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Moving Zeitgeist Foreward
#14164272 - 03/22/11 12:08 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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This is a 2 and a half plus hour film discussing economics and false value systems. I watched it last night and wanted to share. Post your thoughts if any of you get through it.
Zeitgeist full youtube
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Re: Moving Zeitgeist Foreward [Re: Seanfu]
#14164281 - 03/22/11 12:10 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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I believe this system will absolutely have to change, if that needs to be said at all. I think renewable energy would be practical to implement.
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Re: Moving Zeitgeist Foreward [Re: Seanfu] 2
#14164324 - 03/22/11 12:19 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Zeitgeist is by assholes for assholes
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Re: Moving Zeitgeist Foreward [Re: zappaisgod]
#14164380 - 03/22/11 12:31 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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How would you know exactly? You claim to never watch videos. Can you speak to the claims made in the video?
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Re: Moving Zeitgeist Foreward [Re: Icelander]
#14164387 - 03/22/11 12:32 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Icelander said: How would you know exactly? You claim to never watch videos. Can you speak to the claims made in the video?
I've watched it and he's right.
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Re: Moving Zeitgeist Foreward [Re: Icelander]
#14164398 - 03/22/11 12:33 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Icelander said: How would you know exactly? You claim to never watch videos. Can you speak to the claims made in the video?
I saw enough of it, troll. This thread needs the lock.
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Re: Moving Zeitgeist Foreward [Re: zappaisgod]
#14164408 - 03/22/11 12:35 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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If anyone questions your integrity you call troll. You claimed never to watch vids and now you say you do. Which is it?
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Re: Moving Zeitgeist Foreward [Re: ChuangTzu]
#14164416 - 03/22/11 12:37 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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ChuangTzu said:
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Icelander said: How would you know exactly? You claim to never watch videos. Can you speak to the claims made in the video?
I've watched it and he's right.
I'd likely agree. Just not with someone who never watched it.
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Re: Moving Zeitgeist Foreward [Re: Icelander]
#14164437 - 03/22/11 12:40 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Icelander said: If anyone questions your integrity you call troll. You claimed never to watch vids and now you say you do. Which is it?
Bullshit. I almost never call anyone a troll but you seem to be trolling lately. I said I saw enough of it. I also read some articles about it. Did anyone even question my integrity, troll?
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Re: Moving Zeitgeist Foreward [Re: zappaisgod]
#14164468 - 03/22/11 12:48 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Zeitgeist is by assholes for assholes
Why is doubting an expansion debt based system that seems to have collapsed made by assholes for assholes?
Renewable energy bad?
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Re: Moving Zeitgeist Foreward [Re: ChuangTzu]
#14164473 - 03/22/11 12:50 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Icelander said: How would you know exactly? You claim to never watch videos. Can you speak to the claims made in the video?
I've watched it and he's right.
Same question to you.
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Re: Moving Zeitgeist Foreward [Re: Seanfu]
#14164500 - 03/22/11 12:55 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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This is a 2 and a half plus hour film discussing economics and false value systems. I watched it last night and wanted to share.
I suggest you "share" by listing the major points made by the authors with which you agree, and perhaps give a reason or two for each one explaining why you agree.
No one is going to watch a two and a half hour video - especially one from as sketchy a bunch as the loons who produced the original "Zeitgeist" - without some kind of summary or movie review.
Life's way too short for that.
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Re: Moving Zeitgeist Foreward [Re: Seanfu]
#14164518 - 03/22/11 01:00 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Seanfu said:
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zappaisgod said: Zeitgeist is by assholes for assholes
Why is doubting an expansion debt based system that seems to have collapsed made by assholes for assholes?
It hasn't collapsed.Quote:
Renewable energy bad?
Renewable energy, as most conceive it, is a pipe dream for idiots. The only hope is fusion. All else is mental masturbation.
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Re: Moving Zeitgeist Foreward [Re: zappaisgod]
#14166125 - 03/22/11 05:54 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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There's some bits of truth in it, but i think it might be a two faced kind of thing.
The venus (Lucifer) project is pretty much an NWO's dream come true. It's so freeking flawed and socialist; it's almost like they reel you in with bits of truth then get you to sign up for some kind of wacky luciferian communist utopia.
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Re: Moving Zeitgeist Foreward [Re: Shins]
#14166149 - 03/22/11 05:56 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Here's an interesting Debate between a free market anarco-capitalist VS. the Venus project - 2 hours long.
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Podcast: http://www.fdrurl.com/FDR1847 - Stefan Molyneux, host of Freedomain Radio, engages the Venus Project in a passionate debate about the future of the world - http://www.freedomainradio.com
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Re: Moving Zeitgeist Foreward [Re: Shins]
#14166213 - 03/22/11 06:07 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Nobody is going to watch that.
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Re: Moving Zeitgeist Foreward [Re: zappaisgod]
#14166223 - 03/22/11 06:09 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Icelander said: If anyone questions your integrity you call troll. You claimed never to watch vids and now you say you do. Which is it?
Bullshit. I almost never call anyone a troll but you seem to be trolling lately. I said I saw enough of it. I also read some articles about it. Did anyone even question my integrity, troll?
I question your integrity due to you stating in another thread that you never watch videos and doing so is for morons. (this justified your refusal to view a video as evidence) You either mean what you say or you don't. If you don't there's a lack of integrity.
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Re: Moving Zeitgeist Foreward [Re: ChuangTzu]
#14166255 - 03/22/11 06:14 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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ChuangTzu said: Nobody is going to watch that.
Well it's there in case you're wrong.
It's basically free market price mechanism VS. Venus project communist super computer.
Conclusion; no Venus super computer or central authority is as efficient as the price mechanism for connecting supply/demand.
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Re: Moving Zeitgeist Foreward [Re: Icelander]
#14166381 - 03/22/11 06:40 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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Icelander said:
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zappaisgod said:
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Icelander said: If anyone questions your integrity you call troll. You claimed never to watch vids and now you say you do. Which is it?
Bullshit. I almost never call anyone a troll but you seem to be trolling lately. I said I saw enough of it. I also read some articles about it. Did anyone even question my integrity, troll?
I question your integrity due to you stating in another thread that you never watch videos and doing so is for morons. (this justified your refusal to view a video as evidence) You either mean what you say or you don't. If you don't there's a lack of integrity.
Firstly, this piece of shit has been all over the place. Secondly I already stated in this thread that I have seen some of that craptastic idiocy. Thirdly watching videos and thinking they are dispositive or even informative is for morons.
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Re: Moving Zeitgeist Foreward [Re: zappaisgod]
#14166476 - 03/22/11 06:53 PM (13 years, 1 month ago) |
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So you are saying that any evidence contained in a video is not reliable and only morons would watch a video and that's why you refuse to view them. (remember you just stated you watched some of that video) This would be equivalent to you stating that you are a moron along with those you are calling morons. I'm not calling you a moron. Name calling is your forte. You are saying it, I'm just pointing out what you said.
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