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How feasible would it be to introduce P. cubes to Southern KY?
#14166349 - 03/22/11 06:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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As far as I know the northernmost range of Psilocybe cubensis extends about to Mid Tennessee. If I were to take a 2 gallon sprayer full of spore water, and spray all the horse/cow manure patties on my grandfather's farm in Southern Kentucky, what are the chances of getting a strain that could survive Kentucky winters? Would they naturalize in the area?
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Toe_Jam
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Re: How feasible would it be to introduce P. cubes to Southern KY? [Re: Horticulture]
#14166360 - 03/22/11 06:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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You could definitely alter them geneticially to survive the freeze.
You could even alter them so they grow in winter. Or on potato chips.
Think about that... eh? eh?
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Re: How feasible would it be to introduce P. cubes to Southern KY? [Re: Toe_Jam]
#14166374 - 03/22/11 06:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Does anyone one know if this would be possible in Missouri as well?
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bakenast
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Re: How feasible would it be to introduce P. cubes to Southern KY? [Re: Horticulture]
#14166709 - 03/22/11 07:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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cubensis is a tropical fruit in a sense flordia texas etc with the exeptions of cyan etc.,as living in the midwest i can say you 'can make beds for cubies but i have only done it with colonized grain and used used PF cakes which both were successfull for one crop , but I only got one harvest in the fall they never came back the following year!! there like a plant there a annual here but in climate there use to there a perineal!
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Re: How feasible would it be to introduce P. cubes to Southern KY? [Re: bakenast]
#14166910 - 03/22/11 08:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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azures will grow in misseri and ky.
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Microppose
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Re: How feasible would it be to introduce P. cubes to Southern KY? [Re: Toe_Jam]
#14166957 - 03/22/11 09:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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E-in Liondragon said: You could definitely alter them geneticially to survive the freeze.
You could even alter them so they grow in winter. Or on potato chips.
Think about that... eh? eh?
That is the dumbest thing I've heard in the past 15 minutes. They DO survive in the winter. But they will not grow. Mushrooms need water to carry out growth through metabolism and mitosis, it's impossible to do these things when your water sources are frozen.
Edited by Microppose (03/22/11 09:05 PM)
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Re: How feasible would it be to introduce P. cubes to Southern KY? [Re: Microppose]
#14166985 - 03/22/11 09:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah. I think there are some pretty intense biological barriers to shrooms growing in the middle of winter. Like, it'd take some crazy genetic alteration to get that.
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Re: How feasible would it be to introduce P. cubes to Southern KY? [Re: Horticulture]
#14167843 - 03/23/11 12:22 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Similar questions have been asked many times. Magic mushrooms already grow everywhere that they can grow wild.
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Re: How feasible would it be to introduce P. cubes to Southern KY? [Re: Trippy_Smurf]
#14168105 - 03/23/11 01:36 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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No genetic alteration would cause any mushroom to flourish in freezing temperatures, period. HELLO, 90% H2O...
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andymc
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Re: How feasible would it be to introduce P. cubes to Southern KY? [Re: Microppose]
#14168487 - 03/23/11 05:40 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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This thread is sporting a lot of fail.
As mentioned, if cubes were well suited for your climate, nature would probably have beat you to it, in the last few million years or so. OTOH, perhaps you could isolate a cube culture that fruits well in colder temps. Doesn't seem all that likely to work in terms of 'introducing' them to the wild though. Perhaps a patch for a few months.
Azures are not a tropical species, so not really relevant to the question, except to demonstrate that mushroom mycelium certainly does survive winters, even with freezing. There are lots of cold-climate mushrooms.
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Re: How feasible would it be to introduce P. cubes to Southern KY? [Re: andymc]
#14168578 - 03/23/11 06:50 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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They would grow for the season you grew them outside but would not return by themselves after the winter.
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Re: How feasible would it be to introduce P. cubes to Southern KY? [Re: Microppose]
#14168611 - 03/23/11 07:12 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Azurascender said:
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E-in Liondragon said: You could definitely alter them geneticially to survive the freeze.
You could even alter them so they grow in winter. Or on potato chips.
Think about that... eh? eh?
That is the dumbest thing I've heard in the past 15 minutes. They DO survive in the winter. But they will not grow. Mushrooms need water to carry out growth through metabolism and mitosis, it's impossible to do these things when your water sources are frozen.
It was a joke buddy, take a deep breath.
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Re: How feasible would it be to introduce P. cubes to Southern KY? [Re: andymc]
#14169500 - 03/23/11 11:40 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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sounds like our man just wants a perrenial shroom patch in his neighborhood. azures would be better suited to his locale, ++++++ the potency.
just sayin.
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Re: How feasible would it be to introduce P. cubes to Southern KY? [Re: Toe_Jam]
#14169563 - 03/23/11 11:55 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
E-in Liondragon said:
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Azurascender said:
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E-in Liondragon said: You could definitely alter them geneticially to survive the freeze.
You could even alter them so they grow in winter. Or on potato chips.
Think about that... eh? eh?
That is the dumbest thing I've heard in the past 15 minutes. They DO survive in the winter. But they will not grow. Mushrooms need water to carry out growth through metabolism and mitosis, it's impossible to do these things when your water sources are frozen.
It was a joke buddy, take a deep breath.
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Re: How feasible would it be to introduce P. cubes to Southern KY? [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#14169700 - 03/23/11 12:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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i live in minnesota and the humidity here in the summer is like 90% all the time im pretty dam sure i could grow some outside
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Re: How feasible would it be to introduce P. cubes to Southern KY? [Re: darkhawk37]
#14170080 - 03/23/11 01:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well I can't say that I did this but there is a farm near my grandparents house in Northeast Oklahoma that was checked regularly for a few years and no cubes were found. Someone spread a lot of spores and such and now there are cubes growing all over the place when conditions are right. You might give it a shot if you have access to lots of spores. You might try doing it at different times throughout the year to give them different chances of getting established.
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