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Did I overreact?
    #14167632 - 03/22/11 11:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

So, I've had an odd day, which left me feeling good at a life despite having a small breakdown at a friend's house. That is, until my ex girlfriend who is one of my closest friends nowadays, and I also still have feelings for her.

Here's the conversation. It's not excessively long.

Also, note that she does heroin and did it with me only a few weeks go.

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The Ex
ellllo
Synesthetic
'Ello love.
The Ex
How are ya
Synesthetic
All right, actually, I went up to my dad's to get my bedding to make my bed more comfy, talked to my grandparents who are going to pay for me to go to the doctor and get my psych meds, went to Benbretti's for awhile, and had a cathartic cry after my dad called and pretty much yelled at me because even though I tried to call him before going to get my bedding he very rudely told me I can never go
there without talking to him.
The Ex
I'm sorry Jake.
Synesthetic
Like I said, it was cathartic.
The Ex
Other than that how have things been
Synesthetic
Although I am pretty angry at him getting so upset because his only son went over to say high to his sister and get something that's his in the first place.
And other than that they've been pretty shitty thanks to my horribe mood swings, panic attacks, and terrifying nightmares.
The Ex
Well you have to keep in mind you don't live so there you don't have a right to go over whenenver you please even if you call wait for an answer.
Meditate.
Synesthetic
I don't live at my grandparents either, but when I go over unannounced they are ecstatic to see me.
He also implied he doesn't ever want me in his house when he's not home.
The Ex
The difference is they didn't kick you out. Well honestly I hate when people are at my house without me being there so I get why he implied it... sorry I'm sounding like a bitch but I'm trying not to be.
Synesthetic
My sister was home, my grandparents were next door, and his girlfriend was there as well.
Honestly, you're making me even more upset about it.
The Ex
I'm sorry. Don't talk to me if you don't like what I say.
Synesthetic
Because it feels like my dad has stopped caring for me whatsoever and doesn't ever want to see me.
The Ex
He still loves you. You have a lot to make up for and he probably feels like you haven't even tried to make an effort
Synesthetic
That's bullshit.
I can't believe you said that.
I've apologized for what I did many times, did everything I could to make up for what I did, and he didn't accept any of it.]
Not to mention the fact that HE WAS BEATING ME!
The Ex
I'm not going to sugar coat it anymore. I'm being blunt. You don't like it don't talk to me. I've ended a lot of long-term friendships recently because of stupid bullshit.
Actions speak louder than words.
Synesthetic
How is this stupid?
What actions?
The Ex
If I seen my child on heriorn I'd probably beat the fuck out of them. I'm not taking sides I can see it both ways but just saying I would have beat the living daylight out of you if you were mine.
Synesthetic
He didn't know I was heroin at the time!
The Ex
It's not stupid but fighting with me over my opinions is stupid.
Synesthetic
HE WAS DRUNK AND STARTED BEATING ME WHILE LAUGHING ABOUT IT!
The Ex
He's not stupid.
Synesthetic
And even though I was only defending myself, I still think I should have just let him beat me within an inch ofmy life!
The Ex
I'm not talking about this anymore. This is between you and him.
Synesthetic
Well that's not even the point.
He really hurt me today, andI never saidhewasan asshole or that I didn't understand, I was just telling you that what he said hurt, becauseit did.
Fucking spacebar.
The Ex
Talk it out. Put your egos aside and talk.
Synesthetic
You think I haven't tried? Every time I tried, the conversation ended because he said I'm just blaming all my problems on him, which I don't do.
And have never done.
I fucking love my dad, and I still look up to him and wish him no ill will or suffering.
The Ex
Jake listen to yourself. I know you, you might not realize it but you blame everyone else for your problems. Be ambitious and show your willing to work to get his trust back.
Synesthetic
I BLAME ALL MY PROBLEMS ON MYSELF!
THAT'S THE REASON I'M SO FUCKED UP EMOTIONALLY!
The Ex
Whatever I'm going to bed.
Synesthetic
Fine, leave me again. I'm only having a really rough time, I've only tried to be there for you any time you've even hinted that something was wrong and helped you through a lot of your problems, even the ones that really were your fault.
The Ex
I'm sorry I have a life and work.
Text me tomorrow if your still upset but I'm done listening to it tonight.





Did I react poorly to what she said? I feel b


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Synesthetic] * 4
    #14167639 - 03/22/11 11:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

you are all moody and shit...knock it off it aint attractive


get off the drugs and grow up


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Synesthetic]
    #14167642 - 03/22/11 11:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

no way man shes being totally insensitive
she must feel some stigma or something
dont let it get to you man
some bitches are just crazy  :weirdeyes:


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Coaster]
    #14167672 - 03/22/11 11:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

She was being a total


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Synesthetic]
    #14167676 - 03/22/11 11:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I don't think so dude, the way she reacted to you getting beat up by your dad was bullshit. Even if your dad knew at the time he beat you that you were doing heroin, that's no justification for physically assaulting you.


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: mescalinician]
    #14167691 - 03/22/11 11:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I still feel really hurt.


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Synesthetic]
    #14167695 - 03/22/11 11:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

drink a 40 and chill


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: mescalinician]
    #14167698 - 03/22/11 11:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I think you need to talk it with him instead trying to shift all your emotion onto her.


and GTFO the smack


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: mescalinician]
    #14167701 - 03/22/11 11:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

it would be different if this was a one time convo.

but it sounds like this is a reoccuring theme for you, playing the victim. and even when you are one, playing the character rarely gets the desired effects. especially when your addicted to heroin.


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: mescalinician]
    #14167716 - 03/22/11 11:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Sounds like the chick hates ya, or is sick of you and now hates ya. They are good at being hateful with words. Ain't duality a bitch. :laugh2:


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: DarkMatterOfFact]
    #14167719 - 03/22/11 11:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

it also sounds like this dude needs to get his shit together and drink a 40


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: BeverageFace]
    #14167726 - 03/22/11 11:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:hakunamatata:


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: DarkMatterOfFact]
    #14167738 - 03/22/11 11:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I only do heroin once in a great while.

I was having a great and cathartic night until I talked to her.


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Synesthetic] * 2
    #14167742 - 03/22/11 11:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I don't know what to tell you, sounds like a crappy situation.  One thing I have learned, never have a serious conversation over texts.  Body language and inflection are important in these types of discussions.


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14167750 - 03/22/11 11:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Bodhi of Ankou said:
I think you need to talk it with him instead trying to shift all your emotion onto her.


and GTFO the smack




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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Synesthetic]
    #14167756 - 03/23/11 12:00 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Never go to someones home unannounced. I fuckin hate it when people do that shit.


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: LloydChristmas]
    #14167759 - 03/23/11 12:01 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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LloydChristmas said:
I don't know what to tell you, sounds like a crappy situation.  One thing I have learned, never have a serious conversation over texts.  Body language and inflection or important in these types of discussions.



Totally true!


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Synesthetic]
    #14167766 - 03/23/11 12:03 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Synesthetic said:
I only do heroin once in a great while.

I was having a great and cathartic night until I talked to her.




did you just learn that word, you used it 3 times talking to her, and now in talking to us.

that alone would make me not want to talk to you if i were her.

And why dont you understand, if someone kicks you out, you have no right to go into their home for any reason, even if it is your parents, unless they give you permission. even if they have your things, suck it up and work it out with them to get it back. if they refuse, get a police escort.

youre lucky your dad isnt a super dick and had you charged.


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Synesthetic]
    #14167807 - 03/23/11 12:12 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You bitch a lot and she put you in your place.


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs]
    #14167814 - 03/23/11 12:15 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Seems like a typical bitch, what did you expect? she really doesn't care about your emotional troubles, and makes that pretty obvious. Really the best thing you can do is try your best at getting shit together with your dad.


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: DarkMatterOfFact]
    #14167823 - 03/23/11 12:16 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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BeverageFace said:youre lucky your dad isnt a super dick and had you charged.




Dad beating him up > him doing heroin.  The dad should be charged if anyone.

Quote:

DarkMatterOfFact said:
Sounds like the chick hates ya, or is sick of you and now hates ya. They are good at being hateful with words. Ain't duality a bitch. :laugh2:




I agree, perhaps she don't want to talk to you anymore.  Or it could be that she only wants to talk to you about her problems and not the other way around, some people are selfish like that.


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs]
    #14167855 - 03/23/11 12:25 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The night in question happened in 2009, and I really believed we'd gotten over it. I've come over unannounced several times, because that's how we've always been. I didn't just break in to his house. I called him, he didn't answer, so I went over there because I was going to my friend's house anyway, and he lives just half a suburban block away.

I knocked on the door, my sister answered, I asked if I could come in to get my bedding, she said okay.

So I did, and I hung around to catch up with my sister, got my bedding, and then went next door to visit my grandparents, who were very helpful in motivating me to go back to the doctor and get refills on my prescriptions before I do something stupid.


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Synesthetic] * 1
    #14167866 - 03/23/11 12:27 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Don't mean to sound like a jerk but I'd say you definitely overreacted. You basically sent this message to her: "I don't give a fuck about what you think unless you're sucking my dick." I mean that metaphorically here, to be clear, but take it how you will.


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14167886 - 03/23/11 12:31 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

She's a cunt


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: propensity] * 3
    #14167927 - 03/23/11 12:38 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Honestly man that was just a super immature conversion.

You: Had a bad day.
Her: That sucks.
You: Yeah man, it was like, totally bad.
Her: Shit dude well what you gonna do.
You: No, I mean like, it was really, really bad, man.
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You: Well I dunno, it was bad.
Her: I don't care!
You: But it was so BAD!  Why don't you understand?!
Her: I do, but I don't fucking give a shit OK.  You don't like what I have to say, then don't talk to me.
You: But it was SUCH A BAD DAY!  :awesurprise:


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: propensity]
    #14167932 - 03/23/11 12:39 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You totally went off on her and kept bitching over and over... its no wonder she didn't want to talk to you. It sounds like she is having a tough time herself and she doesn't want to listen to your bullshit (sounds like you did something in the past?)

But she is right. Actions speak much louder than words. She could of been a little nicer but I agree with what she said for the most part.


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: amilibertine]
    #14167989 - 03/23/11 12:56 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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amilibertine said:
Quote:

BeverageFace said:youre lucky your dad isnt a super dick and had you charged.




Dad beating him up > him doing heroin.  The dad should be charged if anyone.

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DarkMatterOfFact said:
Sounds like the chick hates ya, or is sick of you and now hates ya. They are good at being hateful with words. Ain't duality a bitch. :laugh2:




I agree, perhaps she don't want to talk to you anymore.  Or it could be that she only wants to talk to you about her problems and not the other way around, some people are selfish like that.





I meant his father charging him for entering his home after his dad kicked him out. nobody has the right to be in someone elses home without their permission. id lose my shit if someone was in my home after i made them leave.


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Uzziel]
    #14168050 - 03/23/11 01:18 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Uzziel said:
You totally went off on her and kept bitching over and over... its no wonder she didn't want to talk to you. It sounds like she is having a tough time herself and she doesn't want to listen to your bullshit (sounds like you did something in the past?)

But she is right. Actions speak much louder than words. She could of been a little nicer but I agree with what she said for the most part.




This.

I think you just contacted her to piss and moan, even though you say your day was great until this, and she was just tired of trying to help you because all you did was go on and on about yourself.

I mean fuck, you could have asked about her day!


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Takura001]
    #14168297 - 03/23/11 03:12 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Dont listen to these assholes....she was being a BITCH!!! Prolly on the rag...


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: thelivingfreekshow]
    #14168330 - 03/23/11 03:32 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The girl is right. Its there house and if they don't want you in when they are not at home then thats is entirely in their right. Visa versa of course.


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: virus1824]
    #14168341 - 03/23/11 03:38 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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virus1824 said:
The girl is right. Its there house and if they don't want you in when they are not at home then thats is entirely in their right. Visa versa of course.




i guess but family shouldnt treat you like that...


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: thelivingfreekshow]
    #14168345 - 03/23/11 03:40 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

He uses heroin and has been kicked out of the house. If he was my son i wouldn't let him in my house either. Well not alone in any case :shrug:

Totally understandable from the father's point of view.


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: virus1824]
    #14168373 - 03/23/11 03:52 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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He uses heroin and has been kicked out of the house. If he was my son i wouldn't let him in my house either. Well not alone in any case :shrug:

Totally understandable from the father's point of view.




:freshwtf: Doing heroin instantly brings question to his character? Judge much?


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Synesthetic]
    #14168397 - 03/23/11 04:25 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You completely over-reacted.

It sounds like the ex gf was spot and you're a drama queen.

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The night in question happened in 2009, and I really believed we'd gotten over it.




Are you really still talking about showing up unannounced at someone's house after 2 years?  Get over it.


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Synesthetic]
    #14168401 - 03/23/11 04:26 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Can't really tell if you overreacted if I don't know the whole story--for all I know, everything your ex was saying is true. :shrug:



Quote:

amilibertine said:
Or it could be that she only wants to talk to you about her problems and not the other way around, some people are selfish like that.


I've met plenty of people like this, it kinda sucks. :frown:


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Synesthetic]
    #14168409 - 03/23/11 04:38 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'm going to be a pedantic dick, so watch out.

Dude, in that conversation, was there _any_ moment you thought of informing how she was doing? Sounds to me that (a) you have some issues and (b) you crave for other people recognizing that and consoling you. Now there's nothing wrong with having issues, but don't expect others to always sympathize with them. Especially not when you're only looking to be listened to, and not open to listen to the other person. Having said that, I'll answer your question:
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Did I react poorly to what she said?



Yes, and so did she. Maybe she just expected a nice chat without any emo stuff. You didn't sense that, and neither did you give her the opportunity to let that be known. And maybe you were just looking for a shoulder to cry on, but you never really tested the water to see if that was a realistic expectation at this point and with this person.

In short: if you expect others to be sensitive towards you, then first be sensitive towards them. Otherwise it's going to be mismatching expectations and frustration all over the place.


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: koraks]
    #14168429 - 03/23/11 04:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i think the op was looking for a sympathy fuck and the hoe caught on and was fuck that not doing it, then he caught on and realized she wasn't doing it and got all pissy

look at the key words:

calls her love
tells her about how he's making his bed all soft for her
tells her how he's on meds so his dick will be all hard
tells her how pissed he is so he'll tear it up
reminds her nobody cares about him(implying he'll care about her while beating it up)


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calls him a child
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going to end this "friendship"
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imply's that she wants to beat the fuck out of him

i dunno thats what i got from it all:shrug:


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #14168438 - 03/23/11 05:05 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

He's just too emotional for her, and she's sick of dealing with it; it's probably why they broke up.


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    #14168636 - 03/23/11 07:33 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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He uses heroin and has been kicked out of the house. If he was my son i wouldn't let him in my house either. Well not alone in any case :shrug:

Totally understandable from the father's point of view.




:freshwtf: Doing heroin instantly brings question to his character? Judge much?




Yes on both counts. For one people don't get kicked out of there elderly house for no reason. And if the parents refuse to give keys cause they don't trust him alone in the house, well then somethings definitely up ey? Don't have to be :tmckenna: to understand that.


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: virus1824]
    #14168735 - 03/23/11 08:24 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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He uses heroin and has been kicked out of the house. If he was my son i wouldn't let him in my house either. Well not alone in any case :shrug:

Totally understandable from the father's point of view.




:freshwtf: Doing heroin instantly brings question to his character? Judge much?




Yes on both counts. For one people don't get kicked out of there elderly house for no reason. And if the parents refuse to give keys cause they don't trust him alone in the house, well then somethings definitely up ey? Don't have to be :tmckenna: to understand that.




Getting kicked out of your parents house doesn't automatically mean your a bad person... Grow the fuck up.


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    #14168747 - 03/23/11 08:28 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I don't think he said that.


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    #14168761 - 03/23/11 08:34 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I don't think he said that.




Yeah he is implying that its the kids fault for being kicked out.

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Yes on both counts. For one people don't get kicked out of there elderly house for no reason. And if the parents refuse to give keys cause they don't trust him alone in the house, well then somethings definitely up ey? Don't have to be :tmckenna: to understand that.




Maybe in some situations but not all. In a lot of situations the parents of pieces of shit who deserve to be fed into a meat grinder.


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14168781 - 03/23/11 08:44 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

you certainly seem to know a a lot about me. So much even you have to put words in my mouth.

If i grow up even more i'd die or touch the clouds. I know enough of nice people that don't get keys or are allowed to be alone in there elderly house since they would take crap and sell it. since they are extremely poor.

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Yeah he is implying that its the kids fault for being kicked out.



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In a lot of situations the parents of pieces of shit




You bitch on me for apparently giving the kid the blame but now you do the same on the parent :shrug:

Can't say who's in the fault. All i can say it wasn't santa. And like i said before, people don't get kicked out and get refused entry alone without reason.

You seem to react quite much to my response. Parent trouble kiddo? :rofl:


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    #14168788 - 03/23/11 08:46 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I don't think he said that.




Yeah he is implying that its the kids fault for being kicked out.


So, that doesn't mean that he's saying that the kid is a bad person, as you suggested.


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Yes on both counts. For one people don't get kicked out of there elderly house for no reason. And if the parents refuse to give keys cause they don't trust him alone in the house, well then somethings definitely up ey? Don't have to be :tmckenna: to understand that.




Maybe in some situations but not all. In a lot of situations the parents of pieces of shit who deserve to be fed into a meat grinder.



And a lot of times the parent just wants to teach their kids a valuable lesson.


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: virus1824]
    #14168797 - 03/23/11 08:49 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Actually me and my parents have an awesome relationship, I couldn't ask for a better one.

However I have seen what some really shitty parents have done, and in one case, the death of their daughter. 
When you have seen and experienced what I have as I said, maybe you would think differently.

Like I said, in some cases its the kids but its not always the case, and in many cases the parents are at least partially or all to blame.


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    #14168823 - 03/23/11 08:56 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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hen you have seen and experienced what I have as I said, maybe you would think differently.




All i can say to that is someday i hope I'l grow, and have just as much life experience as you do. Seriously I'd use that wisdom and plant a big wisdom tree. Then I'd sit under it and say: "damn I'd wish all people could have the same life experience as tymoteusz3".


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    #14168827 - 03/23/11 08:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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hen you have seen and experienced what I have as I said, maybe you would think differently.




All i can say to that is someday i hope I'l grow, and have just as much life experience as you do. Seriously I'd use that wisdom and plant a big wisdom tree. Then I'd sit under it and say: "damn I'd wish all people could have the same life experience as tymoteusz3".




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    #14168835 - 03/23/11 08:59 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Thats exactly what i thought. But i rephrased it in a nice sentence for you.


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    #14168837 - 03/23/11 09:00 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:lol::thumbup:


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    #14168861 - 03/23/11 09:12 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i thought the wisdom tree was very cute


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    #14168884 - 03/23/11 09:21 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

As did I. :datass:


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: thelivingfreekshow]
    #14168950 - 03/23/11 09:44 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

She actually gives a shit about you and wants to get you unstuck from stupid. She might have been being a bitch but she was keeping it 100 with you so maybe you need to get over your daddy issues and press on instead of letting the obstacles in your life run you.

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    #14169388 - 03/23/11 11:12 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

To everyone giving the OP a hard time for "bitching" or "whining" or whatever, haven't you ever needed to vent to someone before?  I know how much it can hurt when a person who is supposed to care about and protect you uses you as a punching bag (although I was much younger then the OP).  Perhaps this is why I'm so willing to excuse - to a point - the more pedantic of the OP's comments in his conversation; my bias doesn't necessarily detract from my point, though.

I can virtually guarantee that practically anyone who knows me would say I'm the least "dramatic" person they know; getting worked up about petty things, screaming at people, and so on seems like a futile waste of effort to me and I often struggle to understand why some people seem to thrive on drama and are always finding some molehill to make into a mountain.

That said, I've been through some pretty difficult stuff before - who hasn't? - and having friends that I could talk to , get everything off my chest, and "vent" to when things were bad was invaluable.  The OP says the ex is supposedly a very close friend of his, and IMO close friends should be there to listen when you need to get something off your chest, just like you should be there for them.  Obviously, there's a limit to how much "venting" you can reasonably expect a friend to sit there and listen to, but don't give the guy a hard time or call him a drama queen because he had a bad day and really needed to get some stuff off his chest.  I am not saying that I think the OP was anything approaching a gentleman in this conversation, just that I think it's reasonable to cut him a little slack for being inartful with his words considering what we know about the situation he had been in and what he was experiencing at the time.

That said, it doesn't sound to me like this girl actually is a good friend.  She's an ex, one it sounds like the OP still has feelings for, which means the relationship is undoubtedly a complicated one.  She obviously was not the right person to talk to about this stuff. 

I'm not saying I would have gone about that conversation the way the OP did, but the stuff the ex said was pretty unacceptable IMO  - especially since it was spoken to a supposed friend who obviously was hurting and in need of a compassionate ear.  She easily could have just at the beginning said "hey, i'm sorry you're unhappy, but I'm busy (or had a bad day myself, or whatever) and really can't talk to you about this right now."  Passing judgment the way that she did, and the hypocritical stuff she said about the whole heroin thing, just isn't cool.

Even if the OP is like this all the time and this convo wasn't born from a relatively uncommon "needing to vent" emotional state, why would this girl choose to be his friend and talk to him at all?  I sense a good bit of insensitivity coming from her - at least, for someone who calls herself a friend.

All I'm really trying to say is that we all (or at least, the people I know) have had times in our lives when we've been distraught and leaned on/vented to a friend/family member; calling the OP a drama queen after reading one conversation isn't fair.  He very well may be an extremely dramatic person, but even if he is, anyone claiming to be his friend should know this and have a little compassion and understanding.  After all, it doesn't sound like the guy's life is all peaches and cream right now.

It's one thing to be 'annoying' or 'irritating'; it's quite another to be mean/hostile/hurtful.  If you don't like someone, don't string them along and pretend to be their friend and then turn venomous when they turn to you in need of a few kind words.  IMO, this girl is not your (the OP's) friend. 

Anyway, good luck with the shrink/meds/all that, and I hope the family situation gets better.  It can't hurt to keep reaching out and trying to mend things with your dad - my advice would just be to make sure that if you're angry or not in the best mood or find yourself about to say something ugly, hang up or walk away instead.  When you're consistently the 'bigger' person, especially when you're dealing with parents (who are supposed to be the more 'mature' ones), it becomes very difficult for them to give you a hard time - or scream and yell - without looking like a jerk, especially if there are other people around.  I don't envy your situation, but it's not like it's hopeless, so rather than succumbing to bitterness, let it make you a better and stronger and more worldly human being.


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I don't know what to tell you, sounds like a crappy situation.  One thing I have learned, never have a serious conversation over texts.  Body language and inflection are important in these types of discussions.




This is absolutely the truth.  Important conversations should always be held in person.  This brings to mind people who break up with their boyfriend or girlfriend by leaving a voicemail, or sending a text message or IM, or even over a phone call.  Whenever I've broken up with someone I've done it in person; when I broke up with someone I was with for a long time (year and a half or so), I called to say I needed to talk to him and to find out if I could come over.  I drove there (45 minute drive, too), we talked at great length, we cried together, and when he asked if I would stay the night because he was a wreck, I did. 

I think with long-distance communication having become so easy, many people are losing the appreciation for face-to-face conversation, and don't seem to realize how little respect (and how much cowardice) that it shows when you break up, for example, over some electronic medium rather than face to face.


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    #14169553 - 03/23/11 11:52 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

To the OP

you sound like an overemotional teenage girl.  stop being such a baby and overly flaunting your enormous emotional problems.  you say hi to each other and within seconds youre bitching on and on about your problems in such an attention-seeker way.  thats why she got so annoyed with you, you sound like a bitch


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    #14169595 - 03/23/11 12:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

tl;dr:crazybeard:


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    #14169664 - 03/23/11 12:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Like I said, in some cases its the kids but its not always the case, and in many cases the parents are at least partially or all to blame.




This is true a lot of the time I think, especially in the cases of drug addict children who most of the time grew up watching their parents get fucked up and emulated them. 

Not always the case but I bet I would have had a different perspective if I didn't grow up with drugs and alcohol in my face constantly.

Glad my mom got her shit together, she's been clean for 6 years now and we have a great relationship.  Drugs suck sometimes.


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    #14169830 - 03/23/11 12:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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There's your problem.  You're looking for sympathy from someone who has lost a lot of sympathy for you.  She may be a generally sympathetic person but no matter how much respect you think she has for you it is most likely less respect than she had for you while you were going out.

She has her own life with her own troubles and she may be just as tired of running in circles with your families as you are.  Fortunately, for her, unlike you, she can just brush it off and not have it effect her.

She may have been a little too blunt, but I think the lesson here is to find some else who is willing to give you this level of sympathy.


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Idiot]
    #14170305 - 03/23/11 01:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I didn't get kicked out of my dad's house, I left because I'd had enough. There's a big difference.

No one knew about the heroin until when he was throwing all my shit in to boxes he found a couple of spore syringes, and since there was no way he'd believe me if I said what they were really for, I just let him think the worst.

I was overemotional last night, but that's what happens with me. It has nothing to do with needing to grow up or being immature, I easily get overwhelmed by my mood swings and do or say stupid things.

I did overreact last night, but I was vulnerable and irrational when I talked to her. I thought she'd always be there for me those times when I needed her, because contrary to popular belief, most of the people around me don't know anything's wrong until I've gone off the deep end.


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Synesthetic]
    #14170340 - 03/23/11 02:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Unless you make a conscious decision to own your emotions and take unswerving responsibility for them, they're going to keep kicking your ass until the day you die.

I don't understand your situation psychologically, but it appears that you speak a language of excuses. You speak of your emotions as though they are imposed from above rather than from within. Even if they ARE imposed from above, you will never master them if you take your subjugation by them for granted.

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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14170388 - 03/23/11 02:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

If emotions were easy to control, then the human race would look much different. :monkeydance:


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Poid]
    #14170395 - 03/23/11 02:10 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'm not saying he should take total control of his emotions, that's impossible. I'm just saying that he should learn to view them as a part of his own psyche and life experience, rather than as some kind of external motivator for which he can't be held responsible.

You can't control your emotions but you can sure as hell control yourself and your actions. I mean, how can you ever expect to learn from your mistakes if you blame every one of them on factors beyond your control? :shrug:


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14170485 - 03/23/11 02:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I'm not saying he should take total control of his emotions, that's impossible. I'm just saying that he should learn to view them as a part of his own psyche and life experience, rather than as some kind of external motivator for which he can't be held responsible.


What if he views that external motivator for which he can't be held responsible as part of his own psyche and life experience?


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You can't control your emotions but you can sure as hell control yourself and your actions. I mean, how can you ever expect to learn from your mistakes if you blame every one of them on factors beyond your control? :shrug:


I'm not sure if he blames every one of his mistakes on his uncontrollable emotions; if he does, though, I would agree that it would be better for him to not do this.


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Poid]
    #14170518 - 03/23/11 02:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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If emotions were easy to control, then the human race would exist much differently. :monkeydance:


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Poid]
    #14170524 - 03/23/11 02:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Like I said I don't perfectly understand the circumstances he's coming from, but in my experiences there are two ways to look at your mistakes.

a) I snorted my entire adderall prescription up my nose and jerked off for the entire weekend because I was stressed, bored, and lonely.

b) I made a terrible mistake and I should try to find ways to prevent its recurrence.

Certainly, train of thought a) can inform and assist train of thought b), but getting off the train at the end of line a) is only setting you up to make the exact same mistake over, and over, and over again.

Synesthetic's posts are rife with "I did so and so BUT I was overemotional" as though that's the end of the story, and as though he is praying it doesn't "happen" again.

Anyway, it's entirely possible I've read this whole thing wrong, and if so I apologize to you, Synesthetic, for my insensitivity.


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Poid]
    #14170544 - 03/23/11 02:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I'm not saying he should take total control of his emotions, that's impossible. I'm just saying that he should learn to view them as a part of his own psyche and life experience, rather than as some kind of external motivator for which he can't be held responsible.


What if he views that external motivator for which he can't be held responsible as part of his own psyche and life experience?


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You can't control your emotions but you can sure as hell control yourself and your actions. I mean, how can you ever expect to learn from your mistakes if you blame every one of them on factors beyond your control? :shrug:


I'm not sure if he blames every one of his mistakes on his uncontrollable emotions; if he does, though, I would agree that it would be better for him to not do this.




I never said that. where did i type that?

What do you go around and make up quotes people never said, and then respond to them to boost your ego?

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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: BeverageFace]
    #14170547 - 03/23/11 02:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I said that. I think it's an honest mistake.


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14170556 - 03/23/11 02:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I think it's an honest mistake.


He doesn't. :lol:


Dude's been following me around talking shit all day, it's fucking gay. I think he has a boner for me or something.


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    #14170571 - 03/23/11 02:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I said that. I think it's an honest mistake.





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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Poid]
    #14170573 - 03/23/11 02:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Wasn't BeverageFace the guy who was trolling Prisoner#1 in that Coaster thread the other day? :rofl:


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14170580 - 03/23/11 02:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Like I said I don't perfectly understand the circumstances he's coming from, but in my experiences there are two ways to look at your mistakes.

a) I snorted my entire adderall prescription up my nose and jerked off for the entire weekend because I was stressed, bored, and lonely.

b) I made a terrible mistake and I should try to find ways to prevent its recurrence.

Certainly, train of thought a) can inform and assist train of thought b), but getting off the train at the end of line a) is only setting you up to make the exact same mistake over, and over, and over again.


Well yeah, but that's kind of an extreme example, don't you think? :lol:


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Synesthetic's posts are rife with "I did so and so BUT I was overemotional" as though that's the end of the story, and as though he is praying it doesn't "happen" again.


What he did is not comparable to snorting his entire adderall prescription up his nose and jerking off for the entire weekend because I was stressed, bored, and lonely, though; if it was, I'd be more inclined to agree with the general theme of what you're saying.


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    #14170589 - 03/23/11 02:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I said that. I think it's an honest mistake.





lol, poid just pm'd me threatening to beat me up.


No I didn't, I said we should meet up and settle our disagreements--you're about to be banned! :haha::bye:


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14170593 - 03/23/11 02:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Wasn't BeverageFace the guy who was trolling Prisoner#1 in that Coaster thread the other day? :rofl:


I dunno, I think he's a puppet, though. :stoned:


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14170604 - 03/23/11 02:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Look, I don't sit and wallow in these horrible feelings because I like it or because it's easier than trying to do something about them.

If they weren't beyond my control, I wouldn't have been diagnosed as having a mood disorder.

I didn't ask for help getting back on my meds, which is all I can do to get this somewhere I can manage them, because when I'm feeling as low as I have, I irrationally think no one cares, no one will help, because I'm just a worthless waste of space who would do the world a favor by ceasing to exist.

I'm not being overly dramatic for whatever sake, that's how I really feel about life when I let myself go this far.

But now I'm going to get back on my meds because being a slave to those feelings is no way to live.


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    #14170609 - 03/23/11 02:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I said that. I think it's an honest mistake.





lol, poid just pm'd me threatening to beat me up.


No I didn't, I said we should meet up and settle our disagreements--you're about to be banned! :haha::bye:





Take this to the other thread i created, quit dirtying this one up.


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Poid]
    #14170610 - 03/23/11 02:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Like I said I don't perfectly understand the circumstances he's coming from, but in my experiences there are two ways to look at your mistakes.

a) I snorted my entire adderall prescription up my nose and jerked off for the entire weekend because I was stressed, bored, and lonely.

b) I made a terrible mistake and I should try to find ways to prevent its recurrence.

Certainly, train of thought a) can inform and assist train of thought b), but getting off the train at the end of line a) is only setting you up to make the exact same mistake over, and over, and over again.


Well yeah, but that's kind of an extreme example, don't you think? :lol:


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Synesthetic's posts are rife with "I did so and so BUT I was overemotional" as though that's the end of the story, and as though he is praying it doesn't "happen" again.


What he did is not comparable to snorting his entire adderall prescription up his nose and jerking off for the entire weekend because I was stressed, bored, and lonely, though; if it was, I'd be more inclined to agree with the general theme of what you're saying.




Fair enough, it's not really a comparable situation. I believe strongly in writing what you know, though. :sheen:

My only real point here is that if you make excuses for your mistakes then you're going to keep repeating them until you either die or learn to stop making excuses.


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Synesthetic]
    #14170626 - 03/23/11 02:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

you are an emo

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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Synesthetic]
    #14170729 - 03/23/11 03:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Look, I don't sit and wallow in these horrible feelings because I like it or because it's easier than trying to do something about them.

If they weren't beyond my control, I wouldn't have been diagnosed as having a mood disorder.

I didn't ask for help getting back on my meds, which is all I can do to get this somewhere I can manage them, because when I'm feeling as low as I have, I irrationally think no one cares, no one will help, because I'm just a worthless waste of space who would do the world a favor by ceasing to exist.

I'm not being overly dramatic for whatever sake, that's how I really feel about life when I let myself go this far.

But now I'm going to get back on my meds because being a slave to those feelings is no way to live.


Look at it this way and im not trying to be negative, but just think if you didnt have the ability to be able to afford health insurance or whatever psychological care you have. How much would people care then medically towards your health. Ill bet beyond a few words, about none. Because your right man. Most people dont give two shits whether you drop dead or not when your chips are down. That iss how society has been made to act. Indifferent. What i do is try to be grateful for whatever ive earned or received and share to those who appreciate you and deserve it. :peace:


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Noetical]
    #14170735 - 03/23/11 03:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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My only real point here is that if you make excuses for your mistakes then you're going to keep repeating them until you either die or learn to stop making excuses.


But then how do you distinguish making excuses from attempts at forming explanations?


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you are an emo



It's not his fault--it's none of our faults that we are the way we are. :shrug:


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    #14170762 - 03/23/11 03:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

of course its his fault for acting like a prat - whose else would it be ?


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Poid]
    #14170771 - 03/23/11 03:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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My only real point here is that if you make excuses for your mistakes then you're going to keep repeating them until you either die or learn to stop making excuses.


But then how do you distinguish making excuses from an attempt at forming explanations?





I think it's the overabundance of the word "but" in the OP's posts separating actions from their explanations. It causes the clause immediately following the "but" to read like an excuse and an abandonment of responsibility for the clause preceding the "but." So I threw in my two asshole cents on that matter.

I'm starting to feel like a jerk for jacking OP's thread, though. :lol:


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: DarkMatterOfFact]
    #14170788 - 03/23/11 03:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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But now I'm going to get back on my meds because being a slave to those feelings is no way to live.


Look at it this way and im not trying to be negative, but just think if you didnt have the ability to be able to afford health insurance or whatever psychological care you have. How much would people care then medically towards your health. Ill bet beyond a few words, about none. Because your right man. Most people dont give two shits whether you drop dead or not when your chips are down. That iss how society has been made to act. Indifferent. What i do is try to be grateful for whatever ive earned or received and share to those who appreciate you and deserve it. :peace:




I'm going to go even further into the realm of lunatic-fringe insensitivity here and suggest that OP may have been better off in the end if he had never gotten psychiatric care. Psychiatry in the US is a for-profit enterprise. It's concerned with building dependencies by absolving people of their responsibilities. They do not have your best interests at heart.

I know people who have been on antidepressants for half their lives. They're as miserable as they've ever been, they're just not able to feel it and therefore not able to do anything about it. It seems like a death sentence to me.


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14170799 - 03/23/11 03:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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of course its his fault for acting like a prat - whose else would it be ?


IMO, since he didn't get to choose his early life experiences (which is when the fundamentals of our character and our style of interacting with the world is formed), and didn't get to choose his unique brain chemistry (which is the cause for is general emotional malaise), it's not his fault that he's the way he is. He didn't choose to be the way he is, so it's not his fault. :shrug:


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My only real point here is that if you make excuses for your mistakes then you're going to keep repeating them until you either die or learn to stop making excuses.


But then how do you distinguish making excuses from an attempt at forming explanations?





I think it's the overabundance of the word "but" in the OP's posts separating actions from their explanations. It causes the clause immediately following the "but" to read like an excuse and an abandonment of responsibility for the clause preceding the "but." So I threw in my two asshole cents on that matter.


I suppose that makes sense; I think it's sometimes hard to determine whether or not somebody is merely making excuses.


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I'm starting to feel like a jerk for jacking OP's thread, though. :lol:


Eh, IMO you're just trying to offer some friendly, realistic advice. :shrug:


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14170854 - 03/23/11 03:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'm not supposed to be on antidepressants, I'm supposed to be on antipsychotics because...and try to keep up...I get psychotic!

Mental disorders still have a huge stigma attached to them, because a lot of people who don't have them can't understand why the people who do can't just get over their problems.


My family was very wary about me getting psychiatric help, and didn't accept it at all until they saw how much better I got.

Everyone except for my dad, anyway. He kept saying it was bullshit and I was feeling better because I wanted to feel better or that I was just faking it for attention.

Whatever, though, I know what I need to be happy again and I'm going to go out and get it.


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Synesthetic]
    #14170872 - 03/23/11 03:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Good shit man. :thumbup:

Again I'm sorry if anything I've said came across as insensitive or unsympathetic, I was just sharing my thoughts and experiences. Best of luck to you buddy. :smile:


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Synesthetic]
    #14170882 - 03/23/11 03:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Everyone except for my dad, anyway. He kept saying it was bullshit and I was feeling better because I wanted to feel better or that I was just faking it for attention.


I feel bad that your dad treats you this way, man, that's the last thing you need at this point in your life--you have my empathy.


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Synesthetic]
    #14170891 - 03/23/11 03:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

quit drugs for at least 3-6 months....do productive shit with your life...learn skills and shit...exercise and read

come back to drugs after that

you probably dont have any serious mental illness that is naturally occurring...young people at our age and your age break down somewhat often after doing drugs since puberty and on and moving on to more serious stuff


drugs make you delusional at this age if you are too into them


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Synesthetic]
    #14170928 - 03/23/11 03:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Drugs cause very few long-term mental disorders, but untreated mental disorders cause a lot of drug use.

When I get back on my meds, like I always do, I'll stay away from drugs except for the odd night of drinking with my friends.


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14170945 - 03/23/11 03:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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But now I'm going to get back on my meds because being a slave to those feelings is no way to live.


Look at it this way and im not trying to be negative, but just think if you didnt have the ability to be able to afford health insurance or whatever psychological care you have. How much would people care then medically towards your health. Ill bet beyond a few words, about none. Because your right man. Most people dont give two shits whether you drop dead or not when your chips are down. That iss how society has been made to act. Indifferent. What i do is try to be grateful for whatever ive earned or received and share to those who appreciate you and deserve it. :peace:




I'm going to go even further into the realm of lunatic-fringe insensitivity here and suggest that OP may have been better off in the end if he had never gotten psychiatric care. Psychiatry in the US is a for-profit enterprise. It's concerned with building dependencies by absolving people of their responsibilities. They do not have your best interests at heart.

I know people who have been on antidepressants for half their lives. They're as miserable as they've ever been, they're just not able to feel it and therefore not able to do anything about it. It seems like a death sentence to me.


While that is true to a extent because it is very lucrative field and drugs are its enabler to greed. You cant stereotype it as corrupt like say are free market and judicial system, haha. It has a few good people involved generally that do or used to care about their patients well being. Although not for free which is the health care systems fault and the u.s. governemts and insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies.


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Synesthetic]
    #14170956 - 03/23/11 03:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Drugs cause very few long-term mental disorders...


They can exacerbate preexisting ones, though.


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Synesthetic]
    #14170957 - 03/23/11 03:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

yeah just quit being a pussy...it worked for me


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: DarkMatterOfFact]
    #14170973 - 03/23/11 03:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I try not to generalize about psychiatry, because I think it's capable of good things, but there are a lot of impure interests influencing US diagnostics and drug development.

I've always believed that health care should be a public service though, so I guess that makes me a communist or something.


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14170998 - 03/23/11 03:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:sheen: this is not winning.


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Poid]
    #14170999 - 03/23/11 03:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

True, but that's not causing the disorder.

A lot of things can exacerbate latent disorders.


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14171011 - 03/23/11 03:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I try not to generalize about psychiatry, because I think it's capable of good things, but there are a lot of impure interests influencing US diagnostics and drug development.

I've always believed that health care should be a public service though, so I guess that makes me a communist or something.


Least you dont think the systems we have now are adequate. You'd have to be one hateful and ignorant person these days to be proud the realities we live.


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Re: Did I overreact? [Re: Synesthetic]
    #14171178 - 03/23/11 04:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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A lot of things can exacerbate latent disorders.


Drugs more so than most others, though (generally speaking).


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