verm and they didn't work out as well.  Man up and do the job right the first time.....


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