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Re: Moving Zeitgeist Foreward [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14166480 - 03/22/11 06:53 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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watching videos and thinking they are dispositive or even informative is for morons.




Eeeeh i'd have to say it's morons who think as above.

Videos are not but another form of media, The content of said media should be scrutinized as all forms of media should.

If videos are not dispositive, why are they admittable in court?

If someone kills someone and unedited CCTV footage clearly shows who killed them, according to Zappa, it's moronic to consider that evidence.

But of course, Zappa is smarter and mightier than law, courts, and rational scrutiny, we should all know that by now.

He makes his own reality and lives in his own imaginary godly palace of inscrutably and irrational media bias because he is God, and you are all morons.


I can't believe a 50+ year old man would say something so exuberantly juvenile and ignorant, you should be ashamed.


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Re: Moving Zeitgeist Foreward [Re: Icelander]
    #14166542 - 03/22/11 07:03 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Icelander said:
So you are saying that any evidence contained in a video is not reliable and only morons would watch a video and that's why you refuse to view them. (remember you just stated you watched some of that video) This would be equivalent to you stating that you are a moron along with those you are calling morons. I'm not calling you a moron. Name calling is your forte.  You are saying it, I'm just pointing out what you said.



Troll.  I said, "Thirdly watching videos and thinking they are dispositive or even informative is for morons."  I watched some of it to see what these idiots were endlessly going on about.


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Re: Moving Zeitgeist Foreward [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14166656 - 03/22/11 07:21 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Yet you refused to view a video presented as evidence in another thread.  You could have easily watched that very short video and then disputed it.

Hypocrite. :ass:


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Re: Moving Zeitgeist Foreward [Re: Shins]
    #14166660 - 03/22/11 07:22 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

> If someone kills someone and unedited CCTV footage clearly shows who killed them, according to Zappa, it's moronic to consider that evidence.

You guys are really out of touch with what he said.  Context is very important... he is talking about these cheesy youtube videos and crapumentaries such as the drivel Michael Moore pukes up, not about some convoluted example you dream up regarding courtrooms and security video.  Do you really expect to be taken seriously on other topics after you blatantly misrepresent something as trivial as this?


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Re: Moving Zeitgeist Foreward [Re: Seuss]
    #14166691 - 03/22/11 07:29 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

I don't have a problem with that.  He said he refuses to ever watch any video so get that straight. Written shit can be just as bogus.


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Re: Moving Zeitgeist Foreward [Re: Seuss]
    #14166744 - 03/22/11 07:49 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

> If someone kills someone and unedited CCTV footage clearly shows who killed them, according to Zappa, it's moronic to consider that evidence.

You guys are really out of touch with what he said.  Context is very important... he is talking about these cheesy youtube videos and crapumentaries such as the drivel Michael Moore pukes up, not about some convoluted example you dream up regarding courtrooms and security video.  Do you really expect to be taken seriously on other topics after you blatantly misrepresent something as trivial as this?





He said "watching videos and thinking they are dispositive or even informative is for morons. "  That statement denotes ALL videos.

How do you judge what videos are "cheesy youtube videos and crapumentaries such as the drivel Michael Moore pukes up" Even Michael Moore makes some valid points.  How do you judge that especially without even watching it?

"Do you really expect to be taken seriously on other topics after you blatantly misrepresent something as trivial as this?"

That's so fucking weak man, get over yourself.  Maybe Zappa should enunciate himself more clearly IF in fact you are right.  Even if you are right; see my above question.


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Re: Moving Zeitgeist Foreward [Re: Shins]
    #14167575 - 03/22/11 11:29 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Well Zappa is the clear asshole in this thread. Fact is all those cheesy youtube videos like michael moore and so on are annoying because they always sound like the wolrd has changed when you watched them, it is a psychological bullshit that they play in in order to sell you money. this is what zappa doesn't like. however this is how you bring ideas forward, people like zappa got us into wars and held us back for centuries, but then again he might be the only reason im here.

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Re: Moving Zeitgeist Foreward [Re: Icelander]
    #14168398 - 03/23/11 04:25 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

> I don't have a problem with that.  He said he refuses to ever watch any video so get that straight

In the context of a post with a youtube video.  Context is important.


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Re: Moving Zeitgeist Foreward [Re: Seuss]
    #14168536 - 03/23/11 06:13 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

So? The video he refused to view was spoken quotes with sources and that is all.  And he knew it because we told him several times. Get it straight.


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Re: Moving Zeitgeist Foreward [Re: Icelander]
    #14168663 - 03/23/11 07:54 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)


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Re: Moving Zeitgeist Foreward [Re: Seanfu]
    #14168798 - 03/23/11 07:54 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

This thread has been closed.

Reason:
Since no one has bothered to describe even one single argument presented in the video, there is clearly not much to discuss. The name of this forum is....






....wait for it.....







Political Discussion










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