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What happened to 'rolling'
    #14161716 - 03/21/11 09:53 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Is it me or has ecstacy/mdma changed over the past 10 years?  I remember in early 2000 when my friends and I would roll, we would actually ROLL... Like, our eyes would roll back and we'd get those e dreams where you're awake but dreaming of other shit for a few seconds.  That doesn't seem to happen anymore, even though I generally take higher doses than I did then.  I also remember feeling a much greater sense of euphoria and love for the world which seems to be mostly absent these days.  Some may call it 'losing the magic' and claim it to be a tolerance issue but I dunno... shit just seems different these days and I have taken multi-year breaks from MDMA and analogues with no noticeable difference.  Am I alone?  Does anyone still experience this stuff?

I will say that back in the day I was mostly taking pressed tabs which could have had anything in them and now days I mostly take pure MDMA... But considering MDMA is the primary chem for e and e is known for causing the 'rolling' effect, I would assume MDMA would cause the roll as well... Am I wrong?

Ahh... I wish I still had some of those pills around :smile:


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Re: What happened to 'rolling' [Re: iFung]
    #14161734 - 03/21/11 09:56 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

ya fuck :frown: E is getting preety disapointing for me, i just did it for my first time in over a year 3 - yellow pumas) and i just felt slight love for everyting and it overall let me down, think it was just bunk so im looing into geting some mephedrone :laugh:

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Re: What happened to 'rolling' [Re: harrisonbrtn]
    #14161757 - 03/21/11 10:02 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

idk whats in your pills..  i rolled maybe a year back and my jaw was sore and i had bloody lips for a few days after..  i swear that shit fucks your brain up..  it feels tooo good..  i remember when i went outside it was sunny and nice but it looked foggy..  we used to have blue dolphins, purple incredibles, pink bics, red bics..  last time was purple playboy bunnys..  they were awesome!  you ever get any of those?


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Re: What happened to 'rolling' [Re: iFung]
    #14161791 - 03/21/11 10:06 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

The amount of MDMA in most tested pills has definitely decreased over the years. http://www.ecstasydata.org/stats.php

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Re: What happened to 'rolling' [Re: wow]
    #14161795 - 03/21/11 10:06 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

yes i know what you mean, i had the same thing a year ago, 3 blue dolphines, i was chewing a plastic bottle cap and cut up my cheks, could barly talk for a week did alot of crazy shit.. rolling hard,
but my recent ones were really crappy compared

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Re: What happened to 'rolling' [Re: harrisonbrtn]
    #14161946 - 03/21/11 10:33 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I am by no means saying I am not getting fucked up... And yes, I chew my face off frequently still... However, the positive effects that I used to love the drug for have mostly fallen away.  I used to take 1 pill and for 8+ hours feel soooooo good and love everyone and have slight psychedelic effects in the form of rolling-eye dreams.  Now I feel -kinda- good for 3 hours, then I usually have to redose to keep feeling good and end up chewing my own face by the end of the night and feeling like complete ass the next day.  I dunno, I think I gotta figure out how to make it better or just give it up.


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Re: What happened to 'rolling' [Re: iFung]
    #14161976 - 03/21/11 10:38 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I'll never forget the blue dolphins I had 5+ years ago. 2 of those had me in the Shulgin "god consciousness" realm while I smoked absurd amounts of good bud. Never been that blissed out. It honestly is depressing to even think about how much better it is to feel that way then any other time in life pretty much, could never be that good again. You gotta cherish it...


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Re: What happened to 'rolling' [Re: PsilocybinMike]
    #14162005 - 03/21/11 10:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Blue dolphins were my first pressed pills and I loved them. They were the only good rolls I've had.


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Re: What happened to 'rolling' [Re: Divinity]
    #14162214 - 03/21/11 11:24 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Blue dolphins were da shit!


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Re: What happened to 'rolling' [Re: Hitsuzen]
    #14162800 - 03/22/11 01:39 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

do you think molly would be as good as those blue dolphins? or is most molly bunk these days to?

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Re: What happened to 'rolling' [Re: harrisonbrtn]
    #14162902 - 03/22/11 02:23 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

from what I've gathered, there's been a lot more piperazine/BZP/whatever-laced pills and such going around throughout the past ten years or so... this might answer your question a bit.

there are a lot more impurities in pills these days, and you'd need a good 100mg or so of actual MDMA to 'roll' so idk, I'd say as a whole it's hard to get a dose like that.

I suppose it's really all about how you truly enjoy it though, 'rolling' itself seems to be a different idea for everyone, at least in some way.


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Re: What happened to 'rolling' [Re: sadoldog]
    #14163257 - 03/22/11 06:11 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Seriously just use MDMA powder and NOT E.
:smile:


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Re: What happened to 'rolling' [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #14163977 - 03/22/11 11:06 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

considering MDMA causes microscopic physical damage to your brain
perhaps after a certain point you run out of dendrites to plough over
MDMA is a weird thing... my first times felt like true euphoria, but the feeling gets old, somehow... and i've only been rolling for half a year.


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Re: What happened to 'rolling' [Re: gabbaganchi]
    #14163994 - 03/22/11 11:08 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

gabbaganchi said:
considering MDMA causes microscopic physical damage to your brain
perhaps after a certain point you run out of dendrites to plough over
MDMA is a weird thing... my first times felt like true euphoria, but the feeling gets old, somehow... and i've only been rolling for half a year.




It causes microscopic physical damage to your brain?
Really?
How about you back up your claims with some proof, and not that flawed study that states about the holes in the brain that has been disproved countless times as fraudulent.

Nothing is as good as your first roll but that isn't because it damages a part of your brain - its because you didn't know anything could ever feel that good and perfect. Once you have done it once you know what its like, you have already experienced it. The first time on anything is always the most amazing, psychedelics included.

I have been rolling for years and the magic is not gone at all. I roll anywhere from once a month to twice a month, but never more than that because I like to keep it special.


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Re: What happened to 'rolling' [Re: Hitsuzen]
    #14164040 - 03/22/11 11:17 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Divinity said:
Blue dolphins were my first pressed pills and I loved them. They were the only good rolls I've had.




mine too.

Quote:

DrGonz0 said:
Blue dolphins were da shit!




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Re: What happened to 'rolling' [Re: astrolope]
    #14164132 - 03/22/11 11:35 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

If you were rolling for more than 4-6 hours your pills had something else in em, probably meth.  I know people that like meth in their molly, without it it it doesnt have that "Edge" to it.  This may be the case as you claim to be eating pure MDMA now instead of pressies that usually have meth or piperazines in em.  Maybe throw some tweak in with you your MDMA, see if you get the gurn back hahaha. 
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Re: What happened to 'rolling' [Re: mattritt]
    #14164222 - 03/22/11 11:59 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

i think thats just a "mith" that there is meth in some pills, because go look up pill reports and u will find that that is bull.
one time someone took a pill that they thought was x but was just pure pressed meth and i think thats where the mith started from.
plus when u see a pill that looks like it has diffrent colors in it, white spots or blue and shit , thats just food coloring

fuck dont know how to spell mith :****(

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Re: What happened to 'rolling' [Re: harrisonbrtn]
    #14164348 - 03/22/11 12:25 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Back in the early 90's when the rave scene really started to take off in the Midwest MDMA was very pure and quite abundant compared to the crap that's being passed off these days, molly & so-on. I remember half dollar sized disco biscuits in 93 that were so potent It changed people's life's!!  That's the only true & real way I can describe it. LOL!!


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Re: What happened to 'rolling' [Re: harrisonbrtn]
    #14164393 - 03/22/11 12:33 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

There's been some good ones going around. I know what u guys mean thou. U can't roll like u used to. However I took 5 of these yellow mcdonalds and was catastrophically out of my mind. Mad visuals and hallucinations. Gradually came back to reality several hours later. If u come across some, buy as many as u can. You'll have a good roll ^-^


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Re: What happened to 'rolling' [Re: Ogla]
    #14164405 - 03/22/11 12:34 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Why don't you guys use pure molly instead of fucking around with E pills?
You might find you can roll again.
I would never put an E pill in my body - you have no clue whats inside of them, and anyone can rip off a well known design.


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